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Barefoot 05-20-2019 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TomSwango (Post 1651098)
Speeding in golf carts, as well as cars, is a problem in the villages

Welcome to TOTV. :welcome:

Quixote 05-20-2019 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthJerseyGirl (Post 1651217)
Relax and let them pass.

This couldn't have been said any better. One thing I do is pull over for a half a minute to allow a cart close behind me to pass. Just a courtesy—and a safety one at that. I was once out with my grandson, age 16, showing him pointers of golf cart driving when someone chomping at the bit zoomed past us to make a left turn—and a case of some beverage in glass bottles went sliding off his cart and smashed into the curb. What a mess! My grandson and I had the 'courtesy' to wait till we were out of hearing range to laugh our heads off!


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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1651255)
I'm sure it's wonderful for people who are retired, with all the time and money in the world to do whatever they want, whenever they like, and relax and enjoy their lives.

But some of us still have to work for a living. This isn't a retirement community. It's a 55+ community. And social security doesn't kick in til you're 62, minimum. Medicare takes even longer.

I'm sorry, you've lost me; yes, of course there are people in TV who still work, but what does this have to do with the subject? Surely you're not suggesting that people going to work have a special dispensation to speed rather than leaving enough time so they don't have to?

two2jacks 05-20-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1648884)
Some people have a hard time retiring. Passing someone is just a macho display of their shortcomings. Just smile and find joy in the fact that you are more mature than hot rod Henry or Henrietta.

It's like speeding on the freeway.... do 85 mph long enough and you will pay the price. We might just need a few more cart speed traps!

dianebgolfer 05-20-2019 07:02 PM

Did you think the others are going 10-15? The rental carts are made to go slower.

MEbner2805 05-20-2019 08:05 PM

The street legal golf carts could be faster in a lot of cases, so it may be a non-issue. Let people pass as it’s not worth road rage fights. We are retired so just take like easy going.

DaleDivine 05-20-2019 08:39 PM

I haven't seen it mentioned, but Brownwood cart store will increase the governor so that your cart can travel at speeds up to 25 MPH. You just have to sign a waiver. They ask you if you want it done and then charge about $25 to do it. Doesn't affect the warranty. And also if you're in an accident or stopped for some infraction, they CANNOT tell how fast the cart was going.
And I think a lot of people are in a hurry to get things done while they're able to do so.
Just pull over and let them pass, just like you do in your car on a highway.

EdFNJ 05-20-2019 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 1651362)
IAnd also if you're in an accident or stopped for some infraction, they CANNOT tell how fast the cart was going.

I read somewhere the coppers can use a new fangled device called ray-dar or something that shows how fast you are going. I read about it on the inter-rent or whatever it's called so it must be true. ;)

Marathon Man 05-20-2019 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Quixote (Post 1651328)
I'm sorry, you've lost me; yes, of course there are people in TV who still work, but what does this have to do with the subject? Surely you're not suggesting that people going to work have a special dispensation to speed rather than leaving enough time so they don't have to?

Uh. Yea. I think maybe that was the suggestion.

Bay Kid 05-21-2019 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1651326)
Welcome to TOTV. :welcome:

Not just TVs, everywhere!

birdiebill 05-21-2019 06:55 AM

Speeding in a golf cart is not the issue. The issue is driving an unregistered "Low Speed Vehicle." You can not drive a "golf cart" faster than 20 mph. If it goes faster than 20 mph on level ground, it is a Low Speed Vehicle, not a golf cart. Register the LSV and no problem.

BobnBev 05-21-2019 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by birdiebill (Post 1651406)
Speeding in a golf cart is not the issue. The issue is driving an unregistered "Low Speed Vehicle." You can not drive a "golf cart" faster than 20 mph. If it goes faster than 20 mph on level ground, it is a Low Speed Vehicle, not a golf cart. Register the LSV and no problem.

You're partially right. To register a golf cart as a LSV, it has to be electric, not gas, and have all the modifications required. Plus you need proof of insurance before you can register it.

photo1902 05-21-2019 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1651407)
You're partially right. To register a golf cart as a LSV, it has to be electric, not gas, and have all the modifications required. Plus you need proof of insurance before you can register it.

Nope. A LSV can be gas or electric.

red tail 05-21-2019 07:30 AM

lsv info
 
Florida Golf Cart & Low Speed Vehicle Laws | Golf Cart Laws by State

New Englander 05-21-2019 08:23 AM

Most everybody passes me because I drive a golf cart 15 MPH. When somebody goes to pass I slow down more so they can pass quicker. I'm retired and not in a hurry. IMO golf carts are not made to handle the speeds some people drive them.

