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spring_chicken 02-22-2016 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1189001)
...and do you honestly believe that the families of the two women who were killed will not sue?

It is a very good idea to have the umbrella policy with around 3-5 million on it.

The driver of the SUV was in an Escalade so he obviously has plenty that could be wiped out if he does not have lots of liability insurance.


Absolutely not true. People need to get the facts before giving legal advice.
You cannot lose your home OR your retirement accounts in
a lawsuit in Florida.

Taltarzac725 02-22-2016 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 1189079)
They have to know what caused the driver to cause. Heart attack, stroke, etc we would know immediately. Drugs on the other hand, even If prescription overdose would Make villagers angry. The driver was Only 58. Has to make U wonder

When lawyers are probably going to be involved the press are usually a lot more careful with making statements.

spring_chicken 02-22-2016 08:42 AM

Because the driver was only 58 people want to make wild assumptions about drugs?
Pathetic. Maybe let the man recover before starting the vicious rumors??

Taltarzac725 02-22-2016 08:45 AM

Road Traffic Collisions | Forensic Pathology Online

I found this of interest. Part of it covers medical emergencies causing a crash.

I did see the Villages Daily Sun front page coverage of this accident this morning 2/22/2016. Good for them with putting it there as this may stop some people from taking unnecessary risks when getting behind the wheel. My heart goes out the families of both the crash victims as well as the survivors including the SUV driver. That must be a terrible burden to bear no matter what actually caused this crash.

zonerboy 02-22-2016 09:13 AM

A person's medical history is not a matter of public record to be published in news media, even in the case of auto accidents when the public wants to know. There are legal restrictions regarding use of such information.
Still "medical emergency" is a modern catchphrase of vague meaning similar to "therapy dog". I would expect blood tests done at the hospital would disclose the presence or absence of drugs (prescription or otherwise) or alcohol in the system of the driver. And testing will be done to discover whether conditions known to cause sudden loss of consciousness were present on the driver. This is not accomplished in the spirit of assigning blame to the driver, just a part of a normal investigation as to the cause of the incident. After all there is the possibility "medical emergency" was just an excuse claimed by the passenger in the SUV to cover up some other problem. Remote perhaps, but a possibility nevertheless.

graciegirl 02-22-2016 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hulahips (Post 1189079)
They have to know what caused the driver to cause. Heart attack, stroke, etc we would know immediately. Drugs on the other hand, even If prescription overdose would Make villagers angry. The driver was Only 58. Has to make U wonder





I don't think that the medical cause would be public record, but driving impaired might. I always wonder why such a very awful and sad accident cause some people to act and speak angrily, as if so many things called accidents aren't just that.


Would it matter if it was a stroke, a heart attack, sudden onset of a seizure? It would certainly matter if he was using an illegal substance, but that is usually easy to ascertain.


So many people experience sadness, shock and feel it in their heart.... and get angry, when sometimes nothing could have prevented this or changed it.

tuccillo 02-22-2016 09:32 AM

I would not make assumptions about someone's net worth based on the car they drive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1189001)
...and do you honestly believe that the families of the two women who were killed will not sue?

It is a very good idea to have the umbrella policy with around 3-5 million on it.

The driver of the SUV was in an Escalade so he obviously has plenty that could be wiped out if he does not have lots of liability insurance.


Jima64 02-22-2016 09:32 AM

Possible lease car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1189001)
...and do you honestly believe that the families of the two women who were killed will not sue?

It is a very good idea to have the umbrella policy with around 3-5 million on it.

The driver of the SUV was in an Escalade so he obviously has plenty that could be wiped out if he does not have lots of liability insurance.

Unless it was a leased car.

2BNTV 02-22-2016 09:41 AM

Today's Daily Sun two woman, friends for over 40 years died in the accident from a driver who had an a medical emergency, 58 years old. I believe they were thrown from the cart. The third person was hit by the cart and will recover from his injuries. Both woman were unaware this was happening, unfortunately.

Another sad accident that might have had a better result if seat belts were worn but that is speculation on my part. I find it very sad that we have lived this long and get killed in what one thinks, should be a safe place to travel.

