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Stu from NYC 02-24-2021 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RuthA (Post 1907493)
I think painting the gates a different color would help a lot. They are hard to see. Could it be the "developer" likes it when people hit them so they can fine them $250 a pop?

Doesnt the district get the money and use it to repair the arm?

Pairadocs 02-24-2021 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by butch69 (Post 1906747)
I read an article about all the gate guards being knocked down by cart and cars. It listed several distractions that might cause it, but one of the best things they could do is paint the stripes YELLOW instead of red. There is a reason highway stripes are painted yellow and not red. Yellow is the most visible color of all the colors, it is the first color that the human eye notices. Might not solve 100% of the problem but it should cause a dramatic reduction in accidents.

Maybe best said "gate ARMS" not gate "guards"..... but we knew you didn't mean the "guards/ambassadors, just havin' a little fun, not much of that around any more !

Bizdoc 02-25-2021 08:53 AM

Make the gate arms out of structural steel. Will take a couple of weeks for the word to get out that running into them will result in a significant repair bill. After that, folks will start to pay attention.

brfree1411@aol.com 02-25-2021 09:31 AM

Me too! I thought it was the guards.

dhdallas 02-25-2021 09:56 AM

Seriously??
 
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Originally Posted by gwenhwalker@yahoo.com (Post 1907262)
Stop signs would work if positioned correctly for cart passings

Are you kidding? Stop signs WOULD work if people obeyed them. Spend some time watching intersections and see all the carts & bicycles running the stop signs with just a quick (or no) glance to see if it is clear. Fuhgetaboutit!

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...see-me-now.jpg

Bogie Shooter 02-25-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 1907439)
Wait...what are we talking about here? The gates to get in or the gates to get out? Because I thought you had to go one at a time coming in with the card and all of that. But I've been driving out along with the car in front of me for the last year without ever hitting the gate....I thought that was sorta OK?

Joe

Thats piggy backing. What do you do when tailgating and the vehicle ahead has to make an emergency stop? You are putting the driver ahead of you in danger. Why the hell are you in such a big hurry? Or so lazy to scan your card?

Bogie Shooter 02-25-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1907473)
Totally unnecessary is right. How anyone can get by with putting up "gates" and having "guards" called ambassadors on PUBLIC roads I have never figured out ! ? Can any neighborhood in any city in Florida decide to look "private", and just slap up gates, arms, man the "guard houses" and make the public stop to enter their neighborhood ? What would happen if people in Ocala, or Leesburg, just decided to "act" exclusive and slap up some gates... back up traffic a half mile or more only letting ONE car at a time down their street ? Expense for what, the sake of ego of those among us who enjoy the illusion that this is some kind of exclusive enclave ? I don't know, but sure would be nice to turn by the high school and just go over a speed bump or two and drive right to your home without a one, by one, by one line clear to the 4 lane highway of 466. Insanity for sure, what we need is the state saying people can't just slap up gates onto public streets and roads ! Oh, and how many people have the pleasure of (formerly) NOT having to roll their automatic windows up and down all day long, wonder how many expensive repairs per year that costs our residents ! ?

You did not cover golf cart safety in your rant.

Bogie Shooter 02-25-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RuthA (Post 1907493)
I think painting the gates a different color would help a lot. They are hard to see. Could it be the "developer" likes it when people hit them so they can fine them $250 a pop?

Explain how the Developer benefits?

Stu from NYC 02-25-2021 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 1907805)
Are you kidding? Stop signs WOULD work if people obeyed them. Spend some time watching intersections and see all the carts & bicycles running the stop signs with just a quick (or no) glance to see if it is clear. Fuhgetaboutit!

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...see-me-now.jpg

People here think stop signs are a suggestion to slow down a bit, almost nobody comes to a full stop.

Ticket for this and very quickly real estate taxes can get rolled back!:bigbow:

Bill14564 02-25-2021 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1907872)
Thats piggy backing. What do you do when tailgating and the vehicle ahead has to make an emergency stop? You are putting the driver ahead of you in danger. Why the hell are you in such a big hurry? Or so lazy to scan your card?

Define "such a big hurry." I've sat at an open exit gate for about 15 seconds waiting for it to come back down since I "knew" it was supposed to close and open between each car. There was no tailgating, the car in front was well around the circle and the gate was still up. The guy behind me finally let me know he was tired of waiting and he and I and at least one more car exited without the gate closing.

The best I can figure is the exit gate is triggered by a sensor in the road or by motion detection. It will usually (there are always exceptions) see a second vehicle and will not go back down until all vehicles have cleared. It seems the exit gates are designed to allow or encourage "piggy backing."

Bogie Shooter 02-25-2021 01:44 PM

I stand corrected on exit gates, my comments relate to entry gates.

Fastskiguy 02-25-2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1907977)
I stand corrected on exit gates, my comments relate to entry gates.

I didn't know you could sneak thru on entry gates with the car in front of you....do you think that's why some or most or all of the gate damage occurs? It must be the case....who doesn't know there is a gate at every entrance?

Joe

Stu from NYC 02-25-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 1908007)
I didn't know you could sneak thru on entry gates with the car in front of you....do you think that's why some or most or all of the gate damage occurs? It must be the case....who doesn't know there is a gate at every entrance?

Joe

Driving past a gate a little while ago a golf cart did follow a car thru a gate and did must make it thru.

Number 10 GI 02-25-2021 02:51 PM

Lets put up swinging red lights like at rail road crossings. 3 billion lumen lights to brighten the area like a nuclear blast.
Gate guards dressed in neon green suits waving semaphore flags and 5 foot long flash light cones. There would still be gate arms being hit. Why? Because there are a lot of people in TV that have no business driving a motor vehicle. I watched a man at a bank teller machine park just past the machine. He got out of his vehicle and had to brace himself against his SUV so he wouldn't fall and then had to hold onto the teller machine he wouldn't fall. That guy shouldn't be allowed to drive a tricycle let alone a 4,000 lb car.
I don't know how long you have to live here before you can remember that there is a gate arm at the entrances to the different villages. If your memory is that faulty you don't need to be driving. If you CAN remember that there is a gate arm at the entrances but at a distance of a few feet can't see it, get your eyes tested or get off the road.
You could paint the gate arms in dayglow orange and it wouldn't make any difference, it would still get hit by someone who claims that they can't see the color because it isn't dayglow yellow. Color of the arm has no bearing on this problem, impaired or incompetent drivers are the problem.
Instead of hitting a gate arm one day someone might hit a bicycle rider. Oh wait, someone already has and drove off!

Topspinmo 02-25-2021 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1907876)
Explain how the Developer benefits?

Usually when contracting the contractor get 1/2

Topspinmo 02-25-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Trob62 (Post 1907165)
You cannot see the one in Marshbend when the sun comes up in the morning. Nothing wrong with my eyes or driving. When the sun hits those colors in the morning they are invisible until you get abot 15 feet away from it.

But, you know the villages has gates right?

JoMar 02-25-2021 10:03 PM

I have been known to stop at an entry gate when the gate is laying on the ground. Just habit.

Garywt 02-26-2021 08:14 PM

I keep seeing this post and can’t figure out why so many guards are leaving the guard shacks and getting hit. Generally they just sit inside.

theorem painter 02-27-2021 07:12 AM

I agree about the arms being painted yellow. Anyone that knows anything about color theory knows that red (the arm) and green (the landscape) looks like brown. This is true, especially at dusk. The majority of us know the arms are there even if we are blinded by the sun or failing eyesight. Painting them yellow may alleviate some of the problem.


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