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Joe C. 05-01-2020 08:01 AM

Can I wear a Halloween mask???:1rotfl:

jcletus 05-01-2020 08:04 AM

The rec news covers the recreation centers and sports and activities conducted there, not golf.

Gizemo33 05-01-2020 08:09 AM

There is a reason that the coronavirus has not been contact traced to golfing. That reason is very simple. The amount of testing that's been done down here is ridiculously low. Therefore if you do not test you don't know who has it. In addition the state of Florida does not have the infrastructure to do what is necessary and that would be when a positive case has been determined, they should do contact tracing. Contact tracing is not done I repeat is not done. So I would strongly suggest that the golfers stop with this holier than thou attitude and be aware that you can get it playing golf. I hope you don't get it but you do increase the possibility of getting it by not wearing a mask. In addition a mask prevents you, if you are asymptomatic, from giving it to someone else.

Jazzman 05-01-2020 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pam.moores (Post 1756171)
I seen in the recreation news today that all indoor and outdoor activities are required to wear face masks. I wonder how the golfers are going to handle that?

There is no directive that wearing a mask is mandatory. The directive is that if you are in an environment where you cannot adhere to the social distancing guidelines, the wearing of a mask is encouraged. That is a federal health directive.

Jazzman 05-01-2020 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizemo33 (Post 1756700)
There is a reason that the coronavirus has not been contact traced to golfing. That reason is very simple. The amount of testing that's been done down here is ridiculously low. Therefore if you do not test you don't know who has it. In addition the state of Florida does not have the infrastructure to do what is necessary and that would be when a positive case has been determined, they should do contact tracing. Contact tracing is not done I repeat is not done. So I would strongly suggest that the golfers stop with this holier than thou attitude and be aware that you can get it playing golf. I hope you don't get it but you do increase the possibility of getting it by not wearing a mask. In addition a mask prevents you, if you are asymptomatic, from giving it to someone else.

So in other words, we should all stay at home until a validated vaccine is produced and everyone in the state of Florida, everyone in the Us and for that matter everyone in the world receives the vaccine.

mtlee024 05-01-2020 08:27 AM

No Mask on the Golf Courses
 
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Originally Posted by pam.moores (Post 1756171)
I seen in the recreation news today that all indoor and outdoor activities are required to wear face masks. I wonder how the golfers are going to handle that?

The Golf courses are not managed by the recreation department. Therefore the mask rule does not apply. Take the CDD course to learn how TV is run and managed.

mtlee024 05-01-2020 08:37 AM

You can get it doing anything and anywhere. So don't pick on golf. Your chance of getting it in a grocery store are 10 time greater. Only an n95 mask will keep you are anyone else completely safe. Get off your hing horse and enjoy what yoou can and be joyfull for what others have.

theruizs 05-01-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pam.moores (Post 1756171)
I seen in the recreation news today that all indoor and outdoor activities are required to wear face masks. I wonder how the golfers are going to handle that?

Golfers have a special immunity. That’s why after they ride to the tee in separate carts they can then get out and huddle almost shoulder to shoulder and talk, and with no masks. We live on a course and we see it all the time, not everyone does it but a lot do. But we have not seen any of them wearing masks.

OhioBuckeye 05-01-2020 09:20 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1756174)
No need to as long as you walk or ride in separate carts. Its been that way. No one can trace spreading CV to golfing. The most concentrated outbreaks have been is nursing homes, assisted living and prisons. None of thos have golf that I know of.

You're right, Rec centers there's not much air moving & you really can't help being so close to people. On golf courses, lots of air moving & they say the sun helps kill the virus, plus you're not standing right nexted to anyone unless you choose to or you choose to touch other people . So a mask might not be worth wearing on golf course. Just be careful, we all know this is just a Phase 1. I think TV shouldn't be charging an HOA fee because a lot of people don't play golf. Yes, I know you can't just charge golfers a HOA fee & not anyone else. But you would think TV would discounted it for a while.

billethkid 05-01-2020 09:45 AM

Common sense VS one size fits all rules.

There is a difference when indoors or outside.

Mask wearing has been stated to be a "good thing" to do.....not ordered.....not mandated.

