Florida vs NY Covid-19 Comparison is Enlightening

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Old 04-22-2020, 10:54 AM
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My daughter is a Nurse Practicioner who oversees healthcare for the elderly in nursing homes in NY. She believes that the Florida numbers of Covid-19 cases are significantly lower than New York's (even after excluding NYC) because the more elderly population in Florida is wiser and more responsible than the younger generation who don't practice the mitigation guidelines for whatever reasons. ( 75% of Florida cases are under age 65). Interesting perspective. Everyone has an opinion but the facts are as follows as of April 20:

Florida Population: 21,646,155 Cases: 27,058 Deaths: 823


New York Population: 19,491,339. Cases: 242,786. Deaths: 13,869


Knowing NYC is the big hotspot, I isolated these numbers. Here are the results:


NYC Population: 8,770,000 Cases: 136,806 Deaths: 10,344

Non-NYC Population: 10,721,339. Cases: 105,980 Deaths: 3.525


I didn't remove the Florida hotspots Miami, Ft Lauderdale, etc. but as you can see the Florida cases are significantly lower than NY with or without NYC. Florida's number would be 10 times higher with NY's ratio of cases per population. Now I can see why reopening should be significantly different state by state.

This analysis shows what happens when you take a retired numbers guy and put him in lockdown with two females in Florida for 6 weeks.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:04 AM
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Interesting stats. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:17 AM
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Florida's testing is woefully inadequate compared to NY. NY has almost as many positive tests as the total amount of testing done in FL.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:34 AM
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Yes, interesting information. The two are different in many ways too. New York City density and younger population is a huge difference. Although Florida has travel, it pales in comparison to the international flights in and out of NY. There is compelling evidence that the virus originated overseas and was carried to the United States. Many of us moved to Florida for the mild winter climate. Of course there are other reasons, and high on the list is the opportunity for an active lifestyle that a community with amenities like The Villages. Common sense distancing, washing of hands and following Coronavirus guidelines will help get us through this experience. Most of us have survived tough times before and will again.
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Florida's testing is woefully inadequate compared to NY. NY has almost as many positive tests as the total amount of testing done in FL.
Testing rate doesn’t influence death rate. Dead is dead.
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Exactly.
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Old 04-23-2020, 05:08 AM
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Interesting stats but will they hold up ? Please check back in, in a month.
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Old 04-23-2020, 05:13 AM
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Still wonder how accurate the statistics are in the first place but thanks for the sharing
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Old 04-23-2020, 05:25 AM
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My daughter is a Nurse Practicioner who oversees healthcare for the elderly in nursing homes in NY. She believes that the Florida numbers of Covid-19 cases are significantly lower than New York's (even after excluding NYC) because the more elderly population in Florida is wiser and more responsible than the younger generation who don't practice the mitigation guidelines for whatever reasons. ( 75% of Florida cases are under age 65). Interesting perspective. Everyone has an opinion but the facts are as follows as of April 20:

Florida Population: 21,646,155 Cases: 27,058 Deaths: 823


New York Population: 19,491,339. Cases: 242,786. Deaths: 13,869


Knowing NYC is the big hotspot, I isolated these numbers. Here are the results:


NYC Population: 8,770,000 Cases: 136,806 Deaths: 10,344

Non-NYC Population: 10,721,339. Cases: 105,980 Deaths: 3.525


I didn't remove the Florida hotspots Miami, Ft Lauderdale, etc. but as you can see the Florida cases are significantly lower than NY with or without NYC. Florida's number would be 10 times higher with NY's ratio of cases per population. Now I can see why reopening should be significantly different state by state.

This analysis shows what happens when you take a retired numbers guy and put him in lockdown with two females in Florida for 6 weeks.
Ridiculous analysis.
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Ridiculous analysis.
Why is that a ridiculous analysis?
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Your wonderful, thanks for the analysis
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Old 04-23-2020, 06:04 AM
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Really? I think it’s because we can’t get tested like they are doing in NY. Testing here in the Villages was open for about 10 days and then they closed for lack of testing supplies. Most tested were for research not because people thought they had it. Most of those were turned away. I believe only about 900 were test in an area with 160,000 homes. Then they finally opened again for 2 days only? I believe our numbers are low not because people are wiser here but because of lack of testing.
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Old 04-23-2020, 06:05 AM
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Thank you! I compared Oakland County, Michigan ( my home, suburban Detroit) with Lake, Marion and Sumter counties. Adjusting for population differences, they have 13 times the cases we have. I think this is interesting, because Oakland county has virtually no public transportation. Poor Detroit. Not sure when I will return.
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If you have symptoms there are no shortage of tests. Call your doctor.
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Old 04-23-2020, 06:20 AM
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NY re-classified 7,000 deaths from unknown to virus, to pump up the numbers. They are crying poor mouth with 10 loaves of bread under their arms. The Comfort and The Javits field hospitals only had 20 and 90 patients between them, respectively. And that's Federal money paying for those. Cuomo told Trump to get the Comfort outta there - they need the dock space for commercial traffic. NY NY - always thumbing their nose at the rest of us. Here's mud in your eye......
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