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English Ivy 12-15-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 429501)
Anybody ever try to drive NO MORE than 20 MPH for 2 - 3 CONSECUTIVE miles in a real car ???!! Probably impossible unless you are driving in first gear or going thru Atlanta during the rush hour! This should be a wonderful revenue producer for the county's coffers. This half baked law should earn us a better speed trap reputation than those redneck speed trap towns on HY 301 coming down from the North.
I can't ever remember seeing any notices published that this 20 mph law was even being considered. Another example of underworked, overpaid, and uneducated bureaucrats worring about our "safety" even though most of us have managed quite fine with common sense for our 65 to 90 years. Next it will be seat belts for bicycles to keep us from falling off or mandatory trikes to keep from falling over.
:cus:

Why do you think you'd be traveling @ 20mph for 2 to 3 consecutive miles? Do you even have any idea which roads are affected by this change? Have you read the information published about this change? Assuming you haven't, here's a link: http://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/P...27&ql=standard

IMO, everybody's getting all bent out of shape over this without really knowing what it's all about.

cappyjon431 12-15-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by English Ivy (Post 429508)
Why do you think you'd be traveling @ 20mph for 2 to 3 consecutive miles? Do you even have any idea which roads are affected by this change? Have you read the information published about this change? Assuming you haven't, here's a link: http://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/P...27&ql=standard

IMO, everybody's getting all bent out of shape over this without really knowing what it's all about.

:agree:

Jhooman 12-15-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cappyjon431 (Post 429415)
I saw it too, southbound lane of Buena Vista just a little north of the El Camino Real circle,

BUT

If you read the fine print under the sign, it is just advising residents that the speed limits on streets in TV which are unmarked will now be 20 mph. It is not saying the speed limit on BV is 20 mph (and there is a 35 mph speed limit sign right after this advisory sign, obviously meaning BV is exempt from the 20 mph limit).

Thank you for confirming the 20 MPH sign on Buena Vista. It is confusing to see a 20 MPH and then a 35MPH so quickly. However, I could not read the fine print on the 20 MPH sign.

But we saw two car accidents on Buena Vista this afternoon. I believe people were traveling too fast or too slow, or not paying attention at all. :undecided:

Please be careful out there.:)

aln 12-15-2011 09:36 PM

Watch out on Rio Grande Ave

When traveling west on Rio Grande you leave Lake County and enter Sumter at about the Rio Grande family pool. I just saw a sign today the designate the speed limit as 20 MPH. Alot of people leaving SS come down DelMar, turn right on Rio Grande towards Morse. I think it's going to be a place that the establishment will be able to catch alot of speeders.


On another note..... don't give up your right away trying to be nice. It causes indecision on the road. I was stopped at a stop sign today in my CAR and a man in a golf cart stopped on road he didn't have to and signaled for me to go accross the intersection. Nice of him but not the safest approach. Please drive according to the rules of the road.

The Villager II 12-16-2011 04:11 AM

So, the way I see it, if you want to make it safer, and you are on a street NOT OTHERWISE POSTED, if you are in your cart, you should drive in the middle of the car lane and no car will be able to pass you. Now, if you are in one of the rental carts, then you must move over as you can only go 15 MPH. That would be confusing, so lets vote to have all the rental carts install high speed gears to keep traffic flow level. Also, I think we should have all cars equipped with a red light and siren on the top of the car that will go on if they go over 20 MPH triggered by sensors in every car registered in the Villages and embedded into every street that have the new 20 MPH rule, at 10 yard intervals. In reference to bicycles, you could have volunteers at the bottom of every hill or downslope with radar and if one passed by over 20 MPH, they could throw a broom handle into the spokes of the front wheel when they go by or if that is considered unsafe, you could shoot them with paint ball guns with florescent paint to make them show up to the rest of the public; thereby, warning folks of the law breaker. Now, I would also recommend, that if any of these offenders are talking on a cell phone, then you should be allowed to move on to lethal force to take them down in the interest of safety. If they are sucking on a Budweiser, keep your distance and immediately contact homeland security.

graciegirl 12-16-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by English Ivy (Post 429508)
Why do you think you'd be traveling @ 20mph for 2 to 3 consecutive miles? Do you even have any idea which roads are affected by this change? Have you read the information published about this change? Assuming you haven't, here's a link: http://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/P...27&ql=standard

IMO, everybody's getting all bent out of shape over this without really knowing what it's all about.