Most guidelines state that where social distancing cannot be maintained then one "should" wear a mask.

Common sense required for masking (or not) and needed as well for those who would be self appointed mask police and judges.

tthdr 05-01-2020 10:34 AM

I do not believe that was how the article was stated. It was referring to in and out of the recreation areas and all activities in the rec areas. It was referring to them since they will be opening next week.

Katieburr 05-01-2020 11:26 AM

My husband and I ordered face masks on-line a month and a half ago. When I check the tracking it continues to say “Pending.” We have waited long enough. Do you or anyone you know in The Villages make quality face masks? We will pay for them and cover the cost of mailing as well. Thank you so much!

coffeebean 05-01-2020 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wamley (Post 1756669)
Unless their cohabitants.

Who are you responding to? PLEASE quote the person you are responding to. We are not mind readers on this forum. Click on REPLY WITH QUOTE when responding to a specific comment. Thanks.

singnsmile 05-01-2020 01:52 PM

Face masks for golfers
 
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1756326)
Don’t apply to golfers, the are special.

The guidelines that are being set up for opening rec centers and pools, dog parks, etc (all those that had previously been closed would not include those activities, businesses, etc that have not been closed down. Not sure how masks are going to be used in pools to begin with as not water proof and just not logical. Rec centers are only being opened up for those who want to get together and play cards/mahjonng/etc who bring their own equipment. No equipment nor organized clubs will be in effect at this time i.e. no Euchre club, bingo, bridge, etc will be active...just if you want to get your foursome together to play at a rec center and bring your own equipment. Golf takes a minimum of 1 1/2 hours to play to a maximum of 4 hours to play outside in the heat and at more then a 6 ft distance from each other. No masks are necessary unless you choose. For me I would think one would feel sick, dizzy, etc if having to have to wear a mask outside in the heat at all times during this. Your oxygen levels are definitely affected. Whatever you choose to do, please be safe and keep the tempers in check as those who are in charge to keep the pools, rec centers and dog parks open to keep you at 6 ft and following the guidelines set forth are only doing their jobs so that they CAN ALL STAY OPEN. Stay healthy.

Marty94 05-01-2020 01:54 PM

Adherence and enforcement
 
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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1756409)
Pretty sure that "all outdoor activities" refers only to those under the purview of Parks and Recs. The only thing that they control that I use is the fitness center and that will not reopen under Phase II.

Golf has stayed opened throughout without mandatory wearing of masks. If a new sign appears at the sign in desk that says masks are now mandatory to play, I’m guessing golfers will adhere or be subject to an Ambassador ejecting them from the course. If the pool tells me I must wear a mask, there are plenty of companies now making them out of swimsuit material, I’ll do that too and instead of swimming laps, I’ll use a kickboard. Adjust, adapt and overcome. I have no problem adhering to rules if it allows me to get out in the fresh air and use facilities that I don’t own. It’s a privilege, not an entitlement.

In today’s environment, I personally am taking precautions to protect others. I wear both a face mask and gloves, social distance and shop only when necessary. I try to minimize risk to myself and others. It’s the same reason I buckle my seatbelt even in the backseat as a passenger. It’s not just for my safety but for everyone else in the car. During this time, we are all on this car ride and we are all precious cargo. It’s up to everyone to act responsibly in the interests of society as a whole. Adhere to the rules. Cooperate and graduate.

Rosie1950 05-01-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Russp (Post 1756553)
Come on people why so mean ? With this logic then tell my how are you going to swim laps with a mask on

You can only do back strokes.

Rosie1950 05-01-2020 02:59 PM

The pics of the tables in the Rec Centers said the rooms will be PRE SET UP and u can’t change the seating or the oblong tables, with ONE person sitting in the middle. Just me but that doesn’t look conducive to playing cards. How does one go about bringing their own cards when you DON’T play cards by ur self? I don’t think cards are in the cards quite yet. Just my thinking is all.

NavyNJ 05-01-2020 03:06 PM

Seems there IS contact tracing in Fla. after all......
 
