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Topspinmo 07-26-2024 03:07 PM

The claims walking through yards basically fault. I sure few (very few happened) the problems people think they own right down to retention pond, they don’t. when retention pond has public access and no fishing sign posted it can be fished. Public access would be retention pond next to public street. Or behind postal station. No interior golf course ponds, no retention pound surrounded by private property, no fishing were signs are posted. IMO anybody the would dare eat fish out of villages retention ponds might brave or hungry sole. The villages has rules on fishing retention ponds

https://www.districtgov.org/departme...=travellens.co

fdpaq0580 07-26-2024 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2353268)
I was saying how stupid the statement "they were here first" is. It is a false narrative to try to justify an invalid argument.
Maybe they were on earth first, but not in the retention ponds. Humans were at these ponds first.

I want them all gone. Allow trappers to grab as many as they want, anytime between sunrise and sunset.

You want what gone? Ponds, or humans? And what or who are the trappers gonna grab? And what does sunrise and sunset have to do with anything?

fdpaq0580 07-26-2024 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2353268)
I was saying how stupid the statement "they were here first" is. It is a false narrative to try to justify an invalid argument.
Maybe they were on earth first, but not in the retention ponds. Humans were at these ponds first..

Not all humans were at these ponds first. I know the gators have been in the ponds longer than I've been in TV. And I bet gators have been here longer than you. So, did you really not know there were gators here? Did the sales reps not warn you? "By the way M. Maker, if you don't like alligators, you shouldn't buy a home in TV."

And you want them all gone. Call their manager!

crash 07-27-2024 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2352774)
The main thrust of the complaints that I read are people walking through yards to get to the ponds.

If you have to walk across private property to get to a pond it is not a fishable pond. All fishable ponds have public access to them.

FlaDreamer 07-27-2024 07:18 AM

Not Behind Homes!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crash (Post 2353437)
If you have to walk across private property to get to a pond it is not a fishable pond. All fishable ponds have public access to them.

Here's the guidelines. Please don't fish behind our homes as a matter of security and privacy. Here's the guidelines/link to the entire development. THANK YOU!!

EXAMPLE:
Location:
Where to fish:

Located on Warnock Rd across from Lake Deaton pool
Alongside the banks of Warnock Rd

Located beside Lake Deaton Pool
Alongside the banks behind Lake Deaton Pool

https://www.districtgov.org/departme...=travellens.co

Bill14564 07-27-2024 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaDreamer (Post 2353468)
Here's the guidelines. Please don't fish behind our homes as a matter of security and privacy. Here's the guidelines/link to the entire development. THANK YOU!!

EXAMPLE:
Location:
Where to fish:

Located on Warnock Rd across from Lake Deaton pool
Alongside the banks of Warnock Rd

Located beside Lake Deaton Pool
Alongside the banks behind Lake Deaton Pool

https://www.districtgov.org/departme...=travellens.co

This section is also worth noting:
2. Fishermen may fish in any lake, canal or stream, whether natural or man-made, which can be reached without crossing over or trespassing upon any privately owned property or golf courses.
There is no mention of proximity to private property or position relative to private property so long as the body of water can be reached without crossing over or trespassing upon private property.

That 10' of land between your property line and the water's edge is not your private property no matter what the real estate agent led you to believe.

Similarly, the 10' of land from your house to your property line IS private property. If the fishermen are crossing that area or sitting on that area then they are trespassing and you should contact the local authorities.

FlaDreamer 07-27-2024 10:23 AM

Thank you for expanding the discussion and for the opportunity to further magnify what I should have provided the first time. I would agree with your answer as suggesting it applies to all bodies of water if the guidance did not specially identify those bodies of water that can be fished behind homes and those that are from the banks as shown below.

Agree that it may be confusing.

LAKE MIRA MAR
Location:
Where you can fish:
LAKE CHULA VISTA
Location:
Where you can fish:
SUMMERHILL POND
Location:
Dustin Drive next to the Silver Lake Rec. Center
You can fish the entire lake (respect homeowner property)

Behind the La Hacienda Rec. Center
You can fish the entire lake (respect homeowner property)

Avenida Central to Bernardo Blvd.

Along the banks of Bernardo Blvd.

BillyGreenYokel 08-17-2024 04:07 PM

I understand that some homeowners don't want anyone along the ponds behind their homes. But where's the love for the fishermen? I'd say most of these folks are respectful and just want to enjoy a little time trying to catch that BIG one. And in most places, if they stay near the water, they aren't close to the homes.

The Fishing Guidelines that were linked state that, "Fishermen may fish in any lake, canal or stream, whether natural or man-made, which can be reached without crossing over or trespassing upon any privately owned property or golf courses."

Residential lots do not extend to the water's edge. There is probably 20 ft or more of district property surrounding the ponds, depending upon water levels. So if there is district access to the pond from a street, recreation center, etc., then it seems that the area around the pond should be fishable if the fisherman stays on district property and does not cross onto private residential lots.

Ponds that are not fishable are clearly noted in the guidelines as Prohibited or marked with No Fishing signs.

There are ponds listed in the guidelines as Recommended Fishing Locations. The key word seems to be "Recommended". It does not say "Allowable", nor do the guidelines imply that these are the ONLY fishing locations.

The guidelines say, "Please be mindful and respectful by others property, vegetation, foliage, and landscaping". Why include this statement if fisherman cannot be near private property lines?

Shipping up to Boston 08-17-2024 04:37 PM

Since the ancient and honorable Villagers on these threads love to remind us how long theyve been here....it’s only fitting that the gators flex their seniority card. Even after many eviction attempts and the fact that we continue to be ‘squatters’ on portions of their land.......in the words of Tom Brady and on behalf of the gators ‘we’re still here’! As it should be!

Stu from NYC 08-17-2024 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 2352887)
It’s catch and release so only thing eating fish in TV is the gators

Dont forget the pelicans. They are very good at herding fish and than having them for lunch


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