That may be true, but the rep is still going to be blamed. It is pretty clear that the developers are having reps say whatever they think will sell the houses. They told us in 2012 that build out would be in 5 years max. How many lies does the developers have to tell you before you begin to understand what you/they are doing? If you keep working and keep passing on the lies, well, you’re going to get blamed.

What is the consequence of getting “blamed”? I would guess there isn’t any consequence. Would you have purchased your home if you knew The Villages was going to continue to grow? I suspect the answer is “yes” for most people. We bought in 2014 and was told “build out” was coming soon. I didn’t believe it and doubt many others did either.

The Villages has all the inspectors lined up so "waiting" isn't an issue. This is simply a matter of misinformation given to agents and the general public. Yes the bridges may go up by mid to end of 2020 but the ramps and connectivity to them is another issue. I'm glad I don't live south of 44 because unless you want to drive a car you have no other infrastructure or options.

We purchased in Marsh Bend in August, and are full time as of January.

The bridge connectivity was part of our decision process but not the primary one. The home, the new neighbors, Everglades Rec Center, and walking trails were key factors for us.

We only have a car and bikes so far, but the golf cart is ordered. We don't mind the drive for shopping, entertainment, or doctor visits.

We expect it will be better, eventually. In the meantime, we are enjoying everything!

Construction is always a very risky business that is fraught with unexpected situations and delays. The beautiful new south end homes were sold at significant discounts for good reasons. How would a sales agent know where the developer will stop building? Why would anyone believe such assertions?

Could the bridge construction delays be an after-effect of the bridge collapse in Miami? We should hope that it caused reassessments of the safety of all new bridges.

The developer has nothing to gain— and much to lose—from delaying golf cart connectivity and retail services.

I agree with Graciegirl (thank you!) The Villages is a beautiful, wonderful community. The developer’s family has done an excellent job of creating an affordable, livable hometown while protecting not only their investment but the investments of everyone who buys property or who opens a store. And they have attracted so many nice, loving, happy, blessed people! It’s a pretty darn nice place to be, this side of heaven.

How many Roadways, Bridges & Buildings in Florida and for that matter all states are completed on time. Bet you could count them on 1 hand. You have a car be happy so it's a little drive by car. When the bridges and paths are complete it's going to take longer then in your car to get where you want to get unless you have one of those souped up illegal golf carts. As for the shopping center it till will come in time. Moved here fulltime in 09 was told building will stop at 466a. Don't think all my furniture was moved in and they were clearing property south of 466a. Everything will come be patient we're on our final journey and I'm in no hurry to see the end of it.

Funny
 

That’s funny. When we decided to move here in 1999, we were told there wasn’t going to be anything beyond 466. See how that worked out!

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No. 44 was to end with 110,000 people. I moved last straw was Pineridge in Lake near Colony.

Villages sales agents are not construction people..
Your wait time is what it is.. best bet another yr or could be more..

I am on the list for golf cart parking at the Orlando airport.

They are a company that makes money and will continue to sell their product until it stops making money. The real issue going forward will be water and is there going to be enough for all these people.

That’s hilarious!!

Thank you

Do you live here? There are miles of MPP’s in Marsh Bend, Linden, Monarch Grove! Wrong answer!

and we were told in 2004 that the build out would be 210

MCO golf cart parking
 

Better get the super-extended-range model LOL

Brownwood bridge
 

I plan to move in May to DeLuna I was told it would be done then! I am learning these developers are turning out to be liers. Maybe we should introduce a class action lawsuit to stop the lying! I expected to be told the truth! Same with the Magnolia plaza, I was told both would be completed by May 2020! Any good lawyers out there? How about we not pay our CCD fees until projects are completed when they tell us!

True, but they do not go North towards Route 44 yet. The connections between those MMPs/roads and the Route 44 bridges is required for them to finish the MPPs that connect to the South. I'm not talking about the overall number and length of MPPs in the Southern area. It's the connectors to the North that are required.

There is no rush to complete the ramps for the Paddock Square bridge as there is nowhere to go until they get the bridge across the turnpike completed. That entire area from 44 down to Warm Springs east of the Turnpike is undeveloped and to get over to Southern Oaks and Fenney you need to cross the turnpike so that connection is at a standstill until the turnpike bridge is erected. Chitty Chatty is now working on the MMP's to connect to the Rohan/Lake Deaton Plaza bridge after it's erected so I would say that will be the first connection but it's a very long golf car ride to Paddock Square as you have to go all the way up to Moyer to go west. It will be even longer from Bradford.

That's because most likely, the bridges aren't a priority. In my opinion I think building the ramps would be the easiest part of getting the bridges ready for use.

I agree that a lawsuit is needed. What happened here smells like…
Fraud - /frôd/ - noun -wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

Last I knew fraud was illegal and against seniors in Florida is a big no-no. It all boils down to when they knew they would not meet the January 2020 date and how did they communicate it to sales and potential buyers. A lawsuit discovery and depositions of the salespeople, planners and records will ferret this out.

