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Duvalboomer 07-11-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 670014)
Any business that would like to make two or three times what the electricity cost.

Having owned a business in the past if I could double or triple my money I would have provided this service but I think someone would have to present a compelling business case to the business owners.

firebiker 07-11-2013 02:23 PM

We have an electric golf cart and if fully charged we can travel from our home in Fernandina (Brownwood) to Spanish Springs, at night with the lights on, with no problem. If you accommodate electric cart owners by putting charging stations on the Squares, how are you going to do the same for gas cart owners? For me, it boils down to taking responsibility for your actions. Poor planning on your part does not constitute paying higher bonds/taxes/fees on my part.

kbace6 07-11-2013 03:14 PM

I have seen this mentioned in a few posts in this thread about higher fees. Why do people think they will be paying for someone elses charging of their cart?

1. There are many existing charge stations that take credit cards and they do not cost much to purchase.

2. The charge stations would pay for themselves only by the folks that use them.

3. The carts in TV would have to have their own on board charger and be wired properly with a J1772 plug that is EVSE (public charge station) compliant. Having just the J1772 plug won't get it done. You need the correct circuitry with your charger and plug to talk to the plug unit.

I don't get all the hyperbole, it's not even anything propose by "The Villages" management. It's just an idea among people on this forum.

chilout

cquick 07-12-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 669400)
And who would pay for this ?

I would pay a fee (such as putting gas in a tank) for an hour or two's worth of electricity!

Good idea!
:BigApplause:

PaPaLarry 07-12-2013 01:17 PM

You start giving free charges, next thing it will be added to your trail fees!! I can just see people wanting that!! Oh well, pass the popcorn.:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Bogie Shooter 07-12-2013 01:45 PM

I thought this was solved in May...............

ilovetv 07-12-2013 03:20 PM

What's with the superior attitude of owning an electric cart and not producing noxious emissions? Electric carts get their power from coal-fired electric power plants!

Here is SECO, our supplier:

Seminole Generating Station

Two 650 megawatt (MW) generating
Units (Units 1 and 2) put into commercial service in 1984, with subsequent emissions control upgrades. Unit 3 planned to go into service in 2012
(750 MW)
Located in northeast Florida in Putnam
County, about 60 miles south of Jacksonville
Powered by coal, delivered by rail, purchased primarily from mines in southern Illinois and western Kentucky; permitted to burn petroleum coke (up to 30% blend), a byproduct of the oil refining industry
Full compliance with emissions permits and other applicable regulations
Scrubber system waste (500,000+ tons/year) converted to synthetic gypsum, sold to Lafarge Gypsum for local wallboard production under a long term contract Other by-products recovered and marketed
to additionally offset net energy costs
Professional and skilled workforce
(approximately 280 employees)
Extensive community involvement

Payne Creek Generating Station
A 500 megawatt (MW) combined cycle generating facility put into commercial service in 2002
Additional 310 MW of aero derivative gas turbines to go into service in December 2006.
Intermediate capacity to meet member needs during high demand periods
Located in Hardee County, south of Lakeland, northwest of Wauchula
Powered by natural gas; Station is served by Florida Gas Transmission and Gulfstream Natural Gas System

Crystal River 3 Nuclear Plant
Seminole owns a 14 megawatt share of Progress Energy Florida’s Crystal River 3 nuclear plant.

Seminole Electric Cooperative is a generation and transmission cooperative

http://www.secoenergy.com/pdfs/CorpD...gySupplier.pdf

kimball 07-12-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by crummybuttons (Post 669399)
I've often wondered why TV's doesn't have charging stations placed around TV's for people who own electric golf carts especially since adding Brownwood. Even in the Town Squares it would be night just to recharge for half an hour or so.

And should they provide chargers for every type electric vehicle or should each driver carry their own?

getdul981 07-12-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 669648)
The heck with all of that I want golf cart manufacturers to mass produced hybrid golf carts.