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Originally Posted by Gizemo33 (Post 1756700)
There is a reason that the coronavirus has not been contact traced to golfing. That reason is very simple. The amount of testing that's been done down here is ridiculously low. Therefore if you do not test you don't know who has it. In addition the state of Florida does not have the infrastructure to do what is necessary and that would be when a positive case has been determined, they should do contact tracing. Contact tracing is not done I repeat is not done. So I would strongly suggest that the golfers stop with this holier than thou attitude and be aware that you can get it playing golf. I hope you don't get it but you do increase the possibility of getting it by not wearing a mask. In addition a mask prevents you, if you are asymptomatic, from giving it to someone else.

Article at this link seems to run counter to your info....maybe yours is just a bit older and out of date??

After Beefing Up Workforce, Health Department to Monitor Florida’s Reopening – NBC 6 South Florida

Bdame 05-01-2020 03:29 PM

I think you have to wear a mask if you can t stay 6ft apart

Spike380 05-01-2020 03:53 PM

guys we are all on a learning curve and it's fun reading how creative your ideas all are, but in reality-it's to keep us safe. period. We are not invincible and CAN get sick if people are careless. Think-the more we do things right, the quicker this mess is over.

yankygrl 05-01-2020 09:10 PM

Per CDC guidelines, no activity that can be considered exercise needs to have a mask worn, whether it be inside or out. Golf is considered exercise.

coffeebean 05-01-2020 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by yankygrl (Post 1757117)
Per CDC guidelines, no activity that can be considered exercise needs to have a mask worn, whether it be inside or out. Golf is considered exercise.

If this is true, then when the fitness centers open, we will not be required to wear masks when we work out. Right?

joseppe 05-01-2020 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1756174)
No need to as long as you walk or ride in separate carts. Its been that way. No one can trace spreading CV to golfing. The most concentrated outbreaks have been is nursing homes, assisted living and prisons. None of thos have golf that I know of.

I don't think anyone can TRACE spreading CV to pickleball, Swimming, bocce', fitness centers, Archery or many other activities. I believe its purely conjecture that it COULD be transmitted.

Travelhunter 05-02-2020 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizemo33 (Post 1756700)
There is a reason that the coronavirus has not been contact traced to golfing. That reason is very simple. The amount of testing that's been done down here is ridiculously low. Therefore if you do not test you don't know who has it. In addition the state of Florida does not have the infrastructure to do what is necessary and that would be when a positive case has been determined, they should do contact tracing. Contact tracing is not done I repeat is not done. So I would strongly suggest that the golfers stop with this holier than thou attitude and be aware that you can get it playing golf. I hope you don't get it but you do increase the possibility of getting it by not wearing a mask. In addition a mask prevents you, if you are asymptomatic, from giving it to someone else.

Well said

Travelhunter 05-02-2020 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mtlee024 (Post 1756715)
The Golf courses are not managed by the recreation department. Therefore the mask rule does not apply. Take the CDD course to learn how TV is run and managed.

The mask rule does apply for those that wish to be safe and respectful of others

ChicagoNative 05-02-2020 06:54 AM

Wearing a cloth mask or bandana when unable to maintain distance is better than nothing, but not much. Take a peek at a British mEdical Journal study that shows that a cloth mask filters out only 3% of any particles in the air.

A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers


And more....

Cloth masks offer very little protection against coronavirus

Do your homework. Vet your sources and double/triple check your info. Don’t take advice from those who are pushing a political agenda, or got their medical degrees from University of Facebook or Twitter State. Don’t be lulled into a false sense of security just because you or someone else has a bandana on their face.

That said, yeah, I’ll wear one to the grocery store, or if I ever get on the el or bus again where maintaining distance doesn’t always happen.

Being outdoors is another story. There is ample opportunity to provide a wide berth to others. If I go out for a hike, I’m not going to wear a mask. No amount of cancel culture tactics will change that. If anyone’s immune system is so compromised, or they are so paranoid, or so afraid, then, with all due respect, they should be the ones who keep their asses in the house.

