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CWGUY 10-22-2019 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1690332)
Everyday this week we had cars come through on our bumper to avoid the gate
:ohdear: There is a sign at each gate saying the gate closes after each vehicle. :popcorn:

CWGUY 10-22-2019 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1690342)
In my opinion the only reason there are gates is to give the impression that this is a gated community. I seriously doubt that golf cart safety was ever considered. The Villages is selling the image of a special lifestyle, therefore the gates are a part of the image.
:ohdear: And IMHO your opinion is wrong. Nobody ever said this was a gated community. The only people that think that didn't do their homework before buying and are now upset..... but not with themselves. Gates ARE there for traffic control. A long time before there ever was a Village of McClure they moved a lot of MM paths from in front of gates to behind gates for safety reasons. :ho:

CWGUY 10-22-2019 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1690310)
Instead of the arms and gates install 4 way stop signs and make them visible for both cars & carts
:1rotfl: Wrong thread..... this is not the joke thread! :clap2:

Barefoot 10-22-2019 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1690343)
It is very easy to suggest a different/better method of card/car reading.
What we have is probably the lowest cost method (not intended as a negative comment).

All the other auto card readers would require a change out of all the equipment at every entry point in TV....plus control center(S).

A significant expenditure to change to a "more convenient" method.

No system will satisfy the users who are for some reason always in a hurry.

Are we ready to have our amenity fees increased to pursue/purchase these new systems?

I for one am not. The current method works just fine.....most of the time.

What is needed in TV is a significant change in enforcement. The reason there are so many "moving violations" in TV.... there is no fear of enforcement.

More ticketing, escalating fines, more enforcement presence......just like the little towns everybody is familiar with....that have 25 mpg speed limits and notorious for enforcement.....everybody slows down to 25....funny how THAT WORKS!!!!
The current system may be outdated.
But like Billethkid, we're not willing to have our amenity fee increased to cover the cost of a new system. :ohdear:

Number 10 GI 10-22-2019 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1690363)
Do you have a golf cart?
What does that have to do with what I said?

Number 10 GI 10-22-2019 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1690386)
:ohdear: And IMHO your opinion is wrong. Nobody ever said this was a gated community. The only people that think that didn't do their homework before buying and are now upset..... but not with themselves. Gates ARE there for traffic control. A long time before there ever was a Village of McClure they moved a lot of MM paths from in front of gates to behind gates for safety reasons. :ho:
Never said it was, but the image TV wants prospective buyers to believe is that is a gated community. And what source can you provide that states the original intent of the gates was for traffic control?

Polar Bear 10-22-2019 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1690402)
...the image TV wants prospective buyers to believe is that is a gated community...
I think that’s an opinion. The nature of the gates was never misrepresented to me.

Bogie Shooter 10-22-2019 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1690401)
What does that have to do with what I said?
Your implying that the gates are not needed suggests you do not own a golf cart. If you did you would understand the lack of gates would force you into some serious circumstances.

Defining a source for gates as traffic control is irrelevant. Common sense would say they are.

coffeebean 10-22-2019 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cgilcreast (Post 1690301)
My card does work with the window closed, but why do we have them in the first place? Doesn't matter who you are, the gate guards open the gate for anyone. Just sayin.
The gates are there to slow down vehicular traffic so the golf carts can proceed on the cart path at the gates. At the present time, the gate cards is the system The Villages has for residents to open the gates.

Some posters, including myself, have voiced a wish for a new system to open the gates. As system that will eliminate the gate cards and allow the driver to go through the gates without ever having to take their hands off the steering wheel. But.......at this point and time, we must live with the gate cards.

JoMar 10-22-2019 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1690407)
I think that’s an opinion. The nature of the gates was never misrepresented to me.
Nor I.....my sales rep made it clear that the gates were for traffic control of golf carts, bikers that use the MMP's, walkers and joggers. Also made it clear that the roads were County roads not the Developers with the exception of the Villas. He was also specific that this was NOT a controlled community and that security was our responsibility, the gates will not keep anyone out. We have been here 5 years and have never seen representation that this was a gated community.

coffeebean 10-22-2019 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cgilcreast (Post 1690301)
My card does work with the window closed, but why do we have them in the first place? Doesn't matter who you are, the gate guards open the gate for anyone. Just sayin.
Not all gates are manned so there is a red button to push to open the gate. If it is pouring rain, you can get a bit soaked just pushing the red button.

retiredguy123 10-22-2019 12:53 PM
When you exit a neighborhood area, you drive up to the gate and it opens automatically. If they wanted to eliminate the cards, they could use the same system at the neighborhood entrances. There would be no reason for any other system.

coffeebean 10-22-2019 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1690332)
Everyday this week we had cars come through on our bumper to avoid the gate
Do it all the time but it is not necessary to ride on the bumper of the car ahead of you. The camera at the gates can "see" you when you are pretty far back. In fact, depending on where you are located, if you sit there waiting for the gate to come down, it won't. It will stay up and bobble a bit but won't come down. That is why I just proceed behind another car through the EXIT gate without the gate coming down.

coffeebean 10-22-2019 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1690342)
In my opinion the only reason there are gates is to give the impression that this is a gated community. I seriously doubt that golf cart safety was ever considered. The Villages is selling the image of a special lifestyle, therefore the gates are a part of the image.
I doesn't take much to realize this is not a true gated community. When a driver can push the red button at an unmanned gate and gain entry, you must realize this is not a gated community. As someone said earlier, this is a community with gates. I will add to that, security is not the reason for the gates. What ever the original reason was for including gates in this community, I think allowing golf carts to proceed onto the golf cart paths at the gates is the one and only positive thing that comes out of having the gate system.

CWGUY 10-22-2019 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1690410)
Your implying that the gates are not needed suggests you do not own a golf cart. If you did you would understand the lack of gates would force you into some serious circumstances.

Defining a source for gates as traffic control is irrelevant. Common sense would say they are.
:confused: What's that..... and is it allowed? :rolleyes:


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