Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2435245)

The Appalachian example is not persuasive. St. Dolly Parton was born "at home" in a small rural town (Pittman Center, who had a 2020 census population under 500 - even fewer when Dolly was born in 1946). She travels extensively internationally, so getting a passport and other "proof of birth / proof of life" government documents is clearly possible.

Originally Posted by Flyers999 (Post 2435545)

Developing land is one thing; but hoodwinking and abusing elders is another thing altogether.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2435458)

Interesting to see who is responding to this thread with a "hey they have the right to cash out" or "it's not surprising." Not just you, but everyone who seems to have this perception or attitude toward the news.

It's interesting, because the concern had come up in previous threads, about what would The Villages do if the Morse family decided they no longer wanted to run the place.

The response was incredibly aggressive toward people who questioned it, saying it wouldn't ever happen, the family is making millions so they'd never cash out, they're successful and love what they do and would never sell...

And here they are, selling off bits and pieces.

I guess those of us who actually thought to ask about it, were right to ask, and the ones who insisted it wouldn't happen, were - sucked in by the kool-aid and now the sugar high is starting to wear off.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2435451)

Am I not clear in my words? Are people having difficulty understanding me because I'm writing poorly? I'll try again:

NEW LAWS.

There are NEW LAWS that didn't exist as of a year ago.

These laws are new. They're recent. They're not from 1946, they're not from 1961, they're not from 2000, they're not from 2023. They're new.

If you've never changed your name, then my concern about these laws doesn't apply to you.

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2435464)

Ya know, just go online to the county website in which you were wedded, and follow the FAQ that responds to the inquiry: "How do I get a copy of my marriage license?" There's no MBA required here, no degree in the science of rocketry, no Mensa membership either.

If it had been done long ago, this "emergency" because of NEW LAWS would not be an "emergency" which causes one such panic.

By the way, the law isn't really NEW. It was passed twenty years ago in 2005. Its many postponements have been publicized over the years as states invested in the technological infrastructure to make it happen. It's been a complete foreseeable eventuality for two decades, thus NOT an "emergency."

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2435630)

Yeah I did a google search using different phrases for social security law changes in 2005, and came up with one initiative by Bush to make some changes, and it was rejected. I saw another one that had to do with government pensions and windfall exemptions, which never got past the "introduced" stage.

There was nothing requiring people to have an online account in 2005. There was nothing requiring people to prove their citizenship AFTER they'd already been approved and receiving social security benefits, just because they changed direct deposit bank accounts for their monthly payment. Also in 2005, people still could get monthly checks in the mail. They can't do that anymore. None of that was a thing in 2005.

In addition, having a REAL ID means you have already verified your identity, including any name change for marriage or other reasons, with the government. That's a criteria for getting a REAL ID in the first place. And yet, the SSA won't accept the REAL ID as proof of identity, if your current name isn't the name on your birth certificate. Even though - you had to have that proof, when you got the REAL ID.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2435669)

Per AI:

Learn more
To change your Social Security direct deposit information to a new bank, you can either use two-factor authentication on the "my Social Security" online service or visit a local Social Security office. Phone calls are no longer accepted for these changes, according to the Social Security Administration (SSA).
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. My Social Security Online:
You can update your direct deposit information through the "my Social Security" online service.
This requires logging in and using two-factor authentication for added security.
You can find this service on the official Social Security Administration website.
2. Visiting a Social Security Office:
If you're unable to use the online service, you can visit a local Social Security office to update your direct deposit information.
You'll need to provide your new bank account details, including routing and account numbers, along with identification.
It's recommended to bring a voided check from your new account.

Originally Posted by Flyers999 (Post 2435545)

Developing land is one thing; but hoodwinking and abusing elders is another thing altogether.

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2435946)

I thought starting in May to change your banking with SS it is now required to do in person. Prior to that I always did everything online with gov I’d me. I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2435946)

I thought starting in May to change your banking with SS it is now required to do in person. Prior to that I always did everything online with gov I’d me. I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2435451)

Am I not clear in my words? Are people having difficulty understanding me because I'm writing poorly? I'll try again:

NEW LAWS.

There are NEW LAWS that didn't exist as of a year ago.

These laws are new. They're recent. They're not from 1946, they're not from 1961, they're not from 2000, they're not from 2023. They're new.

If you've never changed your name, then my concern about these laws doesn't apply to you.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2435146)

This is going to be scary for those of us who were born with one last name, eventually got married and took our spouse's last name. The new laws require more forms of ID now than just a REAL ID, if you change banks for your monthly social security deposit.

But what if the bank changes itself? Will we have the same account and routing number? If not, this could get messy. I know my birth certificate has my first, middle, and last name at birth. My REAL ID Drivers License has only my first and last name at marriage, and so does my social security card. I'm not sure where my marriage certificate is, but if I need a new copy it involves more paperwork and fees, plus Connecticut requires a postal money order only and not a personal check, and they don't take credit cards for payment. So that means more fees.

All this to prove that I am the person I was when I first filled out my Social Security deposit information, and all because I'm a married woman who took my husband's name when I got married, and that last name doesn't match the last name on my birth certificate. Which - they knew, because they gave me that Real ID, which required all that information back when I still lived in Connecticut.