[Velvet]

I am sorry but I thought that it was really underhanded to pass on the impact fees to current home owners through increased property taxes. I am pretty sure if that is tried again anywhere there will be a response. I’m ready to bet on it.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Doesnt sit well with me when the guy who introduces the legislation is employed by the people it is designed to help.

Be interesting to see if he gets reelected, sure will not get my vote.

Originally Posted by New Englander

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He won't get my vote either.

Originally Posted by JoMar

Apparently there is a belief that one legislator controls the entire State.....there were 122 Yea votes and 35 Nay votes in the House and Senate, and that one person represents The Villages.....really? Most of those do not represent us. How will you deal with those that were of the same mind (knowledge) of what the increases would mean? Oh wait, the Developer controls them right?

Agree with JoMar.

Here are the sponsors of the Bill.....as a Sumter County residents I don't believe we can vote for them.

Rep. Nick DiCeglie of Pinellas County, the House bill sponsor, said “a relief valve” would exist for local governments that can convince voters of a need to go higher.

A companion bill is expected to sail through the Senate under the sponsorship of Sen. Joe Gruters, R-Sarasota, who is chairman of the Florida Republican Party.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Apparently there is a belief that one legislator controls the entire State.....there were 122 Yea votes and 35 Nay votes in the House and Senate, and that one person represents The Villages.....really? Most of those do not represent us. How will you deal with those that were of the same mind (knowledge) of what the increases would mean? Oh wait, the Developer controls them right?

The one legislator does not control the entire state but when he submits a bill that directly benefits the developer and he is employed by that developer does that not strike you as wrong, very wrong!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Robbie0723 this has nothing to do with capitalism and socialism. You're pulling at straws with my comments, extracting opinions I never made about facts I never claimed. I did not say I wanted the government to be our keepers. I said "more" services - not "all" services. Also, the developer is a pretty significant source of capitalism. UNLESS they reap the profits without giving back. And then, they are the recipient of capitalism, while the rest of us are the source.

Taxpayers pay taxes every year. Impact-fees are a one-time expense. A homeowner will see an increased impact fee as an increase in the base cost of their home, to the tune of perhaps $600 on top of what they're already paying. Period. Not every year. Just once, in the purchase price. In fact, if that home is re-sold, they will recoup that impact fee increase cost by passing it on to the new buyer. The developer won't have to pay a dime extra, then.

Meanwhile, taxpayers are still paying taxes, every year. The homebuyer is seeing a $200-400 tax increase every year, indefinitely.

I'd rather pay once, and pass the cost on to the next buyer when the time comes, than have to shell out extra every single year, multiple times what I would have had to pay, if I had only to pay it once when I purchased the home.

Your mileage may vary. If you prefer to pay the taxes, let me know your address and I'll send you our next year's tax bill.

[Rzepecki]

Originally Posted by New Englander

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He won't get my vote either.

Ditto!

[crash]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Does the bill imply that the needed impact fees should be paid by other people than the homebuyers themselves? Pass on the existing home owners, for example? THAT would say something very clearly to me about what is going on....
I hope the “predictable marketplace” also applies to present home owners.

Impact fees are a one time fee paid for by the developer (builder) they are not a tax as so often stated in the daily Sun. This of course means all the tax payers of Sumter county will be paying for the new roads that were needed to build south of 44 because the money will come out of the general fund.

[Syd2008]

Looks like not just our ‘developer’ issue. Statewide.

Lobbyists/businesses are all over government all all levels up to POTUS with $$$

[fastboat]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Doesnt sit well with me when the guy who introduces the legislation is employed by the people it is designed to help.

Be interesting to see if he gets reelected, sure will not get my vote.

Nor mine. Dislike people in power who do favors for other people with money while flipping the rest of us the bird.

[fastboat]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Good information in the above post. However it doesn’t answer an obvious question. Will this bill be post dated so that it reverses the recent Sumter County Commissioners vote regarding impact fees?

Yes, it is retroactive to January 1st to make sure the impact FEE increase passed by representatives of the citizens of Sumter doesn't effect Mr Hage's employer.

Time to get rid of the last 2 minions on the board of commissioners and put the governing of Sumter County back into the hands of its citizens.

[diva1]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Apparently there is a belief that one legislator controls the entire State.....there were 122 Yea votes and 35 Nay votes in the House and Senate, and that one person represents The Villages.....really? Most of those do not represent us. How will you deal with those that were of the same mind (knowledge) of what the increases would mean? Oh wait, the Developer controls them right?

Please! You know how this works. Brett Hage needs some votes...he votes for their bill and they vote for his. And please know that The Family is the Number 1 donator to the Republican Party in the State of Florida. So they have a lot of influence. The governor stops by for lunch with them for petes sake!

[Buckeye Bob]

This is government overreach. The state government should not be involved with county/city issues.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by John41

DeSantis and Republicans lost my vote although I won’t vote Democrat. Best government money can buy. If the impact fee doesn’t cover the cost of new infrastructure the commissioners shouldn’t build it and rezone as much residential back to industrial or agriculture. Taxes are going to skyrocket otherwise.

Sir this state probably has the best and most proactive Governor in the country. You should be grateful for his courage to stand up for the people of FL. If you doubt that then you simply aren't paying attention.

[Jim 9922]

Originally Posted by Rzepecki

Ditto!

Originally Posted by New Englander

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He won't get my vote either.

He won't need it. They will probably run another shill in the next election.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Jim 9922

He won't need it. They will probably run another shill in the next election.

If they do hopefully we will know he/she is a shill and vote for somebody else who just might want to benefit we the people instead of just me the developer.

[EileenRo]

You need to read the bill to understand how it benefits the developer and not homeowners. It is a shame someone who was voted in office by Villagers is more loyal to his employer than us. Read the actual bill and look at the deletions and additions before you praise this bill as being helpful to homeowners.