Are the 131 cases in Fl ? No clarification on the comment.

Positive Cases of COVID-19
as of 7:00 p.m. ET 3/16/2020

Confirmed Cases in Florida Residents
142
Confirmed by DOH
99
Tested by private labs
43
Characteristics of Florida Resident Cases

FL resident diagnosed & isolated out of state*
6
Deaths
5
Cases in Non-Florida Residents
18
Confirmed by DOH
16
Tested by private labs
2


Total Cases Overview
160
Traveled
45
Contact with confirmed case
32
Travel & contact with confirmed case
51
Under Investigation
32

Up to 160 now and YES, they are all in FL.

COVID-19 | Florida Department of Health

Our comeuppance?

Any employee who spouts off information, that is not a designated spokesperson should be fired. It’s what fuels panic, and the unknown.

We were reminded that no information is discussed even in the halls, much less to a random person, who then can post any hear say.

We also received an email warning immediate dismissal would be warranted, for violating any named or unnamed case.

"Covid-19" Can it be that simple?
 

If I stay the recommended "6-feet' distance from other people AND I never touch my face - Am I 'immune' from infection?
It can't be that simple - Can it?
If not, how else can I get infected?:
:spoken:

coronavrius
 

yes is travel related but can be spread out already to another people
here in lake county

160 confirmed cases in Florida and probably 1,000s of unconfirmed cases. People walking around with either no symptoms yet, or symptoms they think are allergies or a cold. Seriously, 1,000s.

Let’s be smart !
 

Let’s be smart , we need to stay Home so the Virus won’t spread more . It only Makes common sense .
Too many people walking around without knowing they have the virus this is just the beginning . Listen to the Government , you should be happy you hear all these these warnings......
Follow them !

Someone stated “end of world”
 

I would say possibly end of the elderly generation if China continues to limit export of our medications. Several factories there are closed and now there are issues with us continuing to get other antibiotics with are 80 percent of ingredients made from China. They are hitting us when we are vulnerable.

Exactly!!!

It seems that there are two extreme reactions that some people are having. One extreme is that people are terrified, buying up toilet paper and hoarding goods. The other is that people think that this is all nothing or some big government conspiracy and are going to try to keep living their lives as if nothing is happening.

Both of these positions are going to help this virus to spread. And it will spread.

What we can do is to follow the WHO, CDC and administration task force recommendations and wash our hands frequently and stay six feet away from other people. And that is all we can do.

The fact that some people aren't going to do this is what is going to make it spread faster.

Let me post this once instead of replying to all of the posts from my friends who keep comparing CoVid-19 to the flu. The reasons that this is different from recent outbreaks of influenza is that #1, we have a very effective vaccine for influenza that we don't have for CoVid-19. The current flu season we have had 30 million reported cases of the flu. Imagine if we didn't have a vaccine. That is what we are looking at. Without a vaccination we would be having the same panic over the flu.
#2, we have anti-viral medications that are very effective against most common strains of influenza. In spite of that we have had at least 12,000 and possibly as many as 30,000 deaths from the flu. We have no medications what whatsoever to fight against CoVid-19. If we don't start taking preventative measures who knows how many will die?
#3, When a person contracts the flu, symptoms usually show up immediately. The person that gets it takes actions to get medications and stay away from friends and family. When CoVid-19 is contracted, symptoms don't show up for up to two weeks. Although we currently know how many cases have been reported of CoVid-19, we really have no idea how many people in this country have it right now. It could be in the millions. Every person that you see is a possible carrier.
This is very different from the flu. It is different from the H1N1 (Swine Flu ) that went around a few years ago. This is the worst threat to us as a people since the 1918 pandemic where 1/3 of the world's population became infected and 50 million died.
Lastly, we don't know what the long term affects of this disease. While it's true that most people that contract it have flu like symptoms for a week or so, we don't know if those people are permanently affected. Will they become immune to it in the future or will it recur in them every year?
This is not like the influenza that we see every year. It is very, very different.

But with no vaccination or medications available, I don't think that it's inconceivable that this could turn into a similar situation.

The reason that the flu doesn't threaten us every year like it did in 1918 is because vaccinations and medications have been developed to prevent it.

Of course they didn't have the communication systems in 1918 that we have now, but I wonder if some people were saying, "We're nowhere near a pandemic at this point" back then?

Just think of the reporting and accumulation lag time in 1918.
We have a blessing/curse of almost instantaneous availability.

Speaking of martial law, what does it take in this country to declare martial law? Can the president do this on his own or does it need to be an act of congress?

To set the record straight, I suggested that an over-response RISKS a worldwide recession---that is NOT an OPINION, just a statement of a possibility.

I did not accuse YOU of misinformation, just a large number of posts on this subject

And BTW, I know Tony Fauci, do you?????

If you are concerned about businesses and amenities staying open you can just stay away. Please don't try to force your views and concerns on others!

So how do you impose this quarantine? Who do you test and not test? How many times do you test? When people begin to starve do you lift the quarantine? Why is it okay to hoard from other citizens but if you raise prices in a crisis you are fined and could be arrested? Why are politicians speaking to the country and not Drs? With all the modern communication, data collection ability and ability to share data why can we not get a 95% correct reporting?

Have about a million more questions, what ifs, how do we get there and so on. Most of the talk here does nothing and is highly suspect on truth and fact. Be safe, follow basic intelligent medical practices and make decisions on your needs. Understand that everyone is different and can make choices that are best for themselves that does not hurt others. Personally not afraid of the virus but extremely more worried about being a carrier that causes harm to others.

