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Luggage 03-10-2022 07:02 AM

Logic
 
First I think your logic is faulty, you're going to spend $10 to $20,000 at a minimum to save $500 a year? Even if gas goes and doubles you're talking a difference of 1/10 of the cost of buying a new product over 10 years. And in fact what we're probably looking at is a very slight bump in the price of gas not lasting more than 12 months.
Now if you were to tell me you're worried that there will be no gasoline available then you should go buy a Tesla because at least you could always get a charge no matter what the price
Most people have a golf cart because in my opinion it simply easier getting in and out of then closing that big door, but remember most golf carts don't have air conditioning although of course you can get heat.
Think this is all through financially and I think you would just get a golf cart to enjoy yourself driving around the villages and give up one of your cars. Of course I don't know whether you drive 5000 miles or 20,000 miles a year but most of us don't put a heck of a lot of miles on our autos.
We bought a cart years ago and find ourselves using a lesson less. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2070520)
We have been here 2 1/2 years, and really are not into golf - mainly medical reasons.

But, with inflation and potential gas prices soaring, we are debating buying something electric. Golf Cart, Atomic Car, Tesla. (in that order of most to least likely).

We live in McClure (across the street from Magnolia Plaza).

Our criteria is:

1. Be able to get around the villages (we plan to keep our ICE - Lexus - for road trips to Gainesville). This means maybe as far as Sumter Landing, but more likely Brownwood and where ever the new Square will be North of 44 someday. Shopping, mail and entertainment.

2. Bicycles and trikes would maybe work, if electric. But, we prefer to be able to sit together in something that we can smile and not get bugs smushed on our teeth.

3. We would prefer electric so we can charge them over night and drive them during the day. Gas is a distant possibility, but would require keeping a supply of gas in the garage, and I don't like that.

4. We do not like being rained on when going to the grocery store or postal station - LOL! so it needs to be enclosed - but cool'ish in the summer and warmish in the winter.

5. We understand with golf carts we are restricted to inside the bubble, but can we get pretty much anywhere inside the bubble only limited by battery range? And what is the "real" battery range of lead vs Lithium batteries.

I would appreciate hearing from those that have recently made this decision and what considerations you took into account. Options, dealers, used vs new, lead vs Lithium, maintenance, insurance, etc, etc, etc.

The Atomic Car would have an advantage of being street legal - but a disadvantage of being the second most expensive (just below Tesla):

Yamaha Lithium around $12K, Atomic Car around $18K, Tesla (used Model 3) $45K.

Tesla would have the advantage of point to point self driving - sort of and long road trip ready (we are not in a hurry and stopping every 250 to 300 miles to eat and pee doesn't bother us. If we get the Tesla, we will probably sell both ICE cars (Lexus and Jaguar).

I am leaning right now to keeping the Lexus for road trips (3 or 4 a month to Gainesville) and getting a new Yamaha Electric with Lithium Batteries - looks like new from Yamaha is about $12,000 sort of, but I am not sure of which options I would need to keep dry and safe. And I am not sure of the Yamaha range. I would expect we want at least 50 mile range. I hear the Sirius Star is getting around 80 miles and the EZGO is getting around 60 miles.

I appreciate all discussions, even about how wonderful and better ICE is, but, I can assure you we want Electric, so, if you want to point out ICE advantages, I will thank you but very likely to not go that way. Not 100% yet, but close.

On the other hand if you have a electric golf cart or are considering one, your experience and considerations would be greatly appreciated.


Catalina36 03-10-2022 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2070530)
This is why I really didn't want to go down that path. People can't help themselves in making assumptions, putting words in other people mouths.

I NEVER said this decision was about saving the environment. Not one line in my post says that, but you couldn't stop yourself from giving me that motivation. I have stated what we want to do, we have our reasons, You want to do something else Good, I am glad you have those options.

Thank you for your post. it was completely not helpful.

MartinSE, you are a RUDE person. When you post a question on TOTV you should be able to take whatever response you get. Your inappropriate response was totally uncalled for. You should have just ignored a response if you did not like what you read. Instead, you chose to lash out at someone. STAY OFF TOTV if you can't handle it.

Catalina36 03-10-2022 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2070530)
This is why I really didn't want to go down that path. People can't help themselves in making assumptions, putting words in other people mouths.