The solar panels made for golf carts offer a trickle of power. However, I am told that if /when lithium batteries are perfected for golf carts solar panel will be all that is needed to recharge them.

I still prefer the hybrid golf cart idea. The price on such a cart would just skyrocket wouldn't it.

EZ Go aleady does make a hybrid. It isn't nearly as efficient as a hybrid car, but that will probably change. The dealership in the strip mall behind CVS on 466 had one last year that one of the sales people was driving.

Rickg 07-13-2013 07:12 AM

How about a sticker in your home window allowing emergency short term charging. Just a thought.

Bavarian 07-13-2013 08:25 AM

Charging stations would be billed using the users credit card, no cost to anyone else. The power would come from the main cables underground, not from a business. The right to install and maintain the charging stations would be up for bid, winning company installs and maintains, costs are paid by charging fee.
I saw a prototype charging station by Ford at Winter CES, powered by solar cells on top.
It is doable, won't cost any non electric vehicle user anything, won't cost businesses any thing. It is the future and the future is here.

graciegirl 07-13-2013 08:44 AM

Get a horse.

njbchbum 07-13-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 707329)
Get a horse.

love that one, gracie! :)

jimbo2012 07-13-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian (Post 707321)
Charging stations would be billed using the users credit card, no cost to anyone else. .

How long to be plugged in to get a meaningful charge?

Where would they be located not to cause a traffic or parking jam?

NoMoSno 07-13-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 707329)
Get a horse.

...that doesn't poop or pee...:thumbup:

Patty55 07-13-2013 10:56 AM

I figure that I'd just find a Snowbird house and plug in.

zcaveman 07-13-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 707333)
How long to be plugged in to get a meaningful charge?

That is the real question. Those carts with fairly new batteries can recharge within an hour. Those with old batteries would take a very long time.

I am lead to believe that if you cut the charge short it causes more problems with the batteries that it is worth.

Z

zcaveman 07-13-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickg (Post 707286)
How about a sticker in your home window allowing emergency short term charging. Just a thought.

That would work. At the bottom of the sticker in small letters it could read 25 cents a minute or whatever you feel comfortable with charging for the charging.

Z

Bavarian 07-13-2013 12:05 PM

The charging posts would in my design, be located along the parking spots in the Squares and some, based on projected need, in the shopping centers. They would be designed to look like hitching posts.

mulligan 07-13-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian (Post 707321)
Charging stations would be billed using the users credit card, no cost to anyone else. The power would come from the main cables underground, not from a business. The right to install and maintain the charging stations would be up for bid, winning company installs and maintains, costs are paid by charging fee.
I saw a prototype charging station by Ford at Winter CES, powered by solar cells on top.
It is doable, won't cost any non electric vehicle user anything, won't cost businesses any thing. It is the future and the future is here.

The "main cables underground" are of much too high voltage to run a charger, so you would need a transformer. Where would you put that ? On the sidewalk ?

Bavarian 07-13-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 707472)
The "main cables underground" are of much too high voltage to run a charger, so you would need a transformer. Where would you put that ? On the sidewalk ?

How many transformers do you see? It is not one per dwelling/shop. Another such as this small load can feed off an existing transformer much like street lights. It will take some Electrical engineering by people such as myself, but I think it is doable.

mulligan 07-13-2013 05:20 PM

Take a look BEHIND the businesses...there's a transformer every 3rd or 4th door.

Bavarian 07-14-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 707625)
Take a look BEHIND the businesses...there's a transformer every 3rd or 4th door.

You run the cable from the transformer to the charging station, it does not feed off the dwellings meter.

mrf6969 07-24-2013 05:35 PM

my experience is that it takes a few hours to charge an electric cart so charging stations would only work if you were to leave your vehicle for several hours. Not real practical. I got tired of all that hassle and unreliablity and got a gas. Now piece of mind as far as getting back home goes.


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