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LuvtheVillages 04-04-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1638822)
Exactly this. I think someone up-thread posted tongue in cheek about closing one of the executive courses up north, and turning it into a putting course. Though it might have been sarcastic, I think it's a good seed for a good idea. Maybe not close an exec. But find room to create a putting course up north. Somewhere on the northern end of the space between 466A and 466, which would be "centrally located" for anyone who is north of 44A.

This would certainly alleviate a lot of the parking issues on the streets of Fenney, because most car drivers would have a convenient second option and possibly even closer to their own homes.


I love the idea of building a new Putt and Play in this area, even if it means losing or modifying one of the executive courses.

However, this area is not managed by the Developer. The amenities here were sold to the Sumter Landing CDD, and is now under their jurisdiction, with input from Project Wide. So, to make this happen, someone needs to petition the Project Wide Committee.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-04-2019 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages (Post 1638893)
I love the idea of building a new Putt and Play in this area, even if it means losing or modifying one of the executive courses.

However, this area is not managed by the Developer. The amenities here were sold to the Sumter Landing CDD, and is now under their jurisdiction, with input from Project Wide. So, to make this happen, someone needs to petition the Project Wide Committee.

I'm not a golfer, and don't live in that CDD (or even in Sumter County). But if enough people like the idea who DO golf, and live in that CDD, they could perhaps get together and discuss it at a Rec center meeting.

Goldwingnut 04-04-2019 06:55 PM

For those thinking of asking for another PnP be built north of 44 the below statement applies from your deed restrictions.
"Article III... Each Owner agrees that as additional facilities are requested by the Owner(s) of Homesites and the erection of such additional facilities is agreed to by the Declarant, that upon a vote of one half (1/2) of the owners requesting such additional facilities and the commencement of charges therefor, to monthly Contractual Amenities Fee provided for in this section shall be increased accordingly without the limitations set forth herein. For the purpose of all votes the Declarant shall be entitled to one (1) vote for each Homesite owned by the Declarant. The monthly charges shall be paid to the Declarant or its designate each month to insure the provision of the services being paid for. ..."

Translation, if you want something new and >50% of the homeowners agree to it then the amenities fees are raised to cover the cost of building and operating it. AKA - Nothing is free.

In light of all the flap and whine over the deferral rate and people being told that the amenities rates are going to go up, at the rate they previously agreed to, just to balance the budget, the chance of raising it more to build this or anything else new are probably zero.

CWGUY 04-04-2019 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1638910)
I'm not a golfer, and don't live in that CDD (or even in Sumter County). But if enough people like the idea who DO golf, and live in that CDD, they could perhaps get together and discuss it at a Rec center meeting.

:read: https://www.districtgov.org/images/F...d-Approved.pdf

Here's where you would start...... :ho:

ColdNoMore 04-04-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1638936)
For those thinking of asking for another PnP be built north of 44 the below statement applies from your deed restrictions.
"Article III... Each Owner agrees that as additional facilities are requested by the Owner(s) of Homesites and the erection of such additional facilities is agreed to by the Declarant, that upon a vote of one half (1/2) of the owners requesting such additional facilities and the commencement of charges therefor, to monthly Contractual Amenities Fee provided for in this section shall be increased accordingly without the limitations set forth herein. For the purpose of all votes the Declarant shall be entitled to one (1) vote for each Homesite owned by the Declarant. The monthly charges shall be paid to the Declarant or its designate each month to insure the provision of the services being paid for. ..."

Translation, if you want something new and >50% of the homeowners agree to it then the amenities fees are raised to cover the cost of building and operating it. AKA - Nothing is free.

In light of all the flap and whine over the deferral rate and people being told that the amenities rates are going to go up, at the rate they previously agreed to, just to balance the budget, the chance of raising it more to build this or anything else new are probably zero.

The cost of which, could of course be partially offset by my suggestion of converting a current exec that's in really bad shape...and may need a complete restoration/closing right now anyway.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-04-2019 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1638943)
The cost of which, could of course be partially offset by my suggestion of converting a current exec that's in really bad shape...and may need a complete restoration/closing right now anyway.

All the money that goes into maintaining an executive course, could be re-channeled into the creation of a putt-n-play. It'd cost less to maintain since it'd be smaller overall. You could even convert some of the property into other types of golf-related experiences. Maybe if there is an exec in bad condition, close to a family pool, you could have a putt-n-play AND a miniature golf course (I'd actually enjoy that, being a total non-golfer gamer geek).

sallybowron 04-04-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1638046)
If you really have to ask that question then you are lucky to not be one of us folks that either have or need knee/hip replacements (or both) who each day only have a limited number of steps in our achey joints. A lack of availability of adequate parking shouldn't be a reason for keeping us from using the amities that we pay for each and every month.

