Yes, if you’re a paying golfer you except the liability and the golf course has no liability for your injury. You can hold the the person who hit you with an errant shot liable for your injuries. Of course all subject to if “Dan Newell” is your lawyer.

“Except….”accept”

It’s Dan Newlin……….. Dan Newlin Injury Attorneys | $$ Billions Recovered. :ho:

Quacks like entitlement?

I find it humorous that the OP is complaining about the "King of Golf's" attitude...

Can't wait for part 2 when OP makes his next attempt. Should be a hoot

Ahh, there's the "E" word again. The answer for EVERY COMPLAINT in these forums that the gang doesn't agree with. Surprised I haven't seen "if you don't like it move." :a20:

Yup ... same old folks same old meaningless personal comments. Can always count on the same few for that. Makes me happy that I have made you laugh. You're welcome.

One person actually gave me the suggestion (name and location) of who I might speak to which was the only thing I asked in the OP. Everyone else told me what they think with no or unsubstantiated facts behind it.

Never spoke with any "starter" person. The guy who stopped us walked out of the little gazebo building in the Mallory parking lot. Starter is nowhere near the "path/driveway/concrete road", probably 100 feet down the section off the "path/driveway/concrete road" where carts line up. Maybe we are taking about 2 different things or places all this time? We have already ALMOST been hit with a ball walking on the MMP. It bounced 2 feet in front of us. We retrieved it for the golfing guy looking for it. He had orange balls. Thought they were supposed to be white. So walking on the "path/driveway/concrete road" is probably safer. :boxing2: [/quote]


NO! WHY? you asked .......... . I'll tell you. BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA WHAT OR WHO "THE PRO AT MALLORY IS" or what he does or looks like or where he lives as I don't play golf. The only "pros" I am aware of are those who get paid for playing golf like you see on television. Does the "pro" actually make The Villages rules that apply to all the Villages golf properties or just regurgitate what they "should be or probably are" like most here are doing because it says somewhere that only golfers who read them are aware of that says you can't walk on a GOLF COURSE.

For all I know the "PRO" was the guy who drives around in the golf cart with the water barrel on the back or sits in the hut listening to the radio which is why I wrote in the OP asking if someone would tell me who to contact. Someone ONE PERSON actually did answer my question which I appreciate and that is what I plan to do. So everyone feel free to continue this but since I actually did have a person kind enough to give me actual name(s) I will pursue it from there.

And just to end this as there is no need for any more replies I will say the actual MMP AKA GOLF CART PATH blind curve around Mallory is dangerous to walkers, runners and bicyclists and personally for me the hill going up the MMP heading south and north causes me bad pain in my knee & hip which is why EVERY DAY for the last almost 5 years I have avoided it by cutting it out using the "path/driveway/street/road/trail/cement/yellow brick road or whatever" that goes between the CC building and the golf course. After 5 years all of a sudden it's different per one guy. We have had a friendly relationship with every other guy in that hut for the last 5 years with NEVER an issue. Maybe this guy really was "The King of The Villages Golf." Avoiding that hill is one of the same reasons I bypass the hill into the tunnel at Stillwater and cross Morse traffic.

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Dude....time to give it up.....you are wrong...move on :bigbow:

Just carry a small golf bag on your back on your walk and no one will say a word to you!

YAY! FINALLY! Exactly my point. :a040::a040:
.... I think well over 4 years doing that should have set a precedent of some sort. :D :D[/QUOTE]

You should get an old putter from Goodwill or someplace and walk with it.
Then you would be fully in your rights to walk up to the putting green.
Maybe putt one shot and keep on walking...
:bigbow::bigbow:

What you mean to say is "trespassing on the golf cart path located entirely on the private property of Mallory Hill Country Club". There is no "path/driveway/street/road/trail/cement/yellow brick road or whatever", just the GOLF CART PATH with use restricted to golfers who paid a greens fee to play on the PRIVATE PROPERTY of that club. You can call it whatever you want, but anything other than a golf cart path on private property would be WRONG. So here are your choices:

1) You can walk on the MMP where you belong
2) You can walk elsewhere if you think it is safer
3) You can not walk
4) Or, and I'll bet this will be your choice since you refuse to listen to anyone but yourself, continue to illegally trespass on private property.

Please be careful not to get run over by a cart coming around the curve from the parking area whose driver was unprepared to avoid a trespasser, and pay attention to any golf balls coming at you from 9 of Caroline.

You should get an old putter from Goodwill or someplace and walk with it.
Then you would be fully in your rights to walk up to the putting green.
Maybe putt one shot and keep on walking...
:bigbow::bigbow:[/QUOTE]
Even better he could dress like Payne Stewart (god rest his soul) for the walk and he would fit right in!

