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Steve9930 03-13-2014 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 844708)
Who do you propose to be the licenseing agency?

Why are you saying I've proposed to be the licensing agency? I said if it runs on a public road the state should require it have a license. Now you have tracking of who owns the vehicle. Where do you see a problem?

Steve9930 03-13-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 844607)
Looking at their website it appears they have a very large police force.

If Peachtree City has a police force, then Peachtree is a true city. They have the authority to issue regulations and laws. The Villages is a CDD. They do not have the same authority as a city or county. I do not believe The Villages would be able to do what Peachtree has done.

Steve9930 03-13-2014 01:20 PM

There have been a few posts about Peachtree City so I went up and checked out their website. They are in fact a real city. Therefore they can issue such requirements as the Golf Cart sticker. The sticker is $12 per year with a $5 transfer fee. Evidently there are also people who do not live in Peachtree City but do have access to the Golf Cart Paths. Their fee is $60 per year since they do not pay Peachtree City Property taxes. So the Peachtree City Golf Cart paths are open to all.

bluedog103 03-13-2014 01:57 PM

Who would enforce this sort of thing? Not Community watch, they have no enforcement authority. Not the State Police, Florida doesn't require golf cart registration or identification. Not the Sheriff, there's no county law requiring this and we have three counties to convince of the necessity. Not the local police departments for the same reasons above. Any local requirement would be a farce without any means of enforcement. Further, despite "The Gate" there are many carts from outside TV on our local streets. Also, there are many cart rental businesses in the area who routinely drop off rentals in TV. I really don't see cart registration or a cart I.D. requirement ever happening.

Bogie Shooter 03-13-2014 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 844671)
Personally I believe all Golf Carts that will be driven on a public street should be licensed and have proof of insurance. Just because a vehicle is limited in speed does not mean it is limited in its ability to cause a problem. Put a license plate on it even if its a Motor Cycle Tag. I would bet that most of the carts now are illegal anyway. To be classified as a Golf Cart it must not be capable of exceeding a maximum speed. I've clocked plenty that were well over the 19 MPH and no plate on the back of the cart. Insure it and license it if it goes on any street.

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 844781)
Why are you saying I've proposed to be the licensing agency? I said if it runs on a public road the state should require it have a license. Now you have tracking of who owns the vehicle. Where do you see a problem?

Just wondering who would issue these license plates?
Don't see a problem yet.

Steve9930 03-13-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 844834)
Just wondering who would issue these license plates?
Don't see a problem yet.

Who issues your plate for your automobile?

Bogie Shooter 03-13-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 844846)
Who issues your plate for your automobile?

Is that who you think should issue the plates?

graciegirl 03-13-2014 03:38 PM

Steve, How would you do it in Stonecrest?

Big O 03-13-2014 04:09 PM

Ok, so we pay 8 bucks for a sticker and hire a police force to enforce the golf cart laws. Then we find out that that 8 bucks is not enough to pay for the police force since we began allowing double dip pensions. The politicians start looking at bicycles, since they use the roadways too. So we then start charging 25 bucks for golf carts and eight for bicycles. Then of course we need more law enforcement. By this time a new contract is negotiated increasing......ad infinitum.

rubicon 03-13-2014 04:15 PM

Perhaps the genesis for speaking with the district and eventually Community Watch concerning identification of cart/cart owners started when I learned that a guy from Oxford who could not drive a car because he was legally blind switched to a golf cart and began using our multi-modal pathways until he ran down a pedestrian.

I believe this issue should be explored for its administration, costs, etc

It can be managed and I know that personally for me if I am in an accident with another cart I want to know who it is and an exchange of information including a golf cart ID would be beneficial. This program can be managed and I do not believe it has to cost that much.

I have to stop my wife says dinner is ready

Bogie Shooter 03-13-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 844893)
Perhaps the genesis for speaking with the district and eventually Community Watch concerning identification of cart/cart owners started when I learned that a guy from Oxford who could not drive a car because he was legally blind switched to a golf cart and began using our multi-modal pathways until he ran down a pedestrian.

I believe this issue should be explored for its administration, costs, etc

It can be managed and I know that personally for me if I am in an accident with another cart I want to know who it is and an exchange of information including a golf cart ID would be beneficial. This program can be managed and I do not believe it has to cost that much.

I have to stop my wife says dinner is ready

But how will Steve9930 from Stonecrest be able to get a license if it is administrated by the District?

Steve9930 03-13-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 844907)
But how will Steve9930 from Stonecrest be able to get a license if it is administrated by the District?

Steve from Stonecrest does not need a license from the administration District. Since I do not drive my Golf Cart on your golf cart paths. Don't need to do so. Also the district may provide a sticker to its residents for its own purpose.

Steve9930 03-13-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 844863)
Is that who you think should issue the plates?

The state is the only one with authority to issue plates. Who else would issue a plate? The carts are on public roads just like any other vehicle. A little more revenue for the state would not hurt. The carts are using public roads so they can pay for some of the road maintenance via a license. Gets in my pocket book also. I don't have a problem with the idea. Maybe the state should also issue a special drivers license for Golf Carts used on public roads. This way it will improve safety by having to be tested just like driving a car or motorcycle.

TNLAKEPANDA 03-13-2014 06:30 PM

Bad idea IMHO?... We do not need to go there. Already to much control being levied on us all. 99% of the drivers out there are fine!

rubicon 03-14-2014 05:34 AM

What I have learned is when someone says why there isn't a problem you learn that there isn't problems immediately apparent to viewers.

The district issues resident identification and guest passes on a daily basis some folks here are trying to complicate the process. I believe it is an excellent idea to identify who are using private multi-modal pathways. I reject the fly by the pants philosophy expressed by some here. I suspect that those fulltime residents find a greater need than others.

This program does not need to cost that much can be merged with present programs in place now and I am not advocating any kind of vehicle registration just identification. In fact the Districts were remissed in not doing this at the outset. Rental carts by homeowner have the homeowner's ID and for public each rental cart has an assigned ID. There are many safety issue, emergency issues, etc that can be developed. I mean if you find something out of the ordinary and call for assistance and all you can say is its a black cart with black and gold sunbrella well you have narrowed it down to about 10,000 carts

Finally I am not heavily invested here but I do believe it should be explored at the district level to determine if it I workable and cost efficient. In other words don't dismiss it out of hand.

I got to go now my wife is calling me for breakfast


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