Agreed. The people that are acting like this is no big problem are obviously not handicapped. I know there is at least one person who is critical of many posts. I thought this was a page where people could add their opinion without criticism. If people don't have anything nice to say...don't say anything. If you can't do this join a different forum.:boxing2:

sallybowron 04-04-2019 08:54 PM

Good info
 
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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1638229)
If you park at the Fenney Rec. Center you can go in and get a putter to use then ask for a ride to the course via one of their golf cars and get picked up when ready, they announced this months ago when people were complaining. If you are fit and able to walk the 1/4 mile you shouldn't use this option but if you are unable to walk it this is your alternate. So you have 3 choices, park at the pool and walk, get a ride from the rec. center, or park in front of someones home and pi__ them off, your final choice depends on the type of individual you are. There had to be a reason they didn't provide a parking lot for cars but I can't imagine what it could have been. They should have built this next to the archery range and dog park in DeSoto.

Thank you this is very good information., I did not know this and since I will probably not be doing one half mile each way and 1/4 mile while there. this opens some doors for me.:clap2: Someday I hope to be able to, but not for awhile.

VApeople 04-04-2019 10:35 PM

We did the putt-n-play once and I hated it. On almost every hole, I had to hit the putts much harder than I do on a golf course and that really messed up my putting stroke, which is the hardest part of the game for me.

ColdNoMore 04-05-2019 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1638964)
We did the putt-n-play once and I hated it. On almost every hole, I had to hit the putts much harder than I do on a golf course and that really messed up my putting stroke, which is the hardest part of the game for me.

I assume the Putt & Play is real grass?


If so, the solution to that problem...might soon be remedied.


As the maintenance/quality of the surface decreases, as has happened on so many of the championship greens...the speeds will become more similar.


Problem solved. :D

dewilson58 04-05-2019 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1638974)
I assume the Putt & Play is real grass?


If so, the solution to that problem...might soon be remedied.


As the maintenance/quality of the surface decreases, as has happened on so many of the championship greens...the speeds will become more similar.


Problem solved. :D


Yes, real grass.


I actually have found the P&P greens faster and in better shape than a number of Exec greens.


The P&P is for entertainment, not professional putting practice.


It's a different experience.

biker1 04-05-2019 06:56 AM

IMHO, this will never happen. If anything, more executive courses are needed, not less. Secondly, the people that bought homes along the golf courses paid a premium for "golf course lots". I doubt anyone in authority would ever consider devaluing their property.

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1638950)
All the money that goes into maintaining an executive course, could be re-channeled into the creation of a putt-n-play. It'd cost less to maintain since it'd be smaller overall. You could even convert some of the property into other types of golf-related experiences. Maybe if there is an exec in bad condition, close to a family pool, you could have a putt-n-play AND a miniature golf course (I'd actually enjoy that, being a total non-golfer gamer geek).


Bogie Shooter 04-05-2019 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1638950)
All the money that goes into maintaining an executive course, could be re-channeled into the creation of a putt-n-play. It'd cost less to maintain since it'd be smaller overall. You could even convert some of the property into other types of golf-related experiences. Maybe if there is an exec in bad condition, close to a family pool, you could have a putt-n-play AND a miniature golf course (I'd actually enjoy that, being a total non-golfer gamer geek).

Tree Tops Golf

bagboy 04-05-2019 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1638229)
If you park at the Fenney Rec. Center you can go in and get a putter to use then ask for a ride to the course via one of their golf cars and get picked up when ready, they announced this months ago when people were complaining. If you are fit and able to walk the 1/4 mile you shouldn't use this option but if you are unable to walk it this is your alternate. So you have 3 choices, park at the pool and walk, get a ride from the rec. center, or park in front of someones home and pi__ them off, your final choice depends on the type of individual you are. There had to be a reason they didn't provide a parking lot for cars but I can't imagine what it could have been. They should have built this next to the archery range and dog park in DeSoto.

The fact that you live in Fenney leads me to believe that you know that Villagers can park at the Fenney Rec center and get a ride to and from the Putt and Play. This information was omitted from the other news site in their last article regarding the Putt and Play. I thought that to be a bit unprofessional, and incomplete reporting. I've always felt there was a bone to pick somewhere between the online news and the Villages.
After just reading today on the online news site about Wildwood ready to write warnings or citations to Villagers parking on public streets near the Putt and Play and no mention of parking alternatives at Fenney Rec center, I'm convinced the online news source has no interest in informing Villagers of facts and real news concerning events in The Villages.
I've made it this far in life without a Putt and Play, I can wait a little longer for the 44 bridge to be completed, then drive my cart there...or not.

vintageogauge 04-05-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1639226)
The fact that you live in Fenney leads me to believe that you know that Villagers can park at the Fenney Rec center and get a ride to and from the Putt and Play. This information was omitted from the other news site in their last article regarding the Putt and Play. I thought that to be a bit unprofessional, and incomplete reporting. I've always felt there was a bone to pick somewhere between the online news and the Villages.
After just reading today on the online news site about Wildwood ready to write warnings or citations to Villagers parking on public streets near the Putt and Play and no mention of parking alternatives at Fenney Rec center, I'm convinced the online news source has no interest in informing Villagers of facts and real news concerning events in The Villages.
I've made it this far in life without a Putt and Play, I can wait a little longer for the 44 bridge to be completed, then drive my cart there...or not.

Do they ever report all the facts?


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