BlkBlt6 05-21-2019 08:59 AM

Walkers in peril
 
I appreciate golf car drivers that slow down when passing walkers on the modals. There have been times that a golf car drove so fast and close to me as I walk that I had to jump out of the way.

willis100 05-21-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1651063)
Why not ask yourself why you are upset because a golf cart passed you. If you are going the speed you like then so what if someone goes by. There is a certain "competitiveness" and you probably view it as an insult that someone had the nerve to actually go faster than you? The more serious question is not that a cart passed you but rather why are you upset they did. Just another indication that you are unsettled with yourself and have adopted an attitude that is unhealthy. It's best not to try to analyze why someone has the need to go faster but again why do you care and what is the underlying cause of your anxious attitude? Be thankful for what you have and your ability to just enjoy life!!!:ho:

Very best answer I have read on this ever repeating subject.....thanks

photo1902 05-21-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by willis100 (Post 1651468)
Very best answer I have read on this ever repeating subject.....thanks

:bigbow:

EdFNJ 05-21-2019 11:24 AM

Golf carts Passing
 
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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1651411)
Nope. A LSV can be gas or electric.



I’m sure you are correct but yet I have never seen a gas LSV (and I do look). Doesn’t mean there aren’t any but i check the many I have seen on the road with FL plates. Maybe because most of the gas carts around here don’t have available the required safety features like an actual 1 piece full windshield with DOT approved safety glass. A lot of the required specs have changed recently according to the folks in Ocala when mine had to go in for a “pre-approval” inspection because the 2 models I have weren’t on the state pre-checked approval list.


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Quixote 05-21-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by birdiebill (Post 1651406)
Speeding in a golf cart is not the issue. The issue is driving an unregistered "Low Speed Vehicle." You can not drive a "golf cart" faster than 20 mph. If it goes faster than 20 mph on level ground, it is a Low Speed Vehicle, not a golf cart. Register the LSV and no problem.


However, to register it is not so simple. If it is a 'low speed vehicle' rather than a 'golf cart,' then besides registration it requires seat belts, insurance, and I can't remember what else. A few years ago I remember speed traps for golf carts; speeding in a golf cart resulted in FIVE tickets, each of which was $250+. I laugh my head off when I see or hear these stories. The golf cart speed limit is 20 MPH. Period.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-21-2019 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Quixote (Post 1651328)
This couldn't have been said any better. One thing I do is pull over for a half a minute to allow a cart close behind me to pass. Just a courtesy—and a safety one at that. I was once out with my grandson, age 16, showing him pointers of golf cart driving when someone chomping at the bit zoomed past us to make a left turn—and a case of some beverage in glass bottles went sliding off his cart and smashed into the curb. What a mess! My grandson and I had the 'courtesy' to wait till we were out of hearing range to laugh our heads off!




I'm sorry, you've lost me; yes, of course there are people in TV who still work, but what does this have to do with the subject? Surely you're not suggesting that people going to work have a special dispensation to speed rather than leaving enough time so they don't have to?

Here's the post I was responding to, which was part of my post (I quoted it then). Bold and italicized for emphasisl Maybe you'll not be lost if you focus on the context:

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Originally Posted by PennBF View Post
What it wrong with us? We work hard for many years finally retire and move to The Villages and it starts: You drive as fast as you can in the Golf Carts, you push your way through the Grocery Store, you push in line at the movies, get drunk at the Squares and miss the fun of the night,gripe about that lousy shopper that is walking too slow, drive your cars like this is a long race way and we have to beat the other guy, you can finish the rest. OH Yea, end up at the cardiologist and claim you don't know why your heart is racing? Please slow down and begin to enjoy the years you worked so hard for. You sit in a restaurant and gripe about the slow service as though you have somewhere to go. You sit at a table and watch
a diner near by and their leg is shaking a mile a minute. That is a good indication of "anxiety" and sad to watch. It is a hard job to adjust your life to enjoy the times as opposed to rushing everywhere. Just say to your self to "slowdown" and give the server a break. You will feel so much better.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-21-2019 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1651376)
Uh. Yea. I think maybe that was the suggestion.

