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Zenmama18 11-06-2023 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2271517)
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.

I changed all the clocks but one and that was the one I looked at before leaving the house for a baby shower. Of course I was an hour early!

nn0wheremann 11-06-2023 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2271517)
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.

Leave it on Standard Time, or move the Chang dates back to April and October. 8:00 sunrises are a bummer.

mntlblok 11-06-2023 07:38 AM

Water clocks
 
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Originally Posted by Switter (Post 2271763)
^^^^
This.

I'd rather lose the time in the morning. Right now at 7 AM it's 46° outside. I moved to Florida to not be outside when it's 46°, so gaining daylight in the morning and losing it in the evening (when it's warmer) is a net loss to me. i'm hoping someday they scrap daylight savings altogether.

Scrap it or make it permanent?

Still finding this subject particularly fascinating. Journeyed even *further* down that rabbit hole and found *this* fun fact. Had no idea!

"Ancient civilizations adjusted daily schedules to the sun more flexibly than DST does, often dividing daylight into 12 hours regardless of daytime, so that each daylight hour became progressively longer during spring and shorter during autumn.[17] For example, the Romans kept time with water clocks that had different scales for different months of the year; at Rome's latitude, the third hour from sunrise (hora tertia) started at 9:02 solar time and lasted 44 minutes at the winter solstice, but at the summer solstice it started at 6:58 and lasted 75 minutes.[18] From the 14th century onward, equal-length civil hours supplanted unequal ones, so civil time no longer varied by season. Unequal hours are still used in a few traditional settings, such as monasteries of Mount Athos[19] and in Jewish ceremonies.[20]"

Well, *I* thought it was interesting. :-)

airstreamingypsy 11-06-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2271559)
Doesn't anybody wear a watch?

Not anymore. I carry mine around, it's so fancy it can take pictures and make phone calls.

bragones 11-06-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fishon (Post 2271577)
The clock in the golf cart is the worst.
I now take out the little battery behind the speedometer and reinstall it at noon.
Easy.

Too funny. I hope the clock eventually stops blinking/flashing at you screaming to be set.

Dusty_Star 11-06-2023 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2271598)
But what time does the sun set up north in June? Probably an hour later than here in the Villages.

Not for northeasterners, we are so far east of the Villages that the sun still sets later in the Villages than in the northeast in June.

Bill14564 11-06-2023 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2271791)
Not for northeasterners, we are so far east of the Villages that the sun still sets later in the Villages than in the northeast in June.

But you still have more hours of daylight. The hours may be shifted relative to the Villages (earlier sunrise and sunset) but more total hours.

RedChariot 11-06-2023 09:00 AM

I hate all this. Prefer DST. Now it will get dark at 4:30 in the afternoon . Who cares if its light in in the early morning! Just pick one time and I'll learn to live with it. Enough already!

Burnie 11-06-2023 09:02 AM

Back in the seventies (1974, I think) nationwide Daylight Savings Time remained for one year as an experiment to see how people would handle it. It lasted only one year mainly because people complained that it was too dangerous for children going to school in the dark (among other reasons).

mntlblok 11-06-2023 09:09 AM

1974!
 
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Originally Posted by Burnie (Post 2271811)
Back in the seventies (1974, I think) nationwide Daylight Savings Time remained for one year as an experiment to see how people would handle it. It lasted only one year mainly because people complained that it was too dangerous for children going to school in the dark (among other reasons).

Wow! How did I not know (remember) that! Cool! The US Tried Permanent Daylight Saving Time in the ’70s. People Hated It - Washingtonian

mntlblok 11-06-2023 09:16 AM

Tricky stuff
 
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2271797)
But you still have more hours of daylight. The hours may be shifted relative to the Villages (earlier sunrise and sunset) but more total hours.

Looks like it depends on the time of year. Tricky stuff. . .

Times for sunrise and sunset in the United States of America

DonnaNi4os 11-06-2023 09:30 AM

While you are at it don’t forget to change the batteries in your smoke detectors. In the world of potential serious events, stress from changing my clocks is at the very bottom of the list. As for there ever being a time when daylight savings time is year round please consider that children will be standing at bus stops in pitch dark.its never going to happen.

Steve 11-06-2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2271517)
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.

Contact your Congressman. Florida passed the measure to stay on DSL all the time, but for some reason it has to be approved by the U-S House of Representatives. Pelosi wouldn't bring it to the floor of the House for a vote. Now we have a new speaker. Let's get it voted on to go into effect immediately. This getting dark at 5:30 is for the birds!

