Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2244059)

I can see the writing on the wall that the executive trail fee will go up to pay for this especially with minimum wage going up to $15.

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2243514)

Hmmmm.

The link doesn't seem to be working.

Originally Posted by drcar (Post 2243888)

"The Sky is Falling", "The Sky is Falling!"

So many opinions stated here without the facts:
Fact: The Villages will STILL own the courses.
Fact: The employees will still receive golf benefits, i.e. 1/2 price golf
Fact: The Villages will determine the fee for golf, and enhancements (priority)
Fact: The Villages will cover the salaries of the employees
Fact: The Villages is staying in the business of golf, in FACT major expansion of golf
Fact: Golf is GROWING in the Villages, unlike the film business, i.e. The Brownwood Movie Theater
Fact: The "Developer bailing" is NOT true!!
Fact: The employees are getting offered more benefits, and a bigger pay check, per hour increase!

There will be a long list of Villages haters who will state opinions, without the FACTS

Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2243907)

Golf ambassadors and gate watchers. Two jobs, if eliminated, would hardly be noticed. Spend the money to improve course conditions or plant more flowers.

Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2243900)

There is obviously a contract that determines exactly how all this will happen. Can someone point out the part of the contract that they find objectionable, please. I would like to understand the problem.

Originally Posted by Arlington2 (Post 2243556)

It will be a complicated and confusing process. Employees of VCCD are government employees. Benefits will change. For instance, employees will not pay SS, but will be able to put money into a tax deferred 401. The VCCD does not match employee contributions to the 401. It is not obvious how a government employee can legally service a private enterprise such as the championship golf courses. It is one thing for a government to contract out work to private companies, but something entirely different for a private company to hire government employees. It is also not obvious how a government employee can legally accept preferential discounts at the country club. I am sure the developer has thought through the process, but I hope the ACC is looking at it with eyes wide open.

Originally Posted by drcar (Post 2244084)

Sorry, the hand writing on the says "The Villages will pay the districts for the salaries of the staff on the Champ Courses." But you may be correct about the increase in Minimum wage causing an increase of cost, BUT that is not just golf, that will be everything you buy.

Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2244419)

Right, the developer will pay the Championship staff but not the executive staff so who is gonna pay that when minimum wage goes up?

I see the executive trail fee going up regardless. Which sucks if you walk most courses during the winter.

Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2244419)

Right, the developer will pay the Championship staff but not the executive staff so who is gonna pay that when minimum wage goes up?

I see the executive trail fee going up regardless. Which sucks if you walk most courses during the winter.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2243975)

Who would rake the traps and fill the divots on the tee boxes if not the Ambassadors?

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2243975)

Who would rake the traps and fill the divots on the tee boxes if not the Ambassadors?

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2244810)

In theory that should be the golfers that make the divots and ball marks and play out of the sand traps. In reality a significant percentage of golfers are either totally clueless or simply ignore proper golfing etiquette. The most important jobs of Ambassadors is to keep the pace of play moving (which is rarely done) and to keep people from sneaking onto the courses.

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2244782)

Don't forget about the ball marks on the greens. Need more than one sand bottle to treat all the divots at the tee boxes at the Execs.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2244828)

Really? I had no idea... :ohdear:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2244829)

I swear, some people must tee off with a backhoe...

I get that some people are too lazy to go back to their cart, get a sand bottle, walk back to the tee, fill their divot and walk back to their cart...

But how hard is it to grab your club AND the sand bottle when you first walk up to the tee? Set it next to the tee marker, chunk your shot, fill your divot (and your 2nd divot when you take a Mulligan) and walk back to your cart. All in ONE EASY TRIP!

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2245051)

They should bring the sand bottle with them before the shot. They know they are going to make a divot.

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2245063)

And if you don’t make a divot, use the sand bottle to fix one that another golfer left.

Same with a ball mark on the green. Always repair your ball mark and another one that someone else left.

https://youtu.be/zXbmaBSE9OQ

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2245051)

They should bring the sand bottle with them before the shot. They know they are going to make a divot.

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2245146)

The best part of doing that is that the golf gods will send good karma in your direction, so I got that going for me : )

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2244829)

I swear, some people must tee off with a backhoe...

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2244810)

In theory that should be the golfers that make the divots and ball marks and play out of the sand traps. In reality a significant percentage of golfers are either totally clueless or simply ignore proper golfing etiquette. The most important jobs of Ambassadors is to keep the pace of play moving (which is rarely done) and to keep people from sneaking onto the courses.