I think the point is it is GOLF COURSE traffic-not multi modal path. Pedestrians out for their daily walk cannot be on golf course. It is simple, common sense. Common knowledge here even before I started playing golf.

Except it is not a public practice green, and he would have no right whatsoever to use it.

True but the professed “non golfer” would never go to the practice green just would fit in the scenery a little better. The obvious answer is just find somewhere else to walk

EdFNJ - 15
golfing eagles - 11

Seriously?????

More like:

EdFNJ 0, or possibly less than 0
golfing eagles 1,897,243
evreyone else 786,865

EdFNJ - 15
golfing eagles - 12

I repeat, seriously???????

One cannot be totally wrong on everything stated on this thread and have any score over ZERO

I don't golf, but I do like to walk. If ANYONE informed me that I was walking somewhere that I shouldn't be walking, I would thank them for letting me know and find somewhere else to walk (regardless if I had been walking in that area for years and no one told me sooner). There are plenty of beautiful places to walk around here.

Looks like a count of posts only, not a score

That's how I interpret it...

Nothing about the correct nature of the posts...

The Emperor isn't wearing any clothes.

Tell him that you and your wife are the King and Queen of the multi-modal paths and that he is trespassing on your property and that you have him outranked.

Good grief OP....I don't golf neither but if someone told me that I didn't belong in a place I wouldn't post on social media to complain, but would say "thank you" and have it further clarified by someone, such as the manager. Did the person who came out have a lime-green shirt on with kaiki pants on? He most likely was an golf course employee there so would know. I would suspect that path was an access between to get to the other course and not for pedestrians. Your argument could extend to folks who say "I walk on the path once the course closes because I like the views" . Still it's not allowed!!
Apparently you just like to argue!!!

Without a sign specifying “no pedestrians,” nothing can be done to stop someone from walking through. You’re always headed to the clubhouse, or bar/restaurant. Let them call the Sheriff.

As a former green shirt wearer, I can say there is something to give on both sides? (NOTE: I almost always agree with Doc, but I digress.) There are usually small(18"?) stone posts that read "Golf Course Traffic Only", at the entrance to any of the golf course(i.e. cement) paths.
I/we too, ask pedestrians(dog walkers) and/or bicyclists not to go onto golf course property(both Champ and Exec). However, that path he's referring to leads to the Club House and Restaurant. I don't know that there is anything wrong with a couple having a drink or dinner, who might be heading up there, or departing for home, to use it? What I find odd is that Starter was able to reach you? His shack is a bit out of the way from that path? Are we sure you didn't roam toward his shack more? As for the blind curves, that's pretty much the same for any bend that goes into/out of residential neighborhoods?! It's always a risk.

But alas, there IS something they could do. They could watch and see if you go to the restaurant or bar, or are just on a walk. Then they could call the sheriff. Why are some people hot to defend an action that is clearly wrong?

Wow…
 

There is so much….how shall I put it..lack of knowledge…in this post I don’t know where to begin.
“Man in gazebo” is a trained golf employee, working “bag drop”. He is also trained for all other positions, so he KNOWS the rules.
Golf balls are not all white.
You are trespassing.
Golf PRO is also the manager of each Country Club.
Stop embarrassing yourself with uneducated posts, educate yourself..and stop trespassing.



NO! WHY? you asked .......... . I'll tell you. BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA WHAT OR WHO "THE PRO AT MALLORY IS" or what he does or looks like or where he lives as I don't play golf. The only "pros" I am aware of are those who get paid for playing golf like you see on television. Does the "pro" actually make The Villages rules that apply to all the Villages golf properties or just regurgitate what they "should be or probably are" like most here are doing because it says somewhere that only golfers who read them are aware of that says you can't walk on a GOLF COURSE.

For all I know the "PRO" was the guy who drives around in the golf cart with the water barrel on the back or sits in the hut listening to the radio which is why I wrote in the OP asking if someone would tell me who to contact. Someone ONE PERSON actually did answer my question which I appreciate and that is what I plan to do. So everyone feel free to continue this but since I actually did have a person kind enough to give me actual name(s) I will pursue it from there.

And just to end this as there is no need for any more replies I will say the actual MMP AKA GOLF CART PATH blind curve around Mallory is dangerous to walkers, runners and bicyclists and personally for me the hill going up the MMP heading south and north causes me bad pain in my knee & hip which is why EVERY DAY for the last almost 5 years I have avoided it by cutting it out using the "path/driveway/street/road/trail/cement/yellow brick road or whatever" that goes between the CC building and the golf course. After 5 years all of a sudden it's different per one guy. We have had a friendly relationship with every other guy in that hut for the last 5 years with NEVER an issue. Maybe this guy really was "The King of The Villages Golf." Avoiding that hill is one of the same reasons I bypass the hill into the tunnel at Stillwater and cross Morse traffic.