The suggestion is that people who want to relax and enjoy and never feel a need to get from point A to point B at any particular time since they're retired - not feel entitled to whine about people who actually have places to go, and deadlines to meet. Because, as I said, this is NOT a "retirement" community. It's a 55+ community, and many people still work, and need to get to work on time, and give themselves enough time to get to work - UNTIL someone decides they want to go only 10mph because they're retired and not in a hurry with no place to go.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-21-2019 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1651433)
Most everybody passes me because I drive a golf cart 15 MPH. When somebody goes to pass I slow down more so they can pass quicker. I'm retired and not in a hurry. IMO golf carts are not made to handle the speeds some people drive them.

This is the courteous thing to do. It's what I do when I'm just enjoying a relaxing golf cart ride, or if I think I took a wrong turn and need to get my bearings before going back up to the normal 18-19mph speed.

EdFNJ 05-21-2019 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Quixote (Post 1651538)
However, to register it is not so simple. If it is a 'low speed vehicle' rather than a 'golf cart,' then besides registration it requires seat belts, insurance, and I can't remember what else. A few years ago I remember speed traps for golf carts; speeding in a golf cart resulted in FIVE tickets, each of which was $250+. I laugh my head off when I see or hear these stories. The golf cart speed limit is 20 MPH. Period.

It's not difficult at all, just relatively expensive. If it is a model already on the state's "approved list" you just walk into any agency and register it like a car. If it is not (like mine) it needs to be trucked up to Ocala for inspection (by appointment). They look at it while it is on the flatbed and make sure it has DOT front windshield glass and tires, a few reflectors, side view mirrors, seat belts, turn signals, and a few other things and they OK it. It seems it takes like 5 minutes once it is there.

DaleDivine 05-22-2019 07:24 AM

Another thing. It is unlawful to cross over the solid line on a diamond trail. Butttttt, how many people have crossed over the solid line to pass a bicycle going 5 MPH?
If you have, YOU just broke the law. If you don't pass them, there would be a mile long backup of golf carts.

charmed59 05-22-2019 07:55 AM

I don’t mind folks driving 15mph. Heck, when I get off a sport court and am in no hurry I might tootle along at 15mph. I have no problem with folks driving whatever speed they feel comfortable driving. I just make sure I’m not in their way. Just because I’m in no hurry doesn’t mean that guy coming up behind me isn’t rushing to help a fallen friend or has an important appointment or class or tee time. I just pull over and let them by.

bagboy 05-22-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 1651599)
Another thing. It is unlawful to cross over the solid line on a diamond trail. Butttttt, how many people have crossed over the solid line to pass a bicycle going 5 MPH?
If you have, YOU just broke the law. If you don't pass them, there would be a mile long backup of golf carts.

Maybe the law has changed, or that wasn't the law in the first place. On 466A, driving west and turning right into Trailwinds, you have no choice but to cross a solid white line.

DonH57 05-22-2019 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 1651599)
Another thing. It is unlawful to cross over the solid line on a diamond trail. Butttttt, how many people have crossed over the solid line to pass a bicycle going 5 MPH?
If you have, YOU just broke the law. If you don't pass them, there would be a mile long backup of golf carts.

I'm curious. Please state the Florida statute regarding this? I can't find it and every local LEO I've asked told me other wise. I've been here years and passed many even in front of an LEO.You may leave the cart lane to position to make a left hand turn or in a safe manner, with assured distance, and not passing over the 20 MPH pass another golf cart or bicycle. That's the problem with these forums. Wrong information keeps popping up.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-22-2019 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1651603)
I don’t mind folks driving 15mph. Heck, when I get off a sport court and am in no hurry I might tootle along at 15mph. I have no problem with folks driving whatever speed they feel comfortable driving. I just make sure I’m not in their way. Just because I’m in no hurry doesn’t mean that guy coming up behind me isn’t rushing to help a fallen friend or has an important appointment or class or tee time. I just pull over and let them by.

Excellent post, summarizes courtesy and respect of both sides of the situation! :coolsmiley:

EdFNJ 05-22-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1651614)
Maybe the law has changed, or that wasn't the law in the first place. On 466A, driving west and turning right into Trailwinds, you have no choice but to cross a solid white line.

LOL, I think he is referring to a GOLF CART not a car. :D Aside from that I doubt that is a violation. I think all "laws" (if that is indeed a law somewhere) have legit circumstances for logically violating them that wouldn't get you ticketed..

DaleDivine 05-22-2019 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1651614)
Maybe the law has changed, or that wasn't the law in the first place. On 466A, driving west and turning right into Trailwinds, you have no choice but to cross a solid white line.

