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Laker14 12-15-2022 07:17 AM

there are numerous threads on the subject of ethanol-free, vs. ethanol gas, and while I appreciate everyone's opinion, for reasons of my own, I have decided that in my cart I will use ethanol free if I can find it. I won't lose sleep over a tank of ethanol gas in my cart, but I prefer to run ethanol-free.

I'm going to try the Sumter station again today and see if it was just a brief shut-down due to the power failure.

Thanks for the information.

tophcfa 12-15-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2166517)
A simple occasional added fuel injector cleaner will clean it perfectly,

That will work with an EFI, but not so well with a older carburetor engine. However, weather you use fuel injector cleaner or a fuel stabilizer with E10, neither is as good as simply using ethanol free gas. To those who insist on using E10 gas that are not full timers, you never have a problem right up until when you do. It’s cheap insurance for the piece of mind of knowing when you show up at your villages home after an extended absence, your golf cart will run without issues (assuming your battery is adequately charged).

midiwiz 12-15-2022 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2166463)
OP, you are throwing your money away, look at your owners manual, most if not all state E10 gas for these. I have been using this gas (aka regular) in our 2017 Yamaha EFI cart since we bought it with no problems. Probably saved a couple of hundred dollars.

absoutely! and also if you use 89 vs 87 the smell will go away

snsaneholtz@gmail.com 12-15-2022 07:31 AM

Ethonel free gas
 
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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2166437)
I have always purchased my golf cart gas at the Villages Golf Carts pumps in Sumter. I went there today and the pumps were out of order. No information was available as to when they might be back in service.

Are there any other pumps around that have ethanol-free gas?

Both Circle K stations at Rohan and Pinellas has gas for carts

NoMo50 12-15-2022 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Williams (Post 2166513)
Regular fuel has ethanol which will let the cart run but it will eat the fuel line and let it become blocked

No, it won't do that. In the early days of ethanol blend fuel, there were issues with degradation of some rubber compounds, primarily in marine applications. This was typically seen in boats that sat for long periods of time, with the ethanol fuel being in static contact with rubber components not designed for it.

Nowadays, virtually every vehicle manufacturer designs engines to be operated with ethanol blended fuel, including Yamaha golf carts. The Yamaha owner's manual clearly states it is acceptable to use regular grade ethanol fuel. That said, if I had an older, carbuerated cart that sat for long periods of time, I would use ethanol-free just to be safe. If running a newer EFI cart, regular fuel is fine.

RICH1 12-15-2022 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2166498)
I would agree with that if you are a full time resident and your cart never sits without being used for extended periods of time. However, if your cart goes for extended periods of time without use, trying to save a few bucks on E10 gas can wind up costing you some significant money, time, and aggravation if it gums up your fuel delivery system. Plus, ethanol free gas burns better and gets you a little bit higher MPG. I can’t remember how many carburetors in seasonal use small engines I have had to disassemble, clean out, and rebuild over the years because of gas containing ethanol.

What is this thing you call Carburetor? OP The fuel injection system and lines are made for diluted ethanol gasoline… this is 2022

Catalina36 12-15-2022 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2166498)
I would agree with that if you are a full time resident and your cart never sits without being used for extended periods of time. However, if your cart goes for extended periods of time without use, trying to save a few bucks on E10 gas can wind up costing you some significant money, time, and aggravation if it gums up your fuel delivery system. Plus, ethanol free gas burns better and gets you a little bit higher MPG. I can’t remember how many carburetors in seasonal use small engines I have had to disassemble, clean out, and rebuild over the years because of gas containing ethanol.

When I leave the villages for any extended time I use "TRU-FUEL" purchased at Ace Hardware, Home Depot or Lowes. A Engineered fuel ethenol free. Last for 2 years as per the manufacturer. I also use it in my small Honda outboard up north runs great.