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“Could” and “would” are vastly different responses. It “clearly” is not wrong to walk through, but may not be all that safe on that particular path, which I know well.

It also is perfectly fine to grab a putter and practice on the “practice” greens without issue.

You’re using a “country club” mentality on courses that are pretty much glorified public golf course.

Probably the same reason some would defend driving 40mph on Buena Vista even though it is clearly wrong.

The OP is in the wrong (though he has made it clear that he won't accept that) but is walking on that golf cart path really worth calling the sheriff?

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The Villages enforce its golf course trespassing rules to mitigate liability. If your are trespassing and injured by a golf cart driver our hit by an errant golf ball, you may have an injury claim. Unless they enforce their no trespassing rules. Just accept that you are incorrect and move on.
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE POST A LINK TO THESE "RULES" ??? They don't seem to exist in writing. I believe that when I see it in writing or on a posted sign THEN it is time to "move on." Everything else is just assumptions and quoting of "local rules."
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No, as I have no idea who or what or where they are and did ASK that question in my OP, who to contact. As I mention, we are not golfers.
Start with the Mallory hill Pro, Brady Godfrey, very nice person, call him or stop in. He can answer your questions or will refer you to whom to see.
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WILL SOMEONE PLEASE POST A LINK TO THESE "RULES" ??? They don't seem to exist in writing. I believe that when I see it in writing or on a posted sign THEN it is time to "move on." Everything else is just assumptions and quoting of "local rules."
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• Golf courses are restricted to golfing traffic only.
• Please refrain from riding, biking, fishing, walking or
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• Pets are not permitted on golf courses or practice facilities
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We have rules here for a reason, here are the rules, like them or not.....

I wasn't going to reply anymore but you hit the proverbial nail on the head. THANK YOU! Obviously, "liability" isn't the issue. IN FACT the sign at the entrance on the MMP to that "path/street/driveway/cement path or whatever" specifically tells you to use that entrance to go to the COUNTRY CLUB AND THE PRO SHOP which also has a restroom. As stated before, IT WAS THE GAZEBO GUY IN THE PARKING LOT. Never went within 100 yards of the "starter shack". I would never do that since it is right ON THE GOLF COURSE! Guess they have to remove that sign from the MMP that tells you to use THAT entrance as well and not let anyone go to the CC or shop like a pro if they don't want anyone to use that "path/sidewalk/trail or cement driveway." It also doesn't say you have to DRIVE to the Country Club or the Pro shop using that entrance. LOL, maybe it's worth having the Gazebo Guy call the cops on me. Then maybe I could own part of the golf course. I wonder if "DAN" also does false arrests cases. :1rotfl: sorry Doc, I meant :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

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The golf course property is Private Property for use of golfers who have paid to use the course. You wouldn't
want people waling through your yard all the time. It is a liability issue.

So you think you should be able to walk wherever you want interesting and badmouth the starter for informing you of private property is the bad guy interesting again so everybody else is wrong and you were right!!!

LMAO, Everyone here has reading comprehension problems. It was Mallory parking lot Gazebo Guy not golf course Starter Guy.

Ed, while I generally agree with you on many topics, we differ here.

You are being very strict in your definition of golf COURSE, to be just the grass golfing surface, it appears.

FWIW, the vehicle code from my prior state defines the roadway as the entire width of the driving surface, from the center of the road (double yellows) past the shoulder, over the curb, across the sidewalk, across any median grass and ALLLLL the way to the absolute furthest edge of the right-of-way. ALL of that is within the definition of "Roadway," not just the driving surface lanes.

The beach is not just the exact point where the ocean meets the sand and air. It is generally considered to include the water, the sand, the bike path, the concession stand, the pathways, the parking lot, etc.

A country club is not just the area under roof, it is reasonably believed to include the entire property including all facilities, parking areas, driveways, easements, etc.

The examples, while not directly germane, show it is not unreasonable to assume that ALLL areas within the golf course perimeter, are indeed, "Golf course."

Additionally, FWIW, trespass is generally a law consisting of two elements: 1) Being in a place where you have no right to be, and; 2) Being asked/told/directed/advised to leave and refusing to do so. While no cop would ever arrest for trespass unless you refused repeated and escalated directives to remove yourself, an entity could have you "arrested" (detained and cited and then released upon that written promise to appear) as a private person's arrest. You have clearly violated Element 1, and admitted to Element 2. Yes, it would likely be found that you are henceforth actually trespassing.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but as an objective observer, I think yours has lost.

#1 you stated you won't reply anymore
#2 the "Gazebo Guy" as you call him, is a golf employee, he is the Bag Drop Attendant
#3 The Gazebo is the bag drop station
#4 It is on Golf Course property
#5 it is located right next to the golf shop where the managers work
#6 As stated many time all you needed to is go in the shop and asked a simple question
#7 oh well, you are the replying anymore