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huge-pigeons 11-29-2023 06:38 AM

They should check for passes frequently on the courts and in the pools, in the rec centers. We are the 1’s paying to live here, not the outsiders. Go to big cypress or Rohan in the mornings for pickleball and see the long lines and you find out there are a few people are playing that don’t live here.
Maybe TV should post a sign that says if you don’t have a pass you are trespassing and could be fined or prosecuted by the local police for a deterrent

La lamy 11-29-2023 06:53 AM

We get our IDs checked pretty much every day where I play pickleball. Even if the staff knows us very well, they still want to see it. I guess different rec centres have various policies.

GizmoWhiskers 11-29-2023 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2277959)
The Villages has gotten far too big to check IDs and enforce deed restrictions. They would need to hire many more people and they are not going to do it.

With the exception of annonymous complaints waking T V up to compliance fines that cost only SOME homeowners, the ones who erroneously purchased homes with violations they missed prior to purchase out of ignorance (or not), thousands. You know the selective enforcement thing T V is really good at.

kendi 11-29-2023 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 2277821)
I cannot believe that there are people who are so self-important, pretentious & petty that they are upset about how many people are having their passes checked. There are no hordes of outsiders invading the facilities. Even if there is a non-resident using a facility here and there, is this such a huge concern. Do you want to have to get out of the pool or stop your pickle-ball game just to have your ID checked for the 4th time or more in one visit to a facility? Or having to get out of the pool and run home to get your ID because you forgot it? I certainly don't want to be bothered. Having to have your ID checked constantly reminds me of those Iron Curtain countries; "Show me zee papers or vee send you to Siberia." The attendants don't get paid a lot and they do a good job. If you see someone who shouldn't be there, then report them if you must. I say, Live and let live. Life is too short to make such a big deal out a non-issue.

No need for the insults when stating your opinion.

biker1 11-29-2023 07:19 AM

IMO, the current system, based on anonymous complaints, prevents the CDDs, for exterior deed restriction violations, and the Developer, for inside-the-house deed restriction violations, from being accused of selective enforcement. Their responsibility is to investigate deed restrictions violations, when anonymously reported, and if a violation actually occurs to act on it. This removes them of the responsibility of looking for, and possibly missing, deed restriction violations, which is how claims of selective enforcement could arise. While I have no personal experience, there seems to be some suggestion that the Developer is not all that interested in enforcing inside-the-house deed restriction violations. As far as I can tell, the CDDs are diligent in their investigation and enforcement of exterior deed restriction violations.

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Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2278135)
With the exception of annonymous complaints waking T V up to compliance fines that cost only SOME homeowners, the ones who erroneously purchased homes with violations they missed prior to purchase out of ignorance (or not), thousands. You know the selective enforcement thing T V is really good at.


margaretmattson 11-29-2023 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by elshackovillages (Post 2277863)
Passes being checked should be the least of your concerns. Try living in an area where The Villages does not enforce any rules, in hopes you will get so angry, you put your home up for sale. Then, The Villages makes another profit from the sale of your home. I have homes near me with RV's in their driveway, trailers and boats in their carports, actual work areas in their carports, commercial vehicles in their driveways. Some homes have 3 generations of families living there, sometimes with children under 19. The Villages gets reports about these violations, yet does nothing. The Villages has no idea how many under 55 live here, because they don't care. Selling homes is their only concern, not your safety or peace of mind.

I recently moved from an area with many renters. No one would stop the infractions because renters did not agree to the deed restrictions. Ugh! Sorry, you are having similar problems. This is not what any of us had in mind when we retired here.

Topspinmo 11-29-2023 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckeyephan (Post 2277815)
Had family visiting last week and got passes for all four of them. Husband, son and grandson played ping pong at Seabreeze. No passes were checked. Son took both grandkids to Bradenton pool for nearly two hours and never got checked. Not sure who is trying to convince us that we don’t need to be concerned that nonresidents are using our facilities.


So! Unless they have checker at door every second (some do and some don’t every minute) few will just walk right in. People who follow rules would wait to be scanned……see two sides to most