I haven't either and I don't want to say that out loud.

Another poster seems to agree with my idea of MORE installed cameras. If you can't get enough uniformed Police in your community then make up for that LACK with MORE CAMERAS.

Is that from Stalin's handbook of friendly government or Mao's little red book??????

Welcome to TOTV. So how do you miss seeing all the other changes made to the roadway that go along with the gates. Are you oblivious to the island in the middle of the road or the narrowing roadway?

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They already have cameras at every gate...

I believe that there is NO WAY to improve the vision of people with macular degeneration, which is common in older populations. It can only be somewhat STABILIZED with eye vitamins. These people can and WILL continue to drive so it is up to the particular authorities to develop the MOST VISIBLE gates possible. Or go to a stop light INSTEAD of rising gates, which obviously have problems, which we are discussing solutions to.

Every suggestion to "fixing" the problem involves spending money. Lots of money.
Except one option - remove all the gates. Also clear out all the landscaping blocking line of sight. Saves a bundle of money now, and every year in the future.
These are public roads, so golf carts have to yield to all cars until the road is 100% clear. No matter if its 10 cars in a row - golf cart cannot enter the road and impede a car in any manner. Gates do not alter the law; and do not give golf carts the right to enter a road in front of a car at a gate. Carts required to wait.
These are public roads, so speed bumps are not allowed here. Making a profit from a gate arm strike is also not allowed (interesting that TV may be doing that now, and could be heading for a class action lawsuit)

Any links to back up those last assertions?

And if you think tbings are dangerous now, just wait till you see what happens if they remove all of the gates...

Doesn't FL have a vision test for driver's license renewal?

Oh, that's right... They do...

From the Google Machine:

"Report of Eye Exam: For original licenses, and at the time of each renewal license, your eyesight will be tested by the driver license examiner designated by the department or by a licensed ophthalmologist, optometrist, or physician using FLHSMV Report of Eye Exam Form 72010."

Wouldn't that be the solution to stopping people who cannot see from driving?

I am not clear what purpose the exit gates serve. TV is not a gated community in the truest sense in that anyone can enter just about any gate I have been through, staffed or not. There may be a few exceptions. Therefore, why have exit gates, or perhaps simply leave them up unless special conditions call for them to be lowered. For instance if a security situation rises. If the concern is that an open exit gate will not slow down departing traffic, put small speedbumps there. I have worked at a number of locations with large numbers of entrance and exit gates (like huge seaports). When they can, the gates are left up to reduce the number of cycles and prolong the life of the mechanisms. Entrance gates are almost always left down but these are highly restricted areas.

It slows down traffic for golf cart crossings.

And before you jump.............for non-golf cart crossing exits, it trains old people to slow down at all gates. If all exits don't have gates, the old people will forget.

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[QUOTE=cjrjck;2208056]I am not clear what purpose the exit gates serve.
Five years on TOTV and you haven’t figured that out?

You can't just put speed bumps on any public road you wish...

Imagine the cart crossing area at a former gate location. Cars do not stop anymore. No bulky walls, mechanisms, or large landscaping to block the view of those oncoming cars from the golf cart driver's seat...
Golf cart driver knows the car is not stopping, so why they drive into the road knowing they will get hit?
10 cars will go past faster than one would if stopping for a gate arm. Traffic would clear faster and everything would move faster. And safer.

Understanding that concept requires an open mind. A willingness to challenge the "we always do it this way" attitude. Not always being negative. Look for ways to do things better, and do it.

Same here. Eleven years and I've yet to kill a gate!

Keyword: Faster

Dream on...

Huh? If you can put a gate arm there you can surely put a speed bump there. My point is that the exit gate arms serve no purpose in a community that really does not have controlled access. If you say it is to slow down traffic as it exits, then put a speed bump there instead. Then nobody will hit the gate arms.

Let's see (or not see as the case may be). If people claim they can't see a red and white gate arm at eye level, do you really think they will see a speed bump?????

Hmmmm.... A capitalized "no way". Are you asking me or telling me???? If you are telling me, see picture below. If you are asking, many patients with MD get improvement with injections of avastin.

If those who try to beat the gates or tailgate were eliminated from the numbers I am guessing there would not be as many broken gate arms! Those who are in a hurry and try to beat the system should bear the burden of the costs.

If the cameras serve their purpose then there should be a significant fine charged (enough to pay for gate repair/replace).

But like so many things these days, for what ever reasons there is no enforcement.....hence violations continue and those who violate feel free to continue doing so.

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I hate speed bumps (and a lot of other things).

Oh.. wait for it......

Ummm... No you can't... The FL DOT has to do it...

I would like to see, "I hit a gate and here is why ..."

Hitting gates because they are "hard to see" is a theory. Hitting gates for other reasons seems more likely to me.

Ain't gonna hear why.....................the driver was doing something wrong. Period.

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Of course. But, I am looking for "because I did not see the gate". All this talk about making the gates more visible, and no one has confirmed that is the reason they get hit.