There are NO CARTS ALLOWED on 466 or 466A.

Laker14 05-23-2019 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Quixote (Post 1651538)
However, to register it is not so simple. If it is a 'low speed vehicle' rather than a 'golf cart,' then besides registration it requires seat belts, insurance, and I can't remember what else. A few years ago I remember speed traps for golf carts; speeding in a golf cart resulted in FIVE tickets, each of which was $250+. I laugh my head off when I see or hear these stories. The golf cart speed limit is 20 MPH. Period.

do you remember if they were writing 5 tickets for $250+ each if the cart was just going a smidge over 19.9mph? If so they must have had a very busy and productive day. So busy and so productive, in fact, that I'd find it very surprising they didn't do it every day. They could repave Buena Vista BLVD every year with the money they'd collect.

karostay 05-23-2019 07:20 AM

Just yesterday i emerged from the tunnel under 466A heading to Brownwood and an A.....Hole flew around me almost taking out 2 carts in the oncoming traffic
Yes I did use the A..Hole word

BobnBev 05-23-2019 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1651861)
Just yesterday i emerged from the tunnel under 466A heading to Brownwood and an A.....Hole flew around me almost taking out 2 carts in the oncoming traffic
Yes I did use the A..Hole word

Another reason for identifying markings or license plates on golf carts.....flame suit on. :popcorn::boxing2::popcorn::boom:

bagboy 05-23-2019 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 1651809)
There are NO CARTS ALLOWED on 466 or 466A.

OK OK OK, calm down. :Screen_of_Death:
I said no such thing.

Bay Kid 05-24-2019 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1651326)
Welcome to TOTV. :welcome:

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1651861)
Just yesterday i emerged from the tunnel under 466A heading to Brownwood and an A.....Hole flew around me almost taking out 2 carts in the oncoming traffic
Yes I did use the A..Hole word

Those darn snowbirds won't leave.

graciegirl 05-24-2019 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1651872)
Another reason for identifying markings or license plates on golf carts.....flame suit on. :popcorn::boxing2::popcorn::boom:

I understand your wish. It is very understandable....BUT

The problem is this; with anything that requires that much paperwork and manpower and oversight, there is bound to be a substantial increase in cost and substantial difficulty in keeping track as thousands of golf carts change hands and some even get stolen. Is it worth the effort in the end? I have a huge amount of skepticism about that.

wfp113 05-24-2019 08:08 AM

Golf cart speeding in the Villages is becoming increasingly worse every day. Just to give an example of the need for a crack down I recently saw a yesteryear cart for sale advertising speed of 45mph+. My cart is set at 22 and every day many carts pass me going a lot faster than 25mph.
Just an opinion.
Bill

biker1 05-24-2019 08:13 AM

This may require some legislative action. If so, I don’t see it happening.


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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 1651872)
Another reason for identifying markings or license plates on golf carts.....flame suit on. :popcorn::boxing2::popcorn::boom:


Fuzz323 05-25-2019 10:38 AM

Lets face it - there are some folks driving (golf carts and cars) that are half asleep at the wheel. The speed limit is 20 MPH so if you are watching the scenery at 15 mph what is the problem if you are passed by somebody doing the speed limit? Perhaps they are in route to an appointment either with a Doctor or a cold pitcher of tea or any number of reasons. Lighten up - we are all in this together.

I will note that there are some really self righteous comments here - I would bet some of these drivers have NEVER ever exceeded a speed limit - its truly a wonderful thing to be that good. He said with tongue firmly planted in cheek......

EdFNJ 05-25-2019 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz323 (Post 1652340)
Lets face it - there are some folks driving (golf carts and cars) that are half asleep at the wheel. The speed limit is 20 MPH so if you are watching the scenery at 15 mph what is the problem if you are passed by somebody doing the speed limit? Perhaps they are in route to an appointment either with a Doctor or a cold pitcher of tea or any number of reasons. Lighten up - we are all in this together.

I will note that there are some really self righteous comments here - I would bet some of these drivers have NEVER ever exceeded a speed limit - its truly a wonderful thing to be that good. He said with tongue firmly planted in cheek......

Yep and no one seems to complain about the drivers doing 55 mph on Morse or 466A or 50 on local 25/35mph roads. They are probably the same folks complaining about GC's going 22. :D I was behind a guy going 13mph (according to my speedometer) on the Morse Path today. I'm glad he was enjoying the scenery but I've seen it 30000 times and had to take a picked wiss (that's Boston talk).


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