Barborv 05-02-2020 03:12 PM

I think that wearing mask should have been mandated from the get go. Why are people so opposed. It's for everyone's safety and to help dissipate the virus. What's wrong with everyone! And for the ones who cannot wear one because of health issues, well, I wouldn't step foot out the door in public anyway! I'm in NY and I don't have health issues and I haven't been out in public since March 13. Fortunately, my husband goes once a week to the supermarket and that's it. And we're still sane! The sooner people are responsible the quicker things can have a chance to get back to normal. It's not that terrible to stay home, with your cable and internet etc. Think back in history what kind of things people had to endure to survive. People hiding in attics for months just to not be found by the nazis or being in a contraction camp or our young men be drafted right out of High school to fight a war in Viet nam or all the other wars. Be patient my friends. Things will eventually return to normal.

retiredguy123 05-02-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Barborv (Post 1757622)
I think that wearing mask should have been mandated from the get go. Why are people so opposed. It's for everyone's safety and to help dissipate the virus. What's wrong with everyone! And for the ones who cannot wear one because of health issues, well, I wouldn't step foot out the door in public anyway! I'm in NY and I don't have health issues and I haven't been out in public since March 13. Fortunately, my husband goes once a week to the supermarket and that's it. And we're still sane! The sooner people are responsible the quicker things can have a chance to get back to normal. It's not that terrible to stay home, with your cable and internet etc. Think back in history what kind of things people had to endure to survive. People hiding in attics for months just to not be found by the nazis or being in a contraction camp or our young men be drafted right out of High school to fight a war in Viet nam or all the other wars. Be patient my friends. Things will eventually return to normal.

I agree about the masks, and I thought that from the beginning. But, I believe that the "experts" lied to the public to prevent a shortage of masks for the health care workers. Just my opinion.

Bowtorc 05-02-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Poole (Post 1756677)
You only have to have them when on recreation center property not private property so read it all before you post something stupid

pretty harsh answer!!

eyc234 05-02-2020 09:14 PM

We have some really cooool clown mask and masquerade mask do those count? :coolsmiley::coolsmiley:

Schneil 05-03-2020 12:03 AM

If breathing is restricted so much that they can't wear a mask, they fall into the at risk group that should stay at home. I am in the group and gladly stays at home, my life is more important than arguing over who should/should not wear a mask. I hope your's is too!!

Schneil 05-03-2020 12:13 AM

Excellent point, I have been wearing a mask on the rare occasion in public since the middle of January when this surfaced. It really skyrocketed after the Chinese New Year celebration. It didn't take much common sense to realize we were dealing with something NO ONE has experienced before. They are still learning about this virus as it mutates and spreads. Please protect your safety and your friends/family: keep at least 6' distance and wear a mask in public places.

Bay Kid 05-04-2020 06:49 AM

Do you sneeze into the mask, or remove the mask?

WhiteToast 05-04-2020 07:17 AM

The sign says ALL activities. Why can’t you old people follow the rules? What’s the deal with the constant complaining? It’s temporary. It’s to protect your neighbor. <shaking my head>

coffeebean 05-04-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1758461)
Do you sneeze into the mask, or remove the mask?

Of course, keep your mask on. Sneeze into your mask to keep your droplets from spewing into the air.

golfing eagles 05-04-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteToast (Post 1758492)
The sign says ALL activities. Why can’t you old people follow the rules? What’s the deal with the constant complaining? It’s temporary. It’s to protect your neighbor. <shaking my head>

Please think it out. The CDC guideline is to wear a mask when you cannot maintain social distancing. Do you really think, that at the height of the restrictions in April, you did not have to wear a mask to walk, cycle, ride in a cart or golf, BUT NOW, in phase one of easing restrictions you do??? Nonsense, they need to rephrase the statement about masks.

graciegirl 05-04-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneil (Post 1757811)
Excellent point, I have been wearing a mask on the rare occasion in public since the middle of January when this surfaced. It really skyrocketed after the Chinese New Year celebration. It didn't take much common sense to realize we were dealing with something NO ONE has experienced before. They are still learning about this virus as it mutates and spreads. Please protect your safety and your friends/family: keep at least 6' distance and wear a mask in public places.

Well said.

Of course you can get it from any activity where the virus is airborne or from contact with something that was recently touched by someone who has the virus. Many have NO symptoms. Here is another article that just floated up on my computers MSN feed;

'60 Minutes' correspondent Stahl says she fought coronavirus


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