LOL, when we were first looking years ago, the PROPERTY of the VILLAGES rep. showing us around offered his car. We thanked him but said we'd prefer to just follow him in our own vehicle. He said, "Oh of course, that's fine, just wanted to offer.... just be SURE to stay very close to my bumper when we come to a gate, stay close and just go through with me." So funny, many years ago, and at the time we thought all of it (gates process) strange, but sure enough, hubby hesitantly stayed close to the reps rear bumper as he said ... and thankfully we never hit a gate or had a gate hit us. Now I just shudder thinking who it was who told us that "tip"... the person is still around ! Another amusing (?) story, we brought a camcorder, anyone remember those ? We finished our tour with him at the S.S. office and parked in a parking space on the street, right behind him (plenty of street parking in the summer months back then). We were walking into the office with him and realized we had not locked the car and LEFT THE CAMCORDER ON THE FRONT SEAT. When hubby explained why he needed to go back and lock the car, our rep chuckled and said, "definitely do if you feel more comfortable, but nobody HERE is going to bother it, you don't have to worry here, that's for sure." This was the same time period when there were "warning signs" when you entered The Villages: Caution, YOU ARE ENTERING A GOLF CART COMMUNITY, GOLF CARTS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. Time sure does march on, and things .... change... That wonderful old Buchara bakery, now DD !

LOL, when we were first looking years ago, the PROPERTY of the VILLAGES rep. showing us around offered his car. We thanked him but said we'd prefer to just follow him in our own vehicle. He said, "Oh of course, that's fine, just wanted to offer.... just be SURE to stay very close to my bumper when we come to a gate, stay close and just go through with me." So funny, many years ago, and at the time we thought all of it (gates process) strange, but sure enough, hubby hesitantly stayed close to the reps rear bumper as he said ... and thankfully we never hit a gate or had a gate hit us. Now I just shudder thinking who it was who told us that "tip"... the person is still around ! Another amusing (?) story, we brought a camcorder, anyone remember those ? We finished our tour with him at the S.S. office and parked in a parking space on the street, right behind him (plenty of street parking in the summer months back then). We were walking into the office with him and realized we had not locked the car and LEFT THE CAMCORDER ON THE FRONT SEAT. When hubby explained why he needed to go back and lock the car, our rep chuckled and said, "definitely do if you feel more comfortable, but nobody HERE is going to bother it, you don't have to worry here, that's for sure." This was the same time period when there were "warning signs" when you entered The Villages: Caution, YOU ARE ENTERING A GOLF CART COMMUNITY, GOLF CARTS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. Time sure does march on, and things .... change... That wonderful old Buchara bakery, now DD !

Roger that, but I doubt the response results will be accurate.........easier to blame something (gate's fault) or someone else.

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There are 2 types of macular degeneration (MD).....wet type and dry type. Injections work for the WET type. The dry type (thinning of the retina) has NO CURE. I was talking about the dry type. I have a friend that has the dry type so I have personal knowledge of that type.

I particularly agree with the statement advising " to clear away landscaping that is blocking line of sight. I see that often on the round-a-bouts there is landscaping blocking drivers' vision. I know of one swimming pool where to exit safely a driver must SLOWLY move out into about the middle of a street to be able to see around an overgrown plant. There is a resident owner that has a hedge that blocks the view of drivers leaving the parking area near the silver lake tennis court, rec center, and golf course - it is so OBVIOUS but nothing has been done in my 10 years here. Also, at the Shay Gate in the pre-historic village, there needs to be some land removed from the Church there in order to allow a smooth right turn from up the hill toward the Rec center.
........I could go on and on with simple fixes that would make for better traffic safety in TV Land. And I am sure that other residents in OTHER Villages could SUGGEST safety fixes that are CHEAP to expedite. I have NEVER understood why the Community Standards drivers are UNABLE to make these types of suggestions and get them approved. After all, I doubt that they are that busy as they leisurely drive around.

Somehow that HUGE PICTURE proclaiming a MEDICAL DEGREE strikes me as somewhat less than understated! Somehow I see a psychological need for self-proclamation. But, I will be gracious and take the high road and by sheer willpower, remove that image from my consciousness in the interest of the coming together of social classes.

A nice story about the good old safe, pre-crime days in TV Land. If only that time capsule had continued indefinitely. Today in every part of the US many bad crimes are occurring. For how much longer will TV Land continue to be SPARED ????? Australia could teach the US so many things, yet no ears are open to change TODAY..

While I agree with your assessment, please don't steer these idiots towards golf carts instead of their motor vehicles!!! You can't cure STUPID regardless of the vehicle that they can't operate effectively.

Again, are you telling me?????

Rather than repeat the picture, I'll just :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Not at all, I don't need any affirmation from you. You are the one that started with the didactic post. It's kind of like me trying to give a golf lesson to Tiger Woods, if you get my drift.

OK. Lets be honest. How many others had to look that word up?
I know I did.
Word of the week!

I stand by my statement about the DRY TYPE of macular degeneration. I am absolutely, unassailably, and 100% correct MEDICALLY about my statement. I may NOT know many medical facts, but I stand tall among the giants in the medical field on this PARTICULAR situation. Jonas Salk agrees with ME!!!!!!!!!