JMintzer 12-15-2022 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2166537)
That will work with an EFI, but not so well with a older carburetor engine. However, weather you use fuel injector cleaner or a fuel stabilizer with E10, neither is as good as simply using ethanol free gas. To those who insist on using E10 gas that are not full timers, you never have a problem right up until when you do. It’s cheap insurance for the piece of mind of knowing when you show up at your villages home after an extended absence, your golf cart will run without issues (assuming your battery is adequately charged).

Yup. Since we're not yet "Frogs", I try to by the Rec Gas... Plus, I always add a bit of Sta-Bil to my tank when I'm away... So far, so good...

MX rider 12-15-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2166546)
No, it won't do that. In the early days of ethanol blend fuel, there were issues with degradation of some rubber compounds, primarily in marine applications. This was typically seen in boats that sat for long periods of time, with the ethanol fuel being in static contact with rubber components not designed for it.

Nowadays, virtually every vehicle manufacturer designs engines to be operated with ethanol blended fuel, including Yamaha golf carts. The Yamaha owner's manual clearly states it is acceptable to use regular grade ethanol fuel. That said, if I had an older, carbuerated cart that sat for long periods of time, I would use ethanol-free just to be safe. If running a newer EFI cart, regular fuel is fine.

100% correct.

I have 2 motocross bikes (Kawasaki and KTM), as I still love to ride and have for many years. One is 2021 fuel injected 4 stroke and the other is a 2019 2 stroke with a carb. I run normal pump gas in both, as I have in all my bikes over the years.

I've never had an issue with fuel, and they're both much more high tech than a Yamaha golf cart. And here in Indiana my bikes sit for months over the winter. I may start them once or twice over that period.
All modern engines are designed to use gas with ethanol. That's a fact!
It won't degrade the rubber as you accurately stated or cause any issues. Thats a myth!

No need to spend the extra money.

Notsocrates 12-15-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2166463)
OP, you are throwing your money away, look at your owners manual, most if not all state E10 gas for these. I have been using this gas (aka regular) in our 2017 Yamaha EFI cart since we bought it with no problems. Probably saved a couple of hundred dollars.

Agree, with an exception. If the cart will be unused for a long time (+3 months), top it up with 1 or more ethanol-free petrol

OhioBuckeye 12-15-2022 09:45 AM

Don’t know but maybe one of the other golf cart dealers have some. Otherwise you’ll have to use what our administration has left, the gas that’s in our reserves until it all gone, then we’ll have to use what Russia & the other foreign countries are selling us. Don’t know what else to tell you unless you go EV.

tophcfa 12-15-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MX rider (Post 2166575)
100% correct.

I have 2 motocross bikes (Kawasaki and KTM), as I still love to ride and have for many years. One is 2021 fuel injected 4 stroke and the other is a 2019 2 stroke with a carb. I run normal pump gas in both, as I have in all my bikes over the years.

I've never had an issue with fuel, and they're both much more high tech than a Yamaha golf cart. And here in Indiana my bikes sit for months over the winter. I may start them once or twice over that period.
All modern engines are designed to use gas with ethanol. That's a fact!
It won't degrade the rubber as you accurately stated or cause any issues. Thats a myth!

No need to spend the extra money.

I have had to rebuild the carburetor in my Kawasaki KLR650 twice in the spring after storing it for the winter with gas containing ethanol. For the last few years I started running the bike dry and then removed the carburetor bowl to completely drain it before storage. Since I started doing that there hasn’t been any issues.

mtdjed 12-15-2022 10:22 AM

So what is a modern cart? Mine was a Yesterday built in 2005 probably with a prior year engine. I use mid-grade gas (with Ethanol). Still runs today. Tomorrow???

Professor 12-15-2022 11:57 AM

7-11 over at Colony Plaza has Ethanol-Free gas. Use the Red handled pumps.

DARFAP 12-15-2022 12:42 PM

As of Tuesday, the Brownwood pumps were down to one side of one pump working. I have purchased eth-free at the former Marathon, now Circle K at Pinellas Plaza.


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