DonnaNi4os 11-06-2023 10:22 AM

Every time you get upset at something, ask yourself if you were to die tomorrow, was it worth wasting your time being angry.

Topspinmo 11-06-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2271689)
No, it doesn't. Florida is closer to the equator and has more daylight hours all year round compared to the northernmost states of the USA.

Has to do with the axis, sun not going around the equator.

coffeebean 11-06-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2271540)
Lets see, clock in bedroom, grandfather clock, digital clock in living room, 2 battery powered analog clocks, 2 vehicle clocks, irrigation clock, looking forward to the end of this confusion.

I always forget the irrigation clock. Thanks Tinker. Going to change that one now.

coffeebean 11-06-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 2271548)
I was thinking the same thing. Literally the only clock to change is the oven (we disabled the microwave clock). My vehicles change on their own and the Rachio irrigation controller does it based on our wifi.

I wish I had so few clocks to change........

Battery clock in master bath, 2 alarm clocks in the master bedroom, large clock in LR, battery clock in kitchen, microwave, stove, battery clock in foyer, battery clock in hall bathroom, battery clock in garage, three timers in the house that operated lamps, battery clock in den, 2 clock radios and timer outside for holiday lights. Let's not forget the irrigation clock!

What a royal PIA to do this twice a year. It doesn't matter which time can be permanent (standard or DST)..........................just pick one!!!!

Tvflguy 11-06-2023 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2271870)
I wish I had so few clocks to change........

Battery clock in master bath, 2 alarm clocks in the master bedroom, large clock in LR, battery clock in kitchen, microwave, stove, battery clock in foyer, battery clock in hall bathroom, battery clock in garage, three timers in the house that operated lamps, battery clock in den, 2 clock radios and timer outside for holiday lights. Let's not forget the irrigation clock!

What a royal PIA to do this twice a year. It doesn't matter which time can be permanent (standard or DST)..........................just pick one!!!!

I’m the OP. And I thought I had a job with 14 or so clocks to reset. PIA is so right.

coffeebean 11-06-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2271612)
Geeeez. I must be really old.

About 8 of our “things” auto
Time correct. Laptops, cars, phones and such. Then about 12 or so have to be manually set, oven , micro, 4 clocks, landline phone ( yes, old…), timers, other crap.

Manually, going “back” is a PITA.

Oh goody, six or so months and we go forward. Hope I’m still around to complain about that…

Spring forward 2024 is March 10th. We are on standard time only 4 months.

retiredguy123 11-06-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2271825)
While you are at it don’t forget to change the batteries in your smoke detectors. In the world of potential serious events, stress from changing my clocks is at the very bottom of the list. As for there ever being a time when daylight savings time is year round please consider that children will be standing at bus stops in pitch dark.its never going to happen.

Typically, the batteries that come with your smoke detectors are alkaline batteries which have a 5 to 10 year shelf life. They are only used in smoke detectors for backup purposes when you have a power failure. They are rarely used at all. Also, when the battery becomes weak, the smoke detector will start to beep to alert you to replace the battery. So, in my opinion, routinely replacing the batteries every 6 months, as some recommend, is an outdated recommendation. If you want even longer lasting smoke detectors, you can replace the batteries with lithium batteries that are designed to last 10 years or longer.

coffeebean 11-06-2023 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 2271717)
It is odd we still do this time change....Here is the "reason".

Why Daylight Saving Time Is Stupid - LewRockwell

My vote is for Standard Time, but, as I said in an earlier post........I'll take anytime.......just pick one!!!!!

Ecuadog 11-06-2023 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2271874)
Typically, the batteries that come with your smoke detectors are alkaline batteries which have a 5 to 10 year shelf life. They are only used in smoke detectors for backup purposes when you have a power failure. They are rarely used at all. Also, when the battery becomes weak, the smoke detector will start to beep to alert you to replace the battery. So, in my opinion, routinely replacing the batteries every 6 months, as some recommend, is an outdated recommendation. If you want even longer lasting smoke detectors, you can replace the batteries with lithium batteries that are designed to last 10 years or longer.

Bingo.

I installed nine Energizer Ultimate Lithium (10 yr) batteries in 12/2016 and made a note in my Google calendar to replace them all in 12/2026. So far, only two have failed earlier than expected. One in 11/2021 and one in 10/2023.

fishon 11-06-2023 01:51 PM

If you have eight smoke detectors that’s a 25% failure rate to date. That is not acceptable.

