Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096283)

After paying the required Amenity Fee, add the Trail Fees of about $144 a year and the free golf ain’t so free. If you play two rounds every weekend the “free golf” costs you almost $24 per round on the Executive courses.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096283)

After paying the required Amenity Fee, add the Trail Fees of about $144 a year and the free golf ain’t so free. If you play two rounds every weekend the “free golf” costs you almost $24 per round on the Executive courses.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2096478)

How about the third option that most Villagers take: Pay the amenity and trail fees and enjoy your golf.

Now for some remedial math:

Cost of maintaining a golf course, according to the CSGA, varies from $80,000 to close to $ 2 million/year depending on location and the course. The average is $500,000/year for a full 18 hole championship course in very good condition, or $250,000 for a 9 hole course. Our 9 hole exec courses are less than 1/2 of the length of nine holes on those courses, but the most expensive parts of a course to maintain are bunkers and greens, so let's go high and say it costs $200,000/ year to maintain each of our execs. So, 44 execs x $200,000/year = $8.8 million/year.

On the income side-----approx. 65,000 homes in TV paying about $170/MONTH amenity fees: 65,000 x 170 x 12 = $ 132.6 million/year. 8.8/132.6 = 6.6% of the amenity fee going to golf (far from 100%). We can debate these numbers a little, but they are certainly well in the ballpark, so I doubt more than 10% of the amenity fee goes for exec golf.

So.....$170/month x 6.6% = $11.22/month or $134.64/year, then add $144 trail fee (if using cart) for $278.86/year divided by 104 rounds = $2.68/round , or only $1.29/round if walking and playing twice a week-----this is the real cost of "free" golf, far from $24/round. Play 4x/ week and those costs go to $1.34 and $0.65 respectively.

(mike drop):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by ldovermiller (Post 2096493)

Why do we pay a trail fee when the residents own the exec courses? Where does the trail fee really go or should I say "whose pocket".

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096283)

After paying the required Amenity Fee, add the Trail Fees of about $144 a year and the free golf ain’t so free. If you play two rounds every weekend the “free golf” costs you almost $24 per round on the Executive courses.

Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2096359)

You'd better have good health insurance. Walking many of the execs., especially in the summer, is an invitation for a heart attack or heat stroke. The execs are not routed with older golfer in mind. Walk the championship courses? Maybe if you're a tri-athlete. I wonder if this was poor course design or marketing strategy.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096283)

After paying the required Amenity Fee, add the Trail Fees of about $144 a year and the free golf ain’t so free. If you play two rounds every weekend the “free golf” costs you almost $24 per round on the Executive courses.

Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 2096550)

Everything should be FREE!

Originally Posted by ldovermiller (Post 2096493)

Why do we pay a trail fee when the residents own the exec courses? Where does the trail fee really go or should I say "whose pocket".

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096283)

After paying the required Amenity Fee, add the Trail Fees of about $144 a year and the free golf ain’t so free. If you play two rounds every weekend the “free golf” costs you almost $24 per round on the Executive courses.

Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2096439)

You forgot to add the cost of your Home, Taxes, Insurance, etc. The free golf is a lot cheaper after deduct all these expenses on your income tax.

Originally Posted by Oldragbagger (Post 2096581)

We attend a “free” yoga class every week.

Originally Posted by ldovermiller (Post 2096493)

Why do we pay a trail fee when the residents own the exec courses? Where does the trail fee really go or should I say "whose pocket".

Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2096497)

For all the whiners: I am still waiting to meet the person whose sales agent held a gun to their head while signing their closing documents. If you walk around with a Virginia ham under each arm, would you complain that you have no bread?

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096607)

That is correct. If you choose to walk in the hot Florida temps.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096283)

After paying the required Amenity Fee, add the Trail Fees of about $144 a year and the free golf ain’t so free. If you play two rounds every weekend the “free golf” costs you almost $24 per round on the Executive courses.

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2096623)

A friend of mine goes to yoga classes - she pays $150 a month just for yoga!

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096283)

After paying the required Amenity Fee, add the Trail Fees of about $144 a year and the free golf ain’t so free. If you play two rounds every weekend the “free golf” costs you almost $24 per round on the Executive courses.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096283)

After paying the required Amenity Fee, add the Trail Fees of about $144 a year and the free golf ain’t so free. If you play two rounds every weekend the “free golf” costs you almost $24 per round on the Executive courses.

Originally Posted by deputydoc (Post 2096805)

There always has to be someone that comes on here with false information and tries to stir the pot. I just can’t figure why people insist on being pot stirrers😠

Originally Posted by deputydoc (Post 2096805)

There always has to be someone that comes on here with false information and tries to stir the pot. I just can’t figure why people insist on being pot stirrers😠

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2096416)

If you pay $164 a month for the amenities and you pay $12 a month for the trail fee, you are paying $176 a month. If you play 8 times a month, you would be paying $22 a round for golf. However, the amenity fee pays for more than golf so assume that 50% is for golf and the rest of it is goes to everything else - pools, rec centers, landscaping, walking trails, golf cart trails, you would be paying $11 a round. However, if you play more than twice a week, the cost per round goes down.

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2096283)

After paying the required Amenity Fee, add the Trail Fees of about $144 a year and the free golf ain’t so free. If you play two rounds every weekend the “free golf” costs you almost $24 per round on the Executive courses.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2096285)

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2096851)

So you are disagreeing with someone about the cost of golf — that is your prerogative.

But to use a tragic disease as a tool of mockery is beyond thoughtless. The smug, cold, calculating allusion to the statement from the Alzheimer’s Association is an attempt to be funny, I guess. But not only is it obnoxious, it is cruel. Many here probably know someone who is saying, “The Long Goodbye.” There is nothing funny about it.

Then a bunch of posters line up underneath the post to say, “Thank you.” ???

A line has been crossed. That was not wit. That was completely out of bounds.

Boomer

Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 2096829)

SOOOOO, in 2020 I played over 1200 rounds of golf on execs and championships, this would make me WAY AHEAD of the round costs...
Woooohoooo
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