I agree. Seems like our favorite pastime on this forum is getting bent outa shape.

villages07 12-16-2011 08:04 AM

The aforementioned signs on BV and Rio Grande that say "Speed limit 20mph unless otherwise posted" were posted right where you enter Sumter County from Marion and Lake County respectively. The new "universal" speed limits are only in effect for Sumter County, hence the need to post these signs as you cross the county line.

I would bet there is or will soon be a sign after the "20mph unless..." on Rio Grande that shows the limit for THAT road back to 25 or 30 or whatever it currently is, just as BV will remain 35.

Remember, these 20mph limits are primarily targeted at residential neighborhoods ... main thoroughfares like BV and Morse and Belvedere and Canal and O'Dell and Bailey Trail, etc will remain at the 25/30/35 that they currently are.

Please don't confuse the issue any further.... you won't be driving 20mph on Morse or Canal.

NJblue 12-16-2011 08:06 AM

I understand that most roads will not change since they are already posted - including the 15 MPH limit on our street. However, the existing posting is almost nonexistent in some cases. For example, Canal St. - I had a discussion with a neighbor about how the new law would impact the limit for Canal. She claimed that it would become 20 MPH since it was not marked. I thought that it was marked and then began looking for signs. I may have missed one or some, but the only one I saw was coming southbound out of Sumter Landing and it stated 30 MPH. With such lack of posting, I can see where this new law will create Florida's unfriendliest (and unsafest) town with some people crawling along at 20 MPH, thinking that is the limit, and others crawling up their butt because they are driving so slowly.

paulandjean 12-16-2011 08:16 AM

Sounds like a lot of confusion, You are going to fast, No, You are going to slow. Personally I think everything is fine the way it was. Leave signs alone. No one is driving to fast in their carts. I do not have a problem,wish people would speed up a little in their carts, IMHO

babyjayne 12-16-2011 09:16 AM

I have seen cars passing my house going at least twice the speed of carts in a 25mph zone. Now the police will have a tool to judge the speed of cars. Cars should not be passing the carts!

njbchbum 12-16-2011 09:47 AM

sounds to me that the officials of sumter county have found something else to fix that wasn't broken...just sayin', ya know?

memason 12-16-2011 09:59 AM

Just not sure why we are such safety extremists, here in TV. In my entire life, I have never lived in a place with such low speed limits, yet we are still talking of driving too fast (at 20 or 25mph ????) and how dangerous it is on TV streets.

I believe speed limits can be too low... We have passed that threshold, in my opinion.

Bogie Shooter 12-16-2011 11:07 AM

In the announcement of the speed limit changes; included the information that all signage will be changed beginning in January 2012. Are some gettng the cart befor the horse.
Also,isn't it true that if the speed limit is 25 most are driving 28-32 and the same at the other limits?

villages07 12-16-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 429652)
sounds to me that the officials of sumter county have found something else to fix that wasn't broken...just sayin', ya know?

I think what was broken was the inconsistency in neighborhood speed limits in Sumter county.

Neighborhoods from Bridgeport at Lake Sumter southward have a 15mph speed limit, which, IMO, is way too slow.

From BLS northward, neighborhoods are predominantly 25mph.

Villa neighborhoods have their own limits.

Jim 9922 12-16-2011 12:38 PM

Wrap us all in bubble wrap so we all are protected from everything and nothing is our responsibility or fault and nobody else's either and everybody is perfect. We'll all sit around in our perfect bubbles in our perfect world waiting for our perfect lives to end in some perfect manner. No more worring about round-about lane changers, speeders (both car and cart), pooping dogs, youth golf cart drivers, the unsavory youth on the squares, after hours poker players, snippy wait staff, incompetent cart drivers, snowbirds filling up our spaces, etc, etc. BORING
:boxing2:


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