So do you actually have any support for the alternative facts above? There sure isn't any in the article that GoodLife offered a link to. Instead, it says that the workers came from Wenzhou, a port city over 500 miles from Wuhan. It further states that "More than ten per cent of Prato’s two hundred thousand legal residents are Chinese." - a far cry from 100,000. The non-stop flights? Actually "between Wenzhou and Rome". Also missing from the NewYorker article is any mention whatsoever of Wuhan.

I'm afraid that this kind of looks like another case of reckless misinformation or rumor-mongering regarding the COVID-19 virus. :shocked:

At some point we will have to set aside the debate(s) of what was or wasn't.

And join the here and now and offer more dialogue of how we can all help make the suppression of the virus work. The actions the government has taken and will take are nothing more than common sense.....however as we all know there is too high of a percent of those who will not implement the common sense, hence enforcement becomes a necessity. Then and only then will the beaches and bars and streets be cleared and maintained.

Check the cameras on the squares....they are 99% empty.
We, for the most part, have a vested interest and comply.

I wish there were cameras on the beaches, the view is probably much different.

As on the news yesterday a mother with her school break children said they had no intention of cancelling. They were not worried because they were healthy and younger.

....that is why martial enforcement becomes necessary
....for the selfish/stupid/inconsiderate!!

Moments ago I received an email from The Villages entitled "An Important Message from Our Chief Medical Officer Regarding the Coronavirus (COVID-19)." The message further explains why none have yet to test positive in The Villages. I'll quote directly from the email.

Please note that the availability of testing kits is STILL in the future sense. They STILL don't have any. The believe they will get some "very soon" without saying what "very soon" means. Even then they will be limited to just ten per hospital allowing them to be used only on those the CDC defines as eligible based on their symptoms. A week ago the President told you that if your doctor ordered a test you could have it done. Still not true.

The Florida Department of Health has some interesting statistics regarding testing. Here are the numbers.

Total Tests Performed = 2004
Positive Results = 192
Negative Results = 940
Results Still Pending = 872

If you add Positive Results and Negative Results together you get the total number of tests performed and resolved. That number is 1132 of which 192 were positive for positive results rate of 17%. If you apply that to the 872 results still pending the expectation would be about 148 more would test positive, without a single new test being performed.

Of course one of the theories is that the more testing gets done the lower that percentage of positives will be. At least with the limited data I have, not only is that theory not supported but the reverse is true. Yesterday I noted the above figures as follows.

Total Tests Performed = 1824
Positive Results = 160
Negative Results = 816
Results Still Pending = 848

So if you do the subtraction on this between yesterday and today an additional 156 tests were resolved. Of these 32 were positive. That's positive test rate of 20.5%. So the most recent tests resolved are actually above the overall positive test rate. If the more recent data is used then the expected positives for the 872 results still pending is about 179 more positives without a single additional test being performed. That's nearly the total number of positives now, without a single additional test being performed.

Hmmmm? This is confusing.
 

1- The New Yorker article you referred to was written 2 years ago. Before the virus happened.
2- Also the entire article is about how in the 80s, Chinese workers came over to work in sweatshops for high end fashion designers in Italy.

Everything you mentioned in your post has nothing to do with THIS NYer article. Do you have other evidence about a hundred thousand Chinese people coming to Italy and infecting them? I don't think you do. I don't think that's true. Good luck to us all...

That's my two cents, it's worth what you paid for it...

When did Wuhan become Wenshou? The New Yorker article references Wenshou, nearly 900 km from Wuhan.

Yes. 1 in Lake Cty :/

Your sources may be far better than mine.

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It's up to 216 with 7 deaths total (including Florida residents who died outside Florida)

The virus is airborne for 3 hours
 

Princeton medical published this information a handful of days ago. The virus can live in the air for up to 3 hours, thus spreading transmission even when you wash your hands. They are debating the size of the droplets spread when an infected person sneezes. If large, they would go to the floor, if smaller, they can stay airborne through ventilation, fans, etc. That, and the fact that an infected person can stay contagious for the 2 weeks, versus a number of days for the flu, makes this a dangerous combination.

I would suggest if you must go to a store or bank, go as soon as they open, hoping for the least likelihood of infection preceding you.

Sorry, posted the wrong link previously, had 20 tabs open. This is the correct link below.

Northern Italy & Wuhan: Partners for Better or Worse

Northern Italy & Wuhan: Partners for Better or Worse - Italy Health China

Florida DOH just posted its numbers and I have performed a similar analysis to what I did yesterday to determine the percentage of positive tests. Despite many more tests being done, the percentage testing positive jumped from 20.5% to 30%. Here are the numbers.

Total Tested = 2493 (+489 from the day before)
Total Positive = 314 (+122)
Total Negative = 1225 (+285)
Tests Pending = 954 (+82)

Adding the positive and negative gains together yields 407 tests resolved between yesterday and today. Of those 122 were positive, so 30% of those tests resolved between yesterday and today were positive. That number yesterday from the day before was 20.5%. Yesterday the overall average was 17%. That's now been pulled up 20%.

If we apply the most recent figure of 30% to the 954 pending tests, then about 286 of those pending tests would come up positive without a single additional test being performed.

Notably more tests are being performed. The figure today jumped 489 from yesterday. Whereas yesterday jumped only 180 from the day before it. So more than double the tests are getting done.

Much more are being resolved too. The test resolved increase of 407 today compares to just 156 for the day before, again much more than double.