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Bill14564 09-22-2023 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2259511)
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NOT wise at all. Apparently ignorant of the facts. Laws are NOT perfect. And can be overridden, amended, or cancelled. I would like to see the "State or Federal law" that dictates that gates arms in local areas cannot have a light or sign to alert drivers. If there actually is - again - Stupid.

All you have to do is look. Try the MUTCD Section 2B.68

Laws may not be perfect but only a fool would think the Villages or Sumter County can override, amend, or cancel Federal regulations - it just doesn't work that way.

By the way, if you have a good idea that just might be legal, showing up at a PWAC meeting and proposing it is a good place to start and far more effective than calling local authorities ignorant.

JMintzer 09-22-2023 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2259488)
That is doubtful. I have yet to see someone say they hit a gate because they couldn't see it. From what has been reported by the District, seen by other drivers, or recorded in some few video clips, many (most?) gate strikes are due to attempting to get through a gate by following too closely to the vehicle ahead. Visibility isn't going to help when the gate comes down on the top of the vehicle.

Shhh... Don't confuse them with facts...

Boffin 09-22-2023 09:12 PM

A majority
 
When, if ever, a majority of folks living in the villages have a problem with the gates changes might be made. As for the minority of whiners about gate problems too bad.

dhdallas 09-22-2023 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2259326)
These ones in Corsica have red lights on them that turn green when the barrier lifts and it is safe to proceed

The gates are a marketing tool for TV & also so John & Karen can brag to their friends back home that they live in a gated community (which it isn't). A speed bump would work better.

Now everyone who lives here knows that there is a gate arm when going out and another gate arm coming back. If your dementia is so far advanced that you forget that fact and you need flashing lights and more bright colors to remind you, then you should not be allowed to drive. Wearing "Beer Goggles" doesn't help.

Rwirish 09-23-2023 05:18 AM

Slow down at the gates, pay attention and only one car thru the gate at a time. Problem solved.

MikeN 09-23-2023 05:42 AM

Gates being hit
 
I don’t get it but I’m old. Aren’t there cameras that capture a vehicle that has hit a gate? Are they being hit by contractors with tall bodies, people just cutting through the area or impatient residents ? Seems to be an easy fix IF the cameras actually work.
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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2259326)
These ones in Corsica have red lights on them that turn green when the barrier lifts and it is safe to proceed


john352 09-23-2023 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2259326)
These ones in Corsica have red lights on them that turn green when the barrier lifts and it is safe to proceed

If you want to see good light gates, visit the Stonecrest community located north of the Walmart on 441. We live in The Villages and have had several dinners at Cheers located within Stonecrest; they usually have live entertainment for dinner.

Joecool 09-23-2023 06:22 AM

Its not like its hidden and the approach is 5 MPH.

TEXJK 09-23-2023 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 2259610)
The gates are a marketing tool for TV & also so John & Karen can brag to their friends back home that they live in a gated community (which it isn't). A speed bump would work better.

Now everyone who lives here knows that there is a gate arm when going out and another gate arm coming back. If your dementia is so far advanced that you forget that fact and you need flashing lights and more bright colors to remind you, then you should not be allowed to drive. Wearing "Beer Goggles" doesn't help.

Bullseye on the beer goggles lol

merrymini 09-23-2023 06:37 AM

This problem is solved, do not let your friend drive when blind.

retiredguy123 09-23-2023 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by john352 (Post 2259636)
If you want to see good light gates, visit the Stonecrest community located north of the Walmart on 441. We live in The Villages and have had several dinners at Cheers located within Stonecrest; they usually have live entertainment for dinner.

I've been to Cheers a few times, but they still don't know my name.

Dilligas 09-23-2023 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2259326)
These ones in Corsica have red lights on them that turn green when the barrier lifts and it is safe to proceed

The only full proof gates I’ve seen were in Sarasota-Bradenton at a gate that is unmanned most of the 24 hours. It had two consecutive gates that were about 20 yards apart, controlled by passes. The 1st would open to go through, but the 2nd would not open until the 1st was completely closed. Supposedly to prevent piggybacking but I’d guess they still get hit at times.

Windguy 09-23-2023 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2259437)
But there will be a wire connected to the arm to power the lights, so the wire will be ripped out when you crash the gate...not a good thing.

That could easily be solved by using magnetic connectors so the wire disconnects when the arm breaks off.

Rzepecki 09-23-2023 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2259435)
Perhaps the best way to implement this solution would be for those who feel they are likely to hit the gates to move to Corsica.

:agree:

JMintzer 09-23-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by john352 (Post 2259636)
If you want to see good light gates, visit the Stonecrest community located north of the Walmart on 441. We live in The Villages and have had several dinners at Cheers located within Stonecrest; they usually have live entertainment for dinner.

How many sets of gates does Stonecrest have? 1 set for each "village" that are separated by regular roads?

You can't use a golf cart to travel between the "villages" there...

I have a friend who lives in Mirasol, in Palm Beach Gardens. The have the lighted gates. They only have entry and exit gates at two places, both with manned guard shacks, where you have to stop and let them know who you are visiting...

4 sets of gates are a lot easier to manage than the hundreds we have in TV...


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