ThirdOfFive 11-06-2023 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2271639)
Still need to wind our Grandfather Clock once per month. The clock was built in 1886 and runs perfectly ever since Joe the clock guy in the Villages fixed her up for us. I finally graduated to a self winding Seiko dive watch.

My wife got me an Apple watch. Don't trust it: it talks to me, tells me when it is too noisy (like I don't know!), reminds me to stand up. Tells me when my phone is ringing. For all I know it is spying on me too.

Like having a second wife on my arm.

coffeebean 11-06-2023 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2271814)

So, why not try permanent standard time?

retiredguy123 11-06-2023 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2271889)
Bingo.

I installed nine Energizer Ultimate Lithium (10 yr) batteries in 12/2016 and made a note in my Google calendar to replace them all in 12/2026. So far, only two have failed earlier than expected. One in 11/2021 and one in 10/2023.

Note that the newer smoke alarms will not even allow you to use the detector after 10 years. They have a built-in timer and the device starts to beep until you replace the detector.

Ecuadog 11-06-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2271930)
Note that the newer smoke alarms will not even allow you to use the detector after 10 years. They have a built-in timer and the device starts to beep until you replace the detector.

Yeah... I installed new detectors at the same time because the old ones were long overdue.

Bill14564 11-06-2023 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2271923)
So, why not try permanent standard time?

Permanent standard time or permanent saving time - someone is going to be unhappy. But I agree, pick one and stick with it. Personally, standard time is more logical since it aligns with the earth and sun are doing but hey, we're America, we make our own rules.

Dusty_Star 11-06-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2271810)
I hate all this. Prefer DST. Now it will get dark at 4:30 in the afternoon . Who cares if its light in in the early morning! Just pick one time and I'll learn to live with it. Enough already!

I prefer Daylight Savings Time too. Fortunately, that is the one that is currently in the bills to stop this nonsense.

coffeebean 11-06-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2271934)
Yeah... I installed new detectors at the same time because the old ones were long overdue.

Equadog.....Who is the woman in your current avatar? She looks to be an actress from the 40s. She is beautiful.

Ecuadog 11-06-2023 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2271959)
Equadog.....Who is the woman in your current avatar? She looks to be an actress from the 40s. She is beautiful.

Today, it is Gene Tierney.

kcrazorbackfan 11-06-2023 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2271517)
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.

Our “Leadership” doesn’t, won’t, can’t listen to their constituents.

mtdjed 11-06-2023 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2271561)
Alkaline batteries have a 5-10 year shelf life, when used as a backup battery. Changing them every 6 months seems like overkill.

But they are not on the shelf. They are constantly checking the status. I always wait until one starts beeping and then change them all. That first one always happens in the middle of the night in our bedroom.

retiredguy123 11-07-2023 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2272008)
But they are not on the shelf. They are constantly checking the status. I always wait until one starts beeping and then change them all. That first one always happens in the middle of the night in our bedroom.

I agree. Note that the beeping or chirping sound is triggered by a drop in voltage across the battery terminals. The chirping is not powered by the battery, but by your house power. Even if your remove the battery, the chirping will continue until you replace the battery.

retiredguy123 11-07-2023 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fishon (Post 2271894)
If you have eight smoke detectors that’s a 25% failure rate to date. That is not acceptable.

I have 4 smoke detectors with alkaline batteries. In 8 years, only one has failed and started to chirp. I replaced all 4 batteries. But, replacing every battery on a regular basis that haven't failed seems like a wasted effort, especially since you need to use a ladder, and the detectors are designed to alert you when they need to be replaced. I can understand those who are snowbirds and may want to prevent a failure while they are away.

Bay Kid 11-07-2023 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2271930)
Note that the newer smoke alarms will not even allow you to use the detector after 10 years. They have a built-in timer and the device starts to beep until you replace the detector.

They will need to be dusted from time to time.

coffeebean 11-07-2023 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2271967)
Today, it is Gene Tierney.

Thanks for the reply.

Who is the guy in the baret?

coffeebean 11-07-2023 07:27 PM

Found another clock to change today.......the Watts hot water re-circulation pump has a timer. I think we are done now.

La lamy 11-07-2023 07:28 PM

This year worked out great, I left for TV right after the time change so no need to change all the clocks. They'll be perfect when I get back in late spring!

thelegges 11-07-2023 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2271533)
What about the regular oven and the vehicle?

My car automatically changes time just like our cells, and all of our electronics. Only clock manual is range and microwave, which I don’t bother with.


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