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OrangeBlossomBaby 02-14-2020 10:20 PM

This isn't rocket science. If you want your golf cart set for higher than 20, you may. But you must do a bunch of other things in addition to setting it higher, in order for it to be legal to drive it on public roads at ANY speed. If you don't want to do those bunch of other things, then keep your golf cart set to 20 or lower, and all will be well.

Laker14 02-15-2020 05:21 AM

it's sensible to have a speed limit, and 20mph is a sensible speed limit. If the speed limit were 25, folks would want to go 30.
I'm far from convinced that ticketing folks for going 21 or 22 on Morse, when the cars are zipping by them at 15-20 mph faster makes sense. In some ways, it's the speed difference between auto traffic and bicycles and carts that contributes to the inherent danger.

Face it, there are places where going 20, or 18, or even 15 is dangerous, due to the road or path curving, or blind spots where you can't see pedestrians or bicycles. And there are places where going 22 or 23 would be perfectly safe.

The law is the law, and one breaks it at the risk of paying a steep fine, but the law doesn't necessarily reflect on the safety of the act, at a particular piece of roadway, or in a particular circumstance. When a cart pulls out in front of a car, and gets hit by the car, they aren't usually going in excess of the speed limit, but they are driving unsafely.

bagboy 02-15-2020 09:52 AM

Maybe that deputy was doing some "chain pulling". I have extreme doubts that any officer is going to pull over and ticket a golf cart doing 21 mph. Or even 23 down a hill.

EnglishJW 02-15-2020 12:10 PM

" Some snowbirds or others just don't care and they blow passed you on the street. " It must seem easy to blame eveything on the snowbirds. Our cart will do 20 - period. We are passed often at all times of the year. Are those snowbirds spending 12 months each year now?

Laker14 02-15-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EnglishJW (Post 1718327)
" Some snowbirds or others just don't care and they blow passed you on the street. " It must seem easy to blame eveything on the snowbirds. Our cart will do 20 - period. We are passed often at all times of the year. Are those snowbirds spending 12 months each year now?

I noticed that comment as well. I decided to let it pass. Those pesky snowbirds are supposed to stay up north and leave their houses vacant all 12 months of the year, while paying all of the yearly fees that keep The Villages running, instead of just leaving their houses vacant for 8 months, while paying all of the yearly fees.

Barefoot 02-15-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by patemack12 (Post 1716134)
They give most females warnings as long as they have not used drugs or alcohol but most males get ticketed.

That's a general statement. I'd like to see the research. :ohdear:

golfing eagles 02-16-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 1717151)
Ticket them all, on the cart paths or road. Also get them for not knowing what STOP means, blinkers are for, head lights are for and towels hanging over tail lights. No problem with making money off of it. Increase the fines and make them stick. If you do not break the law you have no worries.

Sorry, they don't give out civics awards on TOTV.

It seems that you proceed from the assumption that everyone driving, say on Buena Vista at 35 is a skilled, safe driver, but once the speedometer hits 36 they become reckless maniacs that should be thrown in jail.
However, driving skill is much more important than actual speed as far as safety goes. Personally, I'd rather be on BV in the vicinity of a NASCAR champion driving at 70 than most of the Villagers driving at 20.

eyc234 02-16-2020 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1718559)
Sorry, they don't give out civics awards on TOTV.

It seems that you proceed from the assumption that everyone driving, say on Buena Vista at 35 is a skilled, safe driver, but once the speedometer hits 36 they become reckless maniacs that should be thrown in jail.
However, driving skill is much more important than actual speed as far as safety goes. Personally, I'd rather be on BV in the vicinity of a NASCAR champion driving at 70 than most of the Villagers driving at 20.

Nope just saying if you can not do the time/pay the fine do not do the crime. Said nothing about safe or unsafe drivers. My thought is about a crime and breaking the law.

GatorFan 02-16-2020 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1716219)
Good for you.

But if you drive the speed limit in your car, you must be getting passed by lots of cars that aren’t getting ticketed too. :)

Bottom line. Golf carts are designed to be used on golf course and the law says max speed 20. It is a privilege to be able to mingle with autos in The Villages. That privilege can be taken away.

Follow the law.

golfing eagles 02-16-2020 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorFan (Post 1718669)
Bottom line. Golf carts are designed to be used on golf course and the law says max speed 20. It is a privilege to be able to mingle with autos in The Villages. That privilege can be taken away.

Follow the law.

Maybe the law is stupid and should be changed. Not necessarily the speed, but the phrase "capable of"

Polar Bear 02-16-2020 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorFan (Post 1718669)
Bottom line. Golf carts are designed to be used on golf course and the law says max speed 20. It is a privilege to be able to mingle with autos in The Villages. That privilege can be taken away.

Follow the law.

Not sure I understand the context of this post with respect to my post which it quoted. :)

GatorFan 02-17-2020 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1718676)
Maybe the law is stupid and should be changed. Not necessarily the speed, but the phrase "capable of"

You have the right to try and get the law changed. It is at this time the law.

Did you teach your children that some laws are stupid and it is okay to break them because you don’t agree with them? How bout your grandchildren?

golfing eagles 02-17-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorFan (Post 1718971)
You have the right to try and get the law changed. It is at this time the law.

Did you teach your children that some laws are stupid and it is okay to break them because you don’t agree with them? How bout your grandchildren?

Which is why my cart is set at 20, and I hope my children and grandchildren would do the same. Why would you assume I had any intention whatsoever of breaking the law? That doesn't change the fact that this law is poorly worded and should be revised.

roob1 02-18-2020 05:12 AM

According to the below link, it appears speed enforcement by the sheriff's dept. can not be performed on the MMP's.


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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1717106)
Yea, it seems that is quite normal around here. :D

Here is the link for those who have a search impairment: :) MMP ADOPTED RULES


coffeebean 02-18-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 1716471)
The other day I saw one on Rolling Acres going south, just before 466. No plate on back of cart. :shocked:

kathy

Just wondering if a street legal cart is supposed to have a plate stating that it is "STREET LEGAL". I once came upon a cart on Morse going around the circle heading towards 466. When the driver was stopped a the light at Morse and 466, I asked if his cart was Street Legal because I did not see a plate saying it was street legal. The driver told me he does not have to have a plate stating his cart is street legal and I was to mind my own business.

So......are street legal carts supposed to have a plate stating they are street legal?


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