I NEVER said this decision was about saving the environment. Not one line in my post says that, but you couldn't stop yourself from giving me that motivation. I have stated what we want to do, we have our reasons, You want to do something else Good, I am glad you have those options.

Thank you for your post. it was completely not helpful.

MartinSE, you are a RUDE person. When you post a question on TOTV you should be able to take whatever response you get. Your inappropriate response was totally uncalled for. You should have just ignored a response if you did not like what you read. Instead, you chose to lash out at someone. STAY OFF TOTV if you can't handle it.

Catalina36 03-10-2022 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2070530)
This is why I really didn't want to go down that path. People can't help themselves in making assumptions, putting words in other people mouths.

I NEVER said this decision was about saving the environment. Not one line in my post says that, but you couldn't stop yourself from giving me that motivation. I have stated what we want to do, we have our reasons, You want to do something else Good, I am glad you have those options.

Thank you for your post. it was completely not helpful.

MartinSE, you are a RUDE person. When you post a question on TOTV you should be able to take whatever response you get. Your inappropriate response was totally uncalled for. You should have just ignored a response if you did not like what you read. Instead, you chose to lash out at someone. STAY OFF TOTV if you can't handle it.

Hankofthedesert 03-10-2022 07:20 AM

You can buy a lot of gas/electric (golf card propulsion) for $12,000. not to mention insurance/maintenance

Laker14 03-10-2022 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2070703)
MartinSE, you are a RUDE person. When you post a question on TOTV you should be able to take whatever response you get. Your inappropriate response was totally uncalled for. You should have just ignored a response if you did not like what you read. Instead, you chose to lash out at someone. STAY OFF TOTV if you can't handle it.

you could take your own advice here.

talonip 03-10-2022 07:42 AM

Star Sirius EV
 
Just bought one. What a pleasure. Somewhat expensive. It will definitely get 70 plus. Powerful, quiet, and smooth. My electric bill is outa site and the world has gotten at least one degree hotter. (Just kidding). Hardly notice any increase at all.. I would visit the villages golf carts and drive one. It is fully enclosed if you want but rolls up for nice days.

JMintzer 03-10-2022 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2070703)
MartinSE, you are a RUDE person. When you post a question on TOTV you should be able to take whatever response you get. Your inappropriate response was totally uncalled for. You should have just ignored a response if you did not like what you read. Instead, you chose to lash out at someone. STAY OFF TOTV if you can't handle it.

I though his response to an insulting post was quite apropos...

Now your post, otoh...

DavidStockhausen 03-10-2022 08:02 AM

Try Crown Carts, Star dealer and AIr Conditioned Enclosed.

nhtexasrn 03-10-2022 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2070520)
We have been here 2 1/2 years, and really are not into golf - mainly medical reasons.

But, with inflation and potential gas prices soaring, we are debating buying something electric. Golf Cart, Atomic Car, Tesla. (in that order of most to least likely).

We live in McClure (across the street from Magnolia Plaza).

Our criteria is:

1. Be able to get around the villages (we plan to keep our ICE - Lexus - for road trips to Gainesville). This means maybe as far as Sumter Landing, but more likely Brownwood and where ever the new Square will be North of 44 someday. Shopping, mail and entertainment.

2. Bicycles and trikes would maybe work, if electric. But, we prefer to be able to sit together in something that we can smile and not get bugs smushed on our teeth.

3. We would prefer electric so we can charge them over night and drive them during the day. Gas is a distant possibility, but would require keeping a supply of gas in the garage, and I don't like that.

4. We do not like being rained on when going to the grocery store or postal station - LOL! so it needs to be enclosed - but cool'ish in the summer and warmish in the winter.

5. We understand with golf carts we are restricted to inside the bubble, but can we get pretty much anywhere inside the bubble only limited by battery range? And what is the "real" battery range of lead vs Lithium batteries.

I would appreciate hearing from those that have recently made this decision and what considerations you took into account. Options, dealers, used vs new, lead vs Lithium, maintenance, insurance, etc, etc, etc.

The Atomic Car would have an advantage of being street legal - but a disadvantage of being the second most expensive (just below Tesla):

Yamaha Lithium around $12K, Atomic Car around $18K, Tesla (used Model 3) $45K.