I personally think they mislead people to keep sales going. If they had told me it would be another 2 years for connectivity is usable, I would have chosen a place north of 44.

Too Funny
 

These threads are entertaining to read, and all have the same pattern -
1. Someone gripes to get stuff off their chest.
2. A few people, all with less than 10 posts, say stupid stuff including something to the effect that they were promised something by a sales agent, which we all know is not true, since agents don't make promises, they don't have to. They may have given their best guess when the buyer pressed them. Sales agents don't know any more than the general public more than a week out.
3. Gracie Girl is her usual sweet self.... and makes intelligent corrections to those in point 2.
4. Someone critisizes the grandkids of the developer as greedy.
5. People that have been here since the 90's point out NOTHING has changed, which it hasn't, in how the developer operates. In other words, the Grandkids are the same as Harrold and Gary.
6. Someone points out that the developer always does keep their promises, just not maybe the schedule.
7. Someone threatens a lawsuit (which is unwinnable BTW).

We have missed the part about not enough amenties and Championship golf courses south of 44..... seems like an oversight. Would someone like to add that bit of Baloney to finish this off... then Goldwingnut can correct them and the Force will be in Balance once again...

Ed
(Laughing as the value of my houses in Fernandina and Hillsborough increase 7% or more per year, due to the "evil" developer).

What do retired people have but time, who cares if it’s a long ride, for some here, a golf cart ride is as easy as a 3 hour round of golf.

What exactly was the fraudulent (criminal deception) act???

We bought in Fenney in 2017 and were told the bridges would be done in January 2020. So it definitely has drifted. What bothers us the most is that Chitty Chatty and Bradford will be able to get over 44 before us....I'd say, just don't open the bridge ramps until all of them are built, then open them at the same time. Connectivity may not matter to some, but to others it is an important matter. A couple of month delay okay, a year is a big deal.

Considering moving to Villages
 

We were wondering if the hospital & medical facilities/doctors accept regular medicare with our supplement insurance, United Healthcare AARP Plan F. Also how many months of the year do people ride bikes there, and Pickle Ball before weather gets too hot? Also heard on a You Tube video you have to take a class, pretty expensive, before you can play. I've been playing Pickle Ball for 10 years, would I have to take that class? Are there long wait times to play and are there any indoor courts there? Look forward to your reply.

lgl52

I said it smells of fraud ... (alleged)

Fraud - /frôd/ - noun -wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

The published promise of connectivity (by Jan 2020) seems to be a reason many people purchased south of the turnpike.

Fraud would be taking our money IF they knew the connectivity could not meet the date they told us (it seems from responses to this forum there are many here where told the same date). And, this date was published on the sales map they handed out, so you cannot say we went on the verbal word of a salesperson.

Discovery will tell the who knew what then, and how that was communicated out. Like..when did they order new maps without the date?

If government entities are or were holding up completion there would be no deception or fraud. And, was it promised to be done by Jan 2020 or was it scheduled to be done by Jan.2020

And just what is it that you seek with this great lawsuit? Compensation?

No need for that, the villages will most likely build another MMP & another bridge over the turnpike going into the Okahumpka service plaza where you can fuel up on your way to and from MCO, it won't be far from the backyards of the soon to be built village of Bradford.

I love the snarky posts here. There are about three of us who mentioned lawsuit so 3 towels please, you actually may need to order a few more as people find this thread.

I posted my response to others who feel the same way to let them know they are not alone. If they want to get a class action thing going, I am in.

to me, it does not matter what caused the delay. What matters is when did they know it, and how did they communicate it to the buyers.

It would be nice for them to compensate us somehow. Maybe another food truck ...or a Mr. Softee ice cream truck (do they have these in FL?) . How about a band every now and then in the park or baseball fields. Honestly, it would not take a lot.

:clap2:"Your Honor, we are suing and seeking an ice cream truck." :clap2:

Bravo.

Why not start a personal lawsuit of your own. If you believe that there is a legal cause, go for it.

Get right on that. Keep us informed.

This is why some of us write the responses that we do. So many want to make a comment, but want someone else to take action.

You already have that.

In the open space left of the Fenney Rec Center, they sometimes have a group of musicians playing. We have been there twice, once for Irish music and the other time for Kingston Trio type of music. Both times they were EXCELLENT - much better than the exceedingly loud ****** music at the Squares.

In addition, Edna's also has good music. A few days ago, the guy singing John Lennon's song "Imagine" was very good.

Enjoy the things the Southern area has to offer, like the wonderful cart-free walking trails. We don't have those north of 44, unless you count our exciting concrete trail around Rohan.

Ok, which of you people that are threatening lawsuits has the cajones to scratch out a check - for a lot of money - to take on The Developer? You do know that FDOT is behind the delay of "The Bridge"?

My bet is no one has enough time left in their life, much less that kind of money, to take legal action on something that FDOT is delaying.

And I say Amen to that my brother.