Many years ago, I had to take courses in defensive driving for the company I worked for, as I was in field service. The police officer said, "I never unbuckled a dead person".

My deepest condolences to the families and friends to the victims of this tragic accident.

hulahips 02-22-2016 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1189124)
I don't think that the medical cause would be public record, but driving impaired might. I always wonder why such a very awful and sad accident cause some people to act and speak angrily, as if so many things called accidents aren't just that.


Would it matter if it was a stroke, a heart attack, sudden onset of a seizure? It would certainly matter if he was using an illegal substance, but that is usually easy to ascertain.


So many people experience sadness, shock and feel it in their heart.... and get angry, when sometimes nothing could have prevented this or changed it.

It Absolutely matters what caused this. If my loved one were killed by another I would insist on knowing if the other driver had been impaired. Accidents of course happen but it is the Duty of authorities to let the family know exactly what happened. Again if heart attack or stroke, there was passenger in car who would have witnessed this. They already know. My point is, why hold back medical condition, unless something that would upset villagers.

bagboy 02-22-2016 11:34 AM

I just viewed the victims picture on another online news site, enjoying dinner and each others company just the night before this happened. How tragic and sad for the families and friends of all involved. Life is so precious. Anything other than grieving for the victims, or taking the time to be thankful for our lives at this time is quite inappropriate. And when the time comes if we are to know something, we'll be told.

RedChariot 02-22-2016 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1188841)
Paradise Lost :sad:

Do you all believe this accident may be a reality check for all of us? We enjoy living here, but over the last 4 years we have seen the myth chipped away. It's a great idea to drive around in a cute golf cart. But the reality is that perhaps it has become just too crowded here. The roads where the golf carts are right next to the cars on the same road is just plain dangerous. I thought the MM roads set back from the road is a better design. Now this. This is not a cutesy retirement community. There was a time I'm sure. Not any longer. I believe the golf cart driver needs to think twice before taking a spin. Think where you are going, the season of the year, the time of day. Never Colony Plaza area. Never. It's dicey there even in a car.

Another accident just came to mind. Remember the man who had a "medical event" and hit a women on a bicycle? It was on Morse north of 466. Anyone know how they are? Especially the woman on the bike.

Bjeanj 02-22-2016 12:00 PM

Hula hips, I believe the HIPPA law would protect health information and applies to everyone, which is probably why this is referred to as a "medical incident." Everyone might also want to remember that if the driver, friends or relatives were to read this series of posts, several of the posts would undoubtedly offend them. I know I would be offended by some of these posts, as well as be happy for the warm get well wishes.

hulahips 02-22-2016 12:15 PM

I have not seen a post here that would offend family and friends. All prayers and condolences are absolutely with them. Our hearts are broken for such loss. Possibilities are many of course and we do not know details yet. My only concern is something I have learned throughout life and my work experience. Sometimes silence is much more telling then revealing. I do hope for the family's sake it was a unpreventable accident to make it a bit easier on them ,If that is even possible. My prayers and sympathy are certainly sincere and may God be with them during this difficult time

hulahips 02-22-2016 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 1189235)
Do you all believe this accident may be a reality check for all of us? We enjoy living here, but over the last 4 years we have seen the myth chipped away. It's a great idea to drive around in a cute golf cart. But the reality is that perhaps it has become just too crowded here. The roads where the golf carts are right next to the cars on the same road is just plain dangerous. I thought the MM roads set back from the road is a better design. Now this. This is not a cutesy retirement community. There was a time I'm sure. Not any longer. I believe the golf cart driver needs to think twice before taking a spin. Think where you are going, the season of the year, the time of day. Never Colony Plaza area. Never. It's dicey there even in a car.

Another accident just came to mind. Remember the man who had a "medical event" and hit a women on a bicycle? It was on Morse north of 466. Anyone know how they are? Especially the woman on the bike.

You do raise a good point. Golf carts and cars side by side are dangerous. Perhaps it's better in a smaller community but it may be time to think about are we just too large now for safety to not be a consideration? I hate reading about all these golf cart accidents


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