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TheVillageChicken 06-21-2014 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rc Moser (Post 896194)
Chicken, BarryRX, and Russ thanks for the correction. I don't think that is the shot I was referring to I clearly remember it going far left and splashing down in the water, but been 3 or 4 years ago and I can't remember. I do remember the water hazard was covered with Green moss and when the ball hit it made big clearing in the murky green covering. IMO in regular daily play makes no sense to back peddle and slow play down unless your in tournament or playing for Sawbuck But that me, I try to keep up with the group and not cause backup.
That is why we have the provisional ball rule.

The Mountaineer 06-21-2014 03:36 PM
We'll be coming down to a rental in January through March 2015. It's embarrassing enough to hit a ball out of bounds. I would be thrilled if the land's owner gave me permission to retrieve my ball and the play the next shot from a legal spot. So the idiot was stupid twice, for hitting the ball off your land, and damaging it, and them giving you a smart alec answer. I'll try to keep it in the fairway, but my West Virginia mamma taught me better manners than this oaf.

Sanibel7 06-21-2014 04:25 PM
golf balls
 
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Originally Posted by rjn5656 (Post 896013)
I have hit into yards, usually go over and retrieve my ball, and apologize to the homeowner if they are around. They are always pretty good about it.
Its in the rule book not to retrieve golf balls on private property that is considered tresspassing. How would you like someone walking around in your backyard?

TheVillageChicken 06-21-2014 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanibel7 (Post 896478)
Its in the rule book not to retrieve golf balls on private property that is considered tresspassing. How would you like someone walking around in your backyard?
That is not in the rule book, but it is common courtesy.

Bogie Shooter 06-21-2014 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 895996)
People should read the rules of golf. First you can not go on private property to get a ball. Second the golfer who does that is simply saying he or she does not care about anyone else's rights. Most are looking for a fight when they enter private property. Finally the golf course does not care about any thing done to private property. Many have complained all have been laughed at for complaining.there have been fights about exactly what happened to you. Several ended with a person going to the hospital. I will not be surprised when something worse happens. There are rules but never inforced
Golf course doesn't care.........this is hard to believe.
all have been laughed at.................this is hard to believe.
fights..............this is hard to believe.
going to the hospital...............assault this is hard to believe.
never enforced............this is hard to believe.
Where are you getting all this information?

Bogie Shooter 06-21-2014 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 896061)
It was a bad golf hat trick:

Hit from out of bounds
damaged your property
rude and flippant remark

A couple of months ago I was walking back from the postal center along a street that borders a green. A golfer hooked his approach shot and it went out of bounds, across the cart path and into the road, bouncing right at me (I was on the far side of the road from the green). I caught the ball and just as I started to toss it back across the street onto the grass between the street and the cart path ... Captain Hook yells at me that I "should have let it go so he could play it from there"

I looked at him in amazement and then as I fired his ball down the street I said ... "play it from there, that is where it was headed!" and gave him the single digit salute. His ball was last seen bouncing toward BVB.

I am pretty sure that Captain Hooks real name was ...... Richard.
single digit salute................that is so adult.

robertj1954 06-22-2014 08:27 AM
Golfer certainly lacked proper golf etiquette and manners (which in my view) is rare amongst our golfing community. Out of bound white stakes are posted to show the boundary of the golf course. You are trespassing when outside the golf course.

If this occurs again, have the starter shack phone number on your phone list. Call them report the cart color and location. The Ambassador will address it by educating the golfer on the rules of play.

ajbrown 06-22-2014 09:35 AM
Maybe this is the one you are thinking of....
 
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Originally Posted by Rc Moser (Post 896194)
Chicken, BarryRX, and Russ thanks for the correction. I don't think that is the shot I was referring to I clearly remember it going far left and splashing down in the water, but been 3 or 4 years ago and I can't remember. I do remember the water hazard was covered with Green moss and when the ball hit it made big clearing in the murky green covering. IMO in regular daily play makes no sense to back peddle and slow play down unless your in tournament or playing for Sawbuck But that me, I try to keep up with the group and not cause backup.
2013 Players Championship -- Tiger Woods' drop at 14th deemed legit by PGA Tour - ESPN

Unless I am in some kind of tournament or match, I have no issue just dropping where it went out of bounds. The only thing I would possibly affect is my own handicap. Since I can only take double bogeys anyway (for handicap) that is likely what I will get after being OB, so no harm, no foul :ohdear:

My worst OB was in some tournament in MA at Foxborough CC. I do not know remember what the tournament was ... possibly trying to qualify for MA AM or something...