Tesla would have the advantage of point to point self driving - sort of and long road trip ready (we are not in a hurry and stopping every 250 to 300 miles to eat and pee doesn't bother us. If we get the Tesla, we will probably sell both ICE cars (Lexus and Jaguar).

I am leaning right now to keeping the Lexus for road trips (3 or 4 a month to Gainesville) and getting a new Yamaha Electric with Lithium Batteries - looks like new from Yamaha is about $12,000 sort of, but I am not sure of which options I would need to keep dry and safe. And I am not sure of the Yamaha range. I would expect we want at least 50 mile range. I hear the Sirius Star is getting around 80 miles and the EZGO is getting around 60 miles.

I appreciate all discussions, even about how wonderful and better ICE is, but, I can assure you we want Electric, so, if you want to point out ICE advantages, I will thank you but very likely to not go that way. Not 100% yet, but close.

On the other hand if you have a electric golf cart or are considering one, your experience and considerations would be greatly appreciated.

We have 2 Tomberlin electric golf carts and love them. They do not have the lithium batteries but the range on both is about 60 miles. We go all over TV and back home and still plenty of charge. The newer one has power steering that is really nice. The Tomberlin dealer is in Leesburg. It's Luxus Tomberlin. You can also purchase a service from a company called Kart Aid that will come to your assistance in the event something happens to your cart out on the road, or if you run out of charge (which isn't likely). Good luck!!

DaleDivine 03-10-2022 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2070709)
you could take your own advice here.

Exactly what I was thinking... Anddd, learn how to post. Don't keep hitting the reply key...
:ohdear::blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

DaleDivine 03-10-2022 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdeikenberry (Post 2070665)
Whether you go ICE or electric, having an enclosure is really nice. The complaint that it's hot in the summer isn't very valid. I've had Yahama gas carts for 7 years and both of them had enclosures. The second one has a Curtis sliding door enclosure and I love it. Immediately react to weather. I mounted a fan in it and that keeps air moving and me as cool as any other cart owner in the summer. I have a propane heater for the cold days and it keeps the cab warm. My comment on gas vrs elec is with gas I get 47 mph and gas stations are well within striking distance all over TV. I travel everywhere inside TV from north to south to golf in my cart preferentially over a auto and never worry about "will I make it or not."

WOW.. that's moving along pretty FAST in a golf cart.
:shocked::shocked::shocked:

NoMo50 03-10-2022 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2070703)
MartinSE, you are a RUDE person. When you post a question on TOTV you should be able to take whatever response you get. Your inappropriate response was totally uncalled for. You should have just ignored a response if you did not like what you read. Instead, you chose to lash out at someone. STAY OFF TOTV if you can't handle it.

Wow. So in order to make your point, you had to post it 3 times? That's the way to poke your finger into the OP's chest. Talk about rude...

DaleDivine 03-10-2022 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jojo (Post 2070682)
We have had electric for 14 years without ever having a distance problem. Upgraded last summer to EZGo Elite with lithium. We love the doors - came in handy this week in a sudden downpour. I believe it has a 60+ mile range. I often go over 40 and the gauge shows just under half. I have ridden in the QuietTechs and they are definitely quieter but not enough for me. The golf cart lifestyle has been one of the most pleasant "surprises" as that was not our reason for moving here.

In 2020, I played over 1200 rounds of golf on executive and championship courses combined. I usually played about 5 executive courses a day, some days I played as many as 10 or 11 executive courses (ALL were documented). I could NEVER have played that much golf with an electric cart, no matter how many miles it would go on a charge. I know, I had an electric Starr cart and almost had to push it home once. Went down that week and ordered a Yamaha gas cart.

:bigbow::bigbow:

Laker14 03-10-2022 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 2070777)
In 2020, I played over 1200 rounds of golf on executive and championship courses combined. I usually played about 5 executive courses a day, some days I played as many as 10 or 11 executive courses (ALL were documented). I could NEVER have played that much golf with an electric cart, no matter how many miles it would go on a charge. I know, I had an electric Starr cart and almost had to push it home once. Went down that week and ordered a Yamaha gas cart.

:bigbow::bigbow:

holy cow! that's a lot of golf. 11 executive courses in one day? On the day of the summer solstice you get 14 hours of daylight. That comes to about 1 hour and 15 minutes per round, not counting travel between courses, or meals.
Incredible, and I mean that in the most literal sense of the word.


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