Pretty sure I would rather have a nice flow of traffic with traffic circles than the huge backup on 466 and Morse that happens every day with the light.

OK understand the value but why do some gates have attendants and many do not?

Rocinante mcrn
 

it's the inners vs the belters

and it sure ain't golden. Always expecting troy and his swamp boat to come roaring by

I like the maned gates they make our Villages safer. Eyes on the ground.

There is a sign at the gate that says push red button for entry “Just go by Stu’s house if you need directions “

Let’s hope gate attendants are not eliminated.

Better yet, enforce the one car thru the gate at a time ( the gate closes every 5 seconds as posted ).

I would like to have the barcode entrance. We had them in Kingsmill in Williamsburg, Virginia and they worked great. Also they would know exactly who was entering and when as the barcodes are identifiers. Gate cards aren't that exclusive.
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As the roads in the Villages are public, everyone is allowed to use them thus access is not exclusive. At the gates, pictures are taken to help identify persons of interest if needed by law enforcement.

Tv
 

The Villages in general is very short of staff currently with many gate attendant, patrol drive and recreational assistant positions open. With starting pay at $10 an hour, it will only get worse.

Absolutely agree that traffic circles slow down traffic. I don't usually see vehicles traveling at 35 to 40 MPH around a traffic circle.

Out of all the comments yours makes the best sense. Just my opinion, but then again I don’t live there anymore!

My only issue with Some attendants, is they Don't control the flow of cars. When the resident goes through the gate, the attendant doesn't hold the Visitor's car's to pause for a few to let the one car go through the gate at a time. Same with pausing them when the golf cart is crossing.

That is fine but watch out for our attack bunny rabbit. He can be vicious or even worse

Personally I like the manned gates. I have always found the attendants friendly and like one poster said helpful with giving visitors directions when needed. As far as suggesting they are there “profiling” people, I don’t believe that is why they are there but I have no problem if they are. Hell I hope they are, lol.

If the attendents are there to control cars and golf carts, then the attendents at the 466 & Morse gate needs some instruction. I take Morse to go south in my cart at least three time per week. The attendents has never looked to see if carts are waiting to turn left on the cart path and stop both lanes of cars so carts can cross. You have to make a mad dash to keep from getting run over. At times cars speed up to try and keep the carts from crossing. If something doesn't change, there will be someone or more than one, killed at that location The attendents needs to look and see if there are carts waiting to turn left onto the cart path

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With no Roci to blast the free navy.

Maps??? I’ve never seen a map on any of the gates I’ve been through.

Some gates have green buttons.

gate guards
 

I deduce that most gate houses and guards are there for the same reason golf courses have wooden three rail fences around them: They look good, and Villagers like them. They are not functional. In fact, if someone wanted to design an entrance to cause as many golf cart / automobile accidents as possible, you would do exactly what we do. Golf carts cross roads behind the guard shack. The gate guard never knows if a golf cart is trying to cross the road. The guard shack obstructs the view of drivers looking for crossing carts but that seems not bad enough. The Villages erects large village signs to further obstruct driver's vision of crossing traffic. There are a lot of mechanical ways to make the crossing safer. Including removing guard shacks and village signs and closing the gate after every car, or a sensing mechanism that causes a brief yield light to come on every time a cart approaches.

Don't pick this suggestion apart. The point is, there are many possible ways to make gate crossings safer and cheaper. We Villagers, however, LIKE it the way it is. If it is a little less safe and more expensive, that is a cost we are willing to pay.

They now have access to the internet at the gate shacks.

Why Manned and Unmanned Gates?
 

Why Manned and Unmanned Gates?
Originally there were manned gates allowing visitors on the manned side and residents, with an access card, on the unmanned side access. All unmanned gates allowed residents only. There was no red-button access. This concept gave The Villages the appearance of being a secure, gate-restricted community. Another “misconception” created by the developer to enhance its marketing objectives. So, why the red buttons? Some years ago, The Villages was hit by a tornado that caused severe damage to Mallory Hills and nearby areas. FEMA was called in to assist with recovery and in the process discovered the “misconception.” That The Villages is not a non-political subdivision with private streets and roads, but rather a collection of special-purpose municipalities (CDDs) with public streets and roads. A municipality restricting access by the public. Unthinkable, right? Wrong. According, FEMA announced that if The Villages continued to restrict access by the public, it would not be able to assist with any future natural or man-made disasters. The developer responded by installing the red buttons which minimizes the restriction.

just wondering

The staffed gate houses are controlled by deed restrictions. Read your deed.

I feel the same way about the Community Standards vehicles that drive around..........and DO whatever they are supposed to do.

And that is because the roads are all public roads, not private roads. So, this is NOT a truly gated community with all the benefits of security that would entail. The Villages system and largeness has MANY advantages, but like any system, there are also disadvantages.

That's a good comment. I can believe that. It's like having a passive and low-cost traffic cop.

Traffic circles, likely, cost less than red lights and don't break down as much. Another advantage of a continuous slow flow of traffic is that start and stop traffic means momentum starting and stopping - which would use more fuel, cause more pollution, and may (?) cause more driver frustration and therefore accidents. Another advantage is that the circles make TV Land look like a peaceful, idealic, small town. And flowers are prettier than red lights.

Gates
 

How about we take the gates down and put up speed bumps. You would save money on keep putting the gates back up. Stop the back ups.

That wouldn't help in slowing down traffic for the golf carts to cross...

True. And gates also aid home sales because they give an illusion of privacy, as in "we belong to private, exclusive club and it's pretty affordable. The gates also give the illusion of keeping out crime and the general "riff / raff".

Not the lights problem. There need to be more lanes in a lot of areas in TV Land. Traffic is especially bad in the winter

No such thing as a Community Standards vehicle.

Please provide source of all this FEMA information.

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Long ago they were there and them removed.

Still wondering why some villages have the house and many do not.

Maybe habitat can build some.:icon_wink:

Maybe in your fantasy world, but not in the real world...

Rolling, rolling, rolling keep.....
 

i agree. The friendly gate keepers express a visitor/ buyers first hand experience with " america's friendliest home town' concept

An expanse fan.........cool