Third hole was a par 3 about 190 yards. There was a backup on the tee. When I finally hit, I hit a lousy block fade to the right of the bunker. My caddy said we can get up and down from there (he was a good friend and I accepted his lie, but would have been very pleased with 4. In short we got there, no ball to be found, we used the whole 5 minutes looking as it was a pretty open area....

I then took the longest walk in golf; back to the tee where two other groups already waiting. That walk took forever... I did make a good 5 :clap2:

PS. Being honest at the risk of starting a thread riot, I will retrieve my ball from someone's yard in TV. The way I handle it is I look for my ball from the course. I do not enter the yard unless I see my ball out in the open and would not do any damage retrieving it. If the person is out, I say hello, make a self deprecating joke about my game and ask if they mind me grabbing the ball. I have never run into a homeowner that is mad at me or denies me access.

CFrance 06-22-2014 09:44 AM
Let me ask a non-golfer's question. Why is it important to get that particular ball back? Why not leave it and use another ball? That way you're not trespassing nor putting the homeowner in the dodgy situation of having to decide if you can trespass.

The Mountaineer 06-22-2014 09:50 AM
The moral of this thread: There are always people whose behavior is out of bounds, even in such a marvelous place as The Villages, perhaps the most unique place I have visited and I've been to 50 countries, 2 U.S. territories and 43 states. We loved it so much during our two weeks in December 2013 that we'll coming back for three months (January-March) in 2015. We're renting on Rainbow Boulevard. If you're a Mountaineer, stop by an say "Howdy!"

ajbrown 06-22-2014 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 896743)
Let me ask a non-golfer's question. Why is it important to get that particular ball back? Why not leave it and use another ball? That way you're not trespassing nor putting the homeowner in the dodgy situation of having to decide if you can trespass.
Me personally, because they cost $4 :shocked:. An analogy...I think of it a $5 bill. If it blew out of my cart and I could see it in someone's yard (front or back), I would step in their yard and retrieve it, if I could do so with doing ANY damage.

DonH57 06-22-2014 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ajbrown (Post 896737)
2013 Players Championship -- Tiger Woods' drop at 14th deemed legit by PGA Tour - ESPN

Unless I am in some kind of tournament or match, I have no issue just dropping where it went out of bounds. The only thing I would possibly affect is my own handicap. Since I can only take double bogeys anyway (for handicap) that is likely what I will get after being OB, so no harm, no foul :ohdear:

My worst OB was in some tournament in MA at Foxborough CC. I do not know remember what the tournament was ... possibly trying to qualify for MA AM or something...

Third hole was a par 3 about 190 yards. There was a backup on the tee. When I finally hit, I hit a lousy block fade to the right of the bunker. My caddy said we can get up and down from there (he was a good friend and I accepted his lie, but would have been very pleased with 4. In short we got there, no ball to be found, we used the whole 5 minutes looking as it was a pretty open area....

I then took the longest walk in golf; back to the tee where two other groups already waiting. That walk took forever... I did make a good 5 :clap2:

PS. Being honest at the risk of starting a thread riot, I will retrieve my ball from someone's yard in TV. The way I handle it is I look for my ball from the course. I do not enter the yard unless I see my ball out in the open and would not do any damage retrieving it. If the person is out, I say hello, make a self deprecating joke about my game and ask if they mind me grabbing the ball. I have never run into a homeowner that is mad at me or denies me access.
I have been fortunate as a new golfer not to have one of my balls go in someone's yard. I've had them go everywhere else!. I too see nothing wrong with asking the homeowner if I may retrieve the ball.

CFrance 06-22-2014 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ajbrown (Post 896750)
Me personally, because they cost $4 :shocked:. An analogy...I think of it a $5 bill. If it blew out of my cart and I could see it in someone's yard (front or back), I would step in their yard and retrieve it, if I could do so with doing ANY damage.
Fair enough.

CFrance 06-22-2014 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 896811)
On the same topic as accidently hitting your ball into a yard - what would YOU do if your ball accidently broke a large glass window on a person's golfside lanai - both when they were home and also if no one was home?

Remember that their homeowner insurance will have the standard $500 deductible.
Hoo-boy.:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

DeanFL 06-22-2014 01:02 PM
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