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Himmelein 12-06-2021 08:52 AM

Golf Car Blinkers
 
You can make the same argument about people driving cars and not using turn signals, cutting across the right land from the left at Round-abouts, etc. Having been here four months, I feel far safedr on the cart paths than on some of the main roads.

Bottom line, NEVER assume ANYTHING, wait the extra couple of seconds to me sure what is happening with ANY vehicle.

billethkid 12-06-2021 08:53 AM

This subject does not make my list of concerns!!
:)

Ken D. 12-06-2021 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by William MacEntee (Post 2037080)
I bought turn signal beepers at the Village’s golf cart store for 7 or 8 dollars each and installed them myself. They are so load and annoying one must turn off the signal to silence them.

Now that's the solution. mine are noisy for good reason.

Waltdisney4life 12-06-2021 08:57 AM

You’re right this place sucks let’s move north! No takers just whiners!

lpkruege1 12-06-2021 09:03 AM

Who is at fault?
 
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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037006)
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.

At this point when I see a golf cart with a turn signal on when (for example) I am pulling out of my street or any street either in my cart or my car and the cart coming towards me has his right signal on the chances of him ACTUALLY taking a right turn is probably 80% which means if I pull out there is a 20% chance he (or she) is going to t-bone me.

I see this time after time. One has to assume the turn signals on the cart are on by mistake and assume the cart is going straight regardless of his signal. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone but even assuming 5% of them are on by mistake it makes it dangerous to assume ANY are actually turning when they are signalling.

What bought this on was today while walkng from Amelia to LSL (down O'Dell then on the Morse MMP to LSL) my wife and I counted FIVE CARTS on the O'Dell and Morse MMP passing by us with forever on turn signals out of probably 15 or 20.

So what good is having a turn signal if you can't trust it? Better that NO CART has one. I mean the number of signals left on for literally miles is amazing. YES, CARS DO IT AS WELL but very rarely do I see a car driving with endless turn signals (although sometimes they turn them on about 1/2 mile before the turn! :D

At least if NO ONE used them you would HAVE to wait until the cart either turned or passed. Yea, I know it is impossible to retroactively remove them all but everyone may as well not use them as they are totally worthless if they can't be "trusted" 98% of the time.

Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."

The key here who's at fault if you pull out in front of oncoming traffic? This is no different between that golf cart and a car coming at you. If you can't pull out safely, DON'T do it. Is it worth the court costs and possible death of another villager? Slow down, take a breath, and understand you may be saving a life.

fdpaq0580 12-06-2021 09:08 AM

Thank you.
 
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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 2037124)
I believe it's sung by UB40 !:)

"Red Red Wine."
Thanks!

Calisport 12-06-2021 09:14 AM

The new carts like the Star have self cancelling turn signals. I'm sure the rest will follow. We need signals.

MDLNB 12-06-2021 09:24 AM

I had led "liquid lights" installed on our cart with some put on the inside roof support. They are hooked up to the turn signal and are very bright and flash on the inside of the cart. Can't miss them. The cart also came with a loud turn signal beep.
I agree with the poster that asked why everyone is in such a hurry that they can't be patient with those that forget to turn off their signals. Just like in the stores while shopping, when folks say "sorry" or "excuse me" when maneuvering a shopping cart, I respond "no big deal, I'm retired and in no hurry." I have plenty of time, I think.

Does anyone ever notice that some folks just HAVE to complain about insignificant issues? I don't know about the rest of you, but I never thought that I would ever live long enough to enjoy my retirement, and I really do enjoy being retired. Talk about being blessed!
If I was put on the spot to complain about anything related to golf cart traffic, I guess the only gripe I have is how many driving a golf cart do not believe that STOP signs pertain to them and just breeze right through without even slowing down. I just shake my head and wonder what kind of hurry would cause someone to jeopardize their safety. On the other hand, stupid actions only serve to prolong the longevity of Social Security.

airstreamingypsy 12-06-2021 09:27 AM

My personal rule, when driving, is.... if I don't see the blinker actually go on, I assume it's been on for miles, hours... days. I act accordingly.

DAVES 12-06-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037006)
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.

At this point when I see a golf cart with a turn signal on when (for example) I am pulling out of my street or any street either in my cart or my car and the cart coming towards me has his right signal on the chances of him ACTUALLY taking a right turn is probably 80% which means if I pull out there is a 20% chance he (or she) is going to t-bone me.

I see this time after time. One has to assume the turn signals on the cart are on by mistake and assume the cart is going straight regardless of his signal. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone but even assuming 5% of them are on by mistake it makes it dangerous to assume ANY are actually turning when they are signalling.

What bought this on was today while walkng from Amelia to LSL (down O'Dell then on the Morse MMP to LSL) my wife and I counted FIVE CARTS on the O'Dell and Morse MMP passing by us with forever on turn signals out of probably 15 or 20.

So what good is having a turn signal if you can't trust it? Better that NO CART has one. I mean the number of signals left on for literally miles is amazing. YES, CARS DO IT AS WELL but very rarely do I see a car driving with endless turn signals (although sometimes they turn them on about 1/2 mile before the turn! :D

At least if NO ONE used them you would HAVE to wait until the cart either turned or passed. Yea, I know it is impossible to retroactively remove them all but everyone may as well not use them as they are totally worthless if they can't be "trusted" 98% of the time.

Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."

REALITY, you are in control of what you do. Others there is what they are supposed to do a totally different thing. Turn signals? An endless debate. I doubt many people in cars or golf carts could/would pass a driver's test. Turn signals people who use them are rare. People who use them properly are like an endangered species.

People who know the law and follow it are also an endangered species. As far as a golf cart. A golf cart is the bottom of the totem pole. A car a, pedestrian and even a bicycle have the right of way. A signal, light or hand signal does not change the situation.
The golf cart yields to the car. That does not mean that when a car driver sees that a golf cart is announcing his DESIRE to cut in the car should slow down and give the golf cart room to do it safely.

Any vehicle with a turn signal, I let them start the turn before assuming they have truly decided they are turning and will not as we've all seen start a turn to the left and then change their mind and go right or go straight or??????????.

PaulinTV 12-06-2021 09:45 AM

Caution ahead
 
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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2037024)
I don't ever trust turn signals on any vehicle until I see them actually commit to turning. Also the self canceling mechanism for signals on carts are finicky and sometimes need to be adjusted or replaced.

I completely agree and that goes for CARS/TRUCKS on the roadways as well. I NEVER trust a turn signal until I see the driver commit to the turn, right hand or left hand.

You can wait behind me for a few seconds or be the witness at the scene and in court for hours and days. Be a defensive driver I was always taught.

DAVES 12-06-2021 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2037182)
I had led "liquid lights" installed on our cart with some put on the inside roof support. They are hooked up to the turn signal and are very bright and flash on the inside of the cart. Can't miss them. The cart also came with a loud turn signal beep.
I agree with the poster that asked why everyone is in such a hurry that they can't be patient with those that forget to turn off their signals. Just like in the stores while shopping, when folks say "sorry" or "excuse me" when maneuvering a shopping cart, I respond "no big deal, I'm retired and in no hurry." I have plenty of time, I think.

Does anyone ever notice that some folks just HAVE to complain about insignificant issues? I don't know about the rest of you, but I never thought that I would ever live long enough to enjoy my retirement, and I really do enjoy being retired. Talk about being blessed!
If I was put on the spot to complain about anything related to golf cart traffic, I guess the only gripe I have is how many driving a golf cart do not believe that STOP signs pertain to them and just breeze right through without even slowing down. I just shake my head and wonder what kind of hurry would cause someone to jeopardize their safety. On the other hand, stupid actions only serve to prolong the longevity of Social Security.

HUM and some regularly complain while accusing others of complaining.

DAVES 12-06-2021 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Himmelein (Post 2037158)
You can make the same argument about people driving cars and not using turn signals, cutting across the right land from the left at Round-abouts, etc. Having been here four months, I feel far safedr on the cart paths than on some of the main roads.

Bottom line, NEVER assume ANYTHING, wait the extra couple of seconds to me sure what is happening with ANY vehicle.

I humbly suggest you read up on round a bouts. The proper procedure according to me, is nuts but they do have the right to make a right hand turn from the left hand land. Like most driving, assuming the other driver know the rules and more important, will follow them is a reach.

asianthree 12-06-2021 10:14 AM

Sorry OP we use both hand and turn signals. Yesterday while turning left from car lane, into postal center, using both hand and turn signal a car passed me on the LEFT (double yellow) as I was about to turn. Scared the crap out of us. My rider took pictures with phone, Florida plate, so full time in FL, with two people inside.

So guessing some who live here hates carts so much they are happy to run them over to decrease carts on the road, or not happy I was using hand signals.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-06-2021 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 2037006)
This may look or sound like a troll post but it really isn't meant to be. More like a rant and a safety warning. Having turn signals on golf carts is, in reality is both useless and dangerous.

At this point when I see a golf cart with a turn signal on when (for example) I am pulling out of my street or any street either in my cart or my car and the cart coming towards me has his right signal on the chances of him ACTUALLY taking a right turn is probably 80% which means if I pull out there is a 20% chance he (or she) is going to t-bone me.

I see this time after time. One has to assume the turn signals on the cart are on by mistake and assume the cart is going straight regardless of his signal. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone but even assuming 5% of them are on by mistake it makes it dangerous to assume ANY are actually turning when they are signalling.

What bought this on was today while walkng from Amelia to LSL (down O'Dell then on the Morse MMP to LSL) my wife and I counted FIVE CARTS on the O'Dell and Morse MMP passing by us with forever on turn signals out of probably 15 or 20.

So what good is having a turn signal if you can't trust it? Better that NO CART has one. I mean the number of signals left on for literally miles is amazing. YES, CARS DO IT AS WELL but very rarely do I see a car driving with endless turn signals (although sometimes they turn them on about 1/2 mile before the turn! :D

At least if NO ONE used them you would HAVE to wait until the cart either turned or passed. Yea, I know it is impossible to retroactively remove them all but everyone may as well not use them as they are totally worthless if they can't be "trusted" 98% of the time.

Hand signals (if you know them) are fine but stop using those useless "blinkers."

There's nothing wrong with the turn signals. There's everything wrong with the driver. Anyone who's driven a golf cart more than a week, should already be in the habit of turning the signal off either while you're making the turn, or immediately after making the turn.

It takes 10 repetitions of a ritual before it becomes habit. Those folks who never turn their signals off, are people who have never tried to turn their signals off.

Everyone forgets once in awhile. But there are repeat offenders who need someone in authority to start handing out tickets for that. You're right. It's dangerous. Get caught once, get a warning and a note added to your ID (or drivers license if you don't have a villagers ID). Get caught twice, get a written warning and added note to the ID. Third time - you get a ticket and pay a fine.

By the third time, the police or community watch will know to actively look for your golf cart. You will automatically be under suspicion so get with the program, or pay a bigger fine.

Refusal to pay fines could result in your gate passes being invalidated, and future guest passes recalled/rejected.


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