[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by bob47

I don't think what you're saying is strictly accurate because the developer's profits have not been established yet. They will be established when he sells the facilities to some central district. So, it's quite likely that the more he has spent on these facilities, the higher their valuation will be when they are sold.

And is there a problem with that? Not sure of your point...

[NY2TV]

The post was not making false statements or rumors. It was a question. Why is that a bad thing? If anyone is being negative here, it is the posters who are jumping all over this.

[merrymini]

I am always amazed at people who want improvements, whether in a community like this or not, and expect it to be FREE. I am always amazed that people think that a business should be run as a charity and scold them for making a PROFIT. I am amazed that people want these handouts from the government and think that it is FREE. You must always pay the piper and that bill will be passed to your grandchildren. Thank you granny/grandad!

[pkfavreau2]

Also noticed cracks in corners in one rec room. Maybe the foundation needs work too.

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by HIgolfers

I just received a Vmail that Fenney Rec Center will undergo renovations starting Mar 5. Plans include expanding the Fitness Center, adding card and club meeting room and billiards and shuffleboard. How could this Rec Center need renovations so quickly? And who pays for this? There is a link for more info to district.gov website so that tells me our Amenity fees are paying for this?

Is this typical? Developer builds a bare bones facility and then shortly after buildout of that area, expansion, renovation has to be funded by residents?

You have bare bones info. This has been planned. Plus, you ask who is paying then you say the amenity fees are paying. Seems you need to get the facts straight before complaining

[elevatorman]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

The developer owns the amenities south of SR44, they are responsible for 100% of the maintenance and operating costs, including ANY expansion costs. If you live south of SR44 your amenity fee is paid to the developer. The developer in turn pays the SLAD (Sumter Landing Amenity Division) and RAD (Recreation Amenities Division) the operating costs incurred by the Recreation Department to staff and operate the facilities for them.

Here's a little secret you may have forgotten since moving into your little bubble, the developer is doing all of this to make a profit! It's a business for them. Profit is not a dirty word, it is the reality that allowed each and every one of us living here to be able to live here, if you think otherwise, you are only fooling yourself.

So, let's get back to the question at hand, who is paying for this expansion? The reality is that the developer is paying for it out of their profits. Some will argue that the residents are paying for this, in a way you are correct, you signed a contract and agreed to pay the amenity fee for as long as you live here, get over it! Did you amenity fee go up because of this? NO. If the majority of the residents asked for this expansion, only then could the amenity fee be raised, read your deed restrictions, this is in there. Since they didn't ask for the expansion, the residents will not be impacted or charged for the expansion.

Are the Amenity Fees from north of SR44 paying for any of this? NO. These funds do not support the amenities south of SR44 because their amenity contracts are owned by either the SLAD or the RAD, NOT THE DEVELOPER. The developer owns the facilities and the amenity contracts with the residents. The residents do not own the amenities, or the amenity fee contracts so the statement by O P that "...our Amenity fee is paying for this" is incorrect, it is not "our" money to spend. The O P's final statement is also both incorrect and little more than biased and unsubstantiated developer bashing.

Take the time to learn how the system works before complaining about it or making false and unfounded statements out of ignorance.

One last thought, you should feed damn lucky that these expansions are being done for you and at no cost to you. The developer has no obligation or requirement to do the expansions and could have just as easily said no to this work and you would have not known the difference.

Am I right to say that the $160 Amenity fee the people south of 44 belongs to the developer? If the developer can supply the amenities for less than this fee the remainder goes into his pocket? This is a question I honestly do not know.

[Syd2008]

Thank you as always GoldWingNut!!

[Bill32]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

And you got an answer.

Ha..that will teach you to never post anything negative...kick....kick....kick.... " Welcome to the Villages"

[richs631]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

The developer owns the amenities south of SR44, they are responsible for 100% of the maintenance and operating costs, including ANY expansion costs. If you live south of SR44 your amenity fee is paid to the developer. The developer in turn pays the SLAD (Sumter Landing Amenity Division) and RAD (Recreation Amenities Division) the operating costs incurred by the Recreation Department to staff and operate the facilities for them.

Here's a little secret you may have forgotten since moving into your little bubble, the developer is doing all of this to make a profit! It's a business for them. Profit is not a dirty word, it is the reality that allowed each and every one of us living here to be able to live here, if you think otherwise, you are only fooling yourself.

So, let's get back to the question at hand, who is paying for this expansion? The reality is that the developer is paying for it out of their profits. Some will argue that the residents are paying for this, in a way you are correct, you signed a contract and agreed to pay the amenity fee for as long as you live here, get over it! Did you amenity fee go up because of this? NO. If the majority of the residents asked for this expansion, only then could the amenity fee be raised, read your deed restrictions, this is in there. Since they didn't ask for the expansion, the residents will not be impacted or charged for the expansion.

Are the Amenity Fees from north of SR44 paying for any of this? NO. These funds do not support the amenities south of SR44 because their amenity contracts are owned by either the SLAD or the RAD, NOT THE DEVELOPER. The developer owns the facilities and the amenity contracts with the residents. The residents do not own the amenities, or the amenity fee contracts so the statement by O P that "...our Amenity fee is paying for this" is incorrect, it is not "our" money to spend. The O P's final statement is also both incorrect and little more than biased and unsubstantiated developer bashing.

Take the time to learn how the system works before complaining about it or making false and unfounded statements out of ignorance.

One last thought, you should feed damn lucky that these expansions are being done for you and at no cost to you. The developer has no obligation or requirement to do the expansions and could have just as easily said no to this work and you would have not known the difference.

With all due respect Goldwing nut, they only asked a question and never made any accusations. Why all the disparaging remarks. I agree with your answers but your remarks make you sound like the developers lawyer. Lighten up.

[hrydzik]

Well said. Thank you.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by pkfavreau2

Also noticed cracks in corners in one rec room. Maybe the foundation needs work too.

Posters on TOTV cannot really do anything about your observation. Perhaps you should contact the Rec Dept...................

[GPGuar]

Originally Posted by richs631

With all due respect Goldwing nut, they only asked a question and never made any accusations. Why all the disparaging remarks. I agree with your answers but your remarks make you sound like the developers lawyer. Lighten up.

I agree Goldwing nut sounds just a little bit harsh to the op's post. But thanks Goldwing nut for the correct answer.

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by bncuhler@verizon.net

Don, I have been wondering why there are no directional signs anywhere South of the Turnpike-coming in and out of the tunnels and along the multi-modal paths. All of Meggasin already has signs as does all of the areas between the Turnpike and 44. Is there someone we could contact to remedy this? It’s a safety issue and will be more important once the Water Lily bridge opens. Thank you!

Most of the signage, areas north of SR44, was updated last year thought actions by the PWAC and AAC. South of SR44 the MMPs are still under control/construction by the developer, so PWAC/AAC has no say. We've pushed back for more standardization south of SR44 but have gotten little traction. More directional signs are needed, but at this point it is up to the developer to install them. Contact the District Office Customer Service center at 352-753-4508 and let them know your concerns, this will be forwarded to the developer by the District staff.

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by elevatorman

Am I right to say that the $160 Amenity fee the people south of 44 belongs to the developer? If the developer can supply the amenities for less than this fee the remainder goes into his pocket? This is a question I honestly do not know.

Correct, they may make a profit from the amenity fees they collect south of SR44. The profit only starts to happen when nearly all the homes are sold, until then they have all the costs to shoulder but not all of the revenue from the sold home amenity fees. The first few years the amenities in the new areas are a loss for that portion of their business.

[bncuhler@verizon.net]

Thanks, Don!