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mixsonci 12-12-2018 02:10 PM

I just tried to open it and it says video no longer available due to copyright by TV of Lady Lake

twoplanekid 12-12-2018 02:13 PM

Oldie (Dec. 1996) found on the wayback machine site ->The Villages
Same site (Feb. 2000) -> Designer Homes
and from (Aug. 2005) -> Welcome to The Villages - The retirement lifestyle you've been dreaming about
one more Feb 2009 -> The Villages - Lifestyle

Nucky 12-12-2018 03:22 PM

I'm O.K. with it, not that it matters but does anyone know why they wouldn't want this to be seen. It was fantastic.

manaboutown 12-12-2018 03:45 PM

My guess is the copyright/trademark/trade name ownership entity of 'The Villages' assiduously polices its intellectual property.

eweissenbach 12-12-2018 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1606995)
I'm O.K. with it, not that it matters but does anyone know why they wouldn't want this to be seen. It was fantastic.

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 1605609)
For those of us interested in the history of The Villages I have to wonder why the Morse family hasn't made videos like this readily available for viewing? I would have to think there has to be many more stored away somewhere documenting the development & growth of TV over the years. Let's see them!

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1605622)
Not to speculate or cast aspersions, but it may be because they don't really want to share things that feature family members who no longer are involved in the development. There may have been some "palace intrigue" involved and some hard feelings. Again, that is pure speculation, but it is interesting that the Gary Morse tree is credited with founding TV along with Harold, while this video would seem to imply that it was a more widespread family venture in the beginning.

What happened to Uncle Bob and Aunt Connie?

champion6 12-12-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1607003)
What happened to Uncle Bob and Aunt Connie?

Are you possibly asking about Karnie?

Harold and wife Bernice had a daughter Karen (Karnie) Schwartz-Hicks. According to an Ocala Star-Banner article written when Harold died in 2003, she precede Harold in death.

VApeople 12-12-2018 06:24 PM

This is the video that convinced us to move here!

What It's Like To Live In A Retirement Community (The Villages, Florida) - YouTube

EviesGP 12-12-2018 09:03 PM

I think it's totally tragic that they removed this video??? I/we are about to buy/move there(just spent 2 1/2 months there), and love to see/hear the nostalgia? What is there to hide??? Just sad!

manaboutown 12-12-2018 09:28 PM

'They' may or may not be 'hiding' anything but they appear to be protecting their intellectual property.

graciegirl 12-12-2018 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EviesGP (Post 1607078)
I think it's totally tragic that they removed this video??? I/we are about to buy/move there(just spent 2 1/2 months there), and love to see/hear the nostalgia? What is there to hide??? Just sad!

????

This reminds me of people protesting when the buffalo went away. Things change.

eweissenbach 12-13-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1607087)
????

This reminds me of people protesting when the buffalo went away. Things change.

Apples and Oranges! The bison were determined to be a liability risk and they were a tangible asset to many residents. This video is simply a piece of nostalgia and something they used in marketing the development many years ago. I know of your devotion to the developers and I agree for the most part - they have created a wonderful place and done it better than anyone who ever tried before. However, they are human beings and thus imperfect, as are we all. I see no reason that they would pull this other than they want to preserve the narrative about how it all came to be. That narrative seems to be that Harold was a man with little vision, but to have a nice trailer park in order to get rid of land he owned, when son Gary came in and he along with his family, transformed it into the amazing place it has become. By the time this video was made the narrative seems to be that Harold was no more than the glad handing elder statesman, and not the driving force he appears to be in the video. No mention is made of Harold's daughter and her husband, who seem to be a pretty vital force in the development at that time according again to the video. It doesn't bother me that they seem to want this hidden, it's there property, but I sense a bit of overreach in maintaining control over the "story". I was excited when I found this and wanted to share it because I thought it was great fun to look back at the "early days" and see how things, and prices, had changed. For some reason the developers don't see it that way and that is too bad.

Bay Kid 12-14-2018 09:19 AM

It is a shame they had to pull the video. It is history. Oh well.

Carla B 12-14-2018 01:25 PM

Yes, too bad. I suppose it proves that they monitor TOTV.

billethkid 12-14-2018 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1607501)
Yes, too bad. I suppose it proves that they monitor TOTV.

I suppose the could but suggest they do not.
It could have been as simple as someone sending to a Morse family member like many of us did to ours.

What has become apparent over the 15 years we have been here is the long arm of the legal support TV has and how many things have changed for liability, copyright/etc.
Liability concerns made the buffalo go, and the new years eve celebration at the squares/etc.
It happens to every small or family entity that grows and takes on a legal staff....that has to earn it's billing hours.

Yes it is a shame they have decided for legal reasons to pull the video. For practical reasons there was no threat from those of us who enjoyed it and wanted to share it.

An unfortunate reality of the time and day we live in.


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