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Dusty_Star 03-12-2024 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2310214)
The red light indicates that the surge protector is on. The green light indicates the ground is on and is working.

Thanks for the reply.

Clarification, does the red mean, service is needed to ground the device? Or does green mean the surge protector is not on?

retiredguy123 03-12-2024 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2310219)
Thanks for the reply.

Clarification, does the red mean, service is needed to ground the device? Or does green mean the surge protector is not on?

The red light means that the surge protector is on, but, if the green light is not on, it means that the surge protector is not connected to a properly grounded outlet, and the surge protector will not function properly. Both lights should be on.

Pugchief 03-12-2024 12:03 PM

You can buy one on Amazon for about $40. I'll bet you can find an electrician to install it for a lot less than $355.

retiredguy123 03-12-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2310229)
You can buy one on Amazon for about $40. I'll bet you can find an electrician to install it for a lot less than $355.

Maybe less, but not a lot less.

Dusty_Star 03-12-2024 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2310224)
The red light means that the surge protector is on, but, if the green light is not on, it means that the surge protector is not connected to a properly grounded outlet, and the surge protector will not function properly. Both lights should be on.

Thank you!!!!

Rwirish 03-13-2024 04:54 AM

The option to purchase has always been available.

asianthree 03-13-2024 05:06 AM

When our pool was installed electrician had a yes/no offer install for surge protector. Cost was $305 at build.

If we need warranty service on equipment second question is do you have a surge protector?

FredMitchell 03-13-2024 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2310182)
... I don't know anyone who has benefitted from this SECO deal.

A nice example of the hasty generalization fallacy. What's worse is, you might even know someone who had the breaker trip and reset it. If he didn't mention it to you, or if you forgot, you actually did know someone who needed it.

Absence of Evidence does not mean Evidence of Absence.

Just because you don't know of an example in your limited experience does not mean that it is even uncommon.

My brother's life was saved by wearing seatbelts. They save many lives. But probably lots of people don't personally know someone who is alive because of wearing one.

Altavia 03-13-2024 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2310211)
Does anyone know the difference between the red & the green light on these devices? I see my neighbors have them, & some have a green light & some have a red light. (I don't have one, yet.)

Diagnostic LED’s: Green indicates surge protection is active, Red indicates protection is no longer active

Altavia 03-13-2024 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces (Post 2310123)
Am I the only SECO customer that pays $5.95 a month for a surge lease?
Which I've been doing for over six years.
I just called, and, Good News! I can simply buy the damn thing for $350 right now.
That stings, knowing I've waisted hundreds all ready.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...hwhile-342833/

Payback is close to 5 years. If there is a power surge, they replace it at no cost.

What are you going to do with the 20 cents a day you save starting five years from now?

And, $500 invested with 5% annual interest have grown to $638.
You will have earned $138 in interest which will pay two more years monthly fees.

retiredguy123 03-13-2024 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2310433)
Diagnostic LED’s: Green indicates surge protection is active, Red indicates protection is no longer active

Apparently, it depends on the type of surge protector you have.

retiredguy123 03-13-2024 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2310457)
considering your statement. YES. I'm more amazed you've waster hundreds yet you are going ot spend hundreds to BUY something that is useless.....amazing

I agree. I have a problem with a company that spends millions of dollars to design and build an electrical distribution system, and then asks their customers to pay an extra $5.95 per month for a cheap device to attach to the meter that they say is needed to protect your appliances. If the device is important, why don't they just incorporate it into the meter in the first place? It sounds like a scam to me.

gorillarick 03-13-2024 07:34 AM

SECO Surge Mitigator: Not just surge protection, insurance - damaged appliances, etc.
 
So for $5.95 a month, you are also getting insurance and a warranty for the device.

Yes, you can buy a surge protector and have it added to your box. But it has a warranty, and no longer insurance for your devices after expiration.

That's the route I went before moving here. I installed myself. If you have to pay an electrician, you've blown years of $5.95 per month coverage.

From SECO website: Surge MitiGator – SECO Energy CLICK "warranty"
"MTI’s liability, per occurrence, will not exceed $5,000 to any one (1) specific
device or appliance with a maximum of $500,000 over the life of this warranty.
Upon evaluation, you will be notified of the status of your warranty assessment.
If it is determined that you are entitled to compensation, you will be given either
the fair market value of the damaged equipment immediately preceding the
failure, reimbursed for reasonably incurred repairs, or paid the cost of
reasonable estimated repairs, at the discretion of MTI, up to the cap set forth
above. Determination of fair market value will be at MTI’s sole discretion."

retiredguy123 03-13-2024 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillarick (Post 2310484)
So for $5.95 a month, you are also getting insurance and a warranty for the device.

Yes, you can buy a surge protector and have it added to your box. But it has a warranty, and no longer insurance for your devices after expiration.

That's the route I went before moving here. I installed myself. If you have to pay an electrician, you've blown years of $5.95 per month coverage.

From SECO website: Surge MitiGator – SECO Energy CLICK "warranty"
"MTI’s liability, per occurrence, will not exceed $5,000 to any one (1) specific
device or appliance with a maximum of $500,000 over the life of this warranty.
Upon evaluation, you will be notified of the status of your warranty assessment.
If it is determined that you are entitled to compensation, you will be given either
the fair market value of the damaged equipment immediately preceding the
failure, reimbursed for reasonably incurred repairs, or paid the cost of
reasonable estimated repairs, at the discretion of MTI, up to the cap set forth
above. Determination of fair market value will be at MTI’s sole discretion."

Did you read the "exclusions" clause in the warranty/insurance? Almost everything you own is excluded from coverage. For example, it doesn't even cover a damaged wall outlet, or any appliance with a computer chip. What appliance doesn't use a computer chip?

Andyb 03-13-2024 07:43 AM

Buy it from an electrician and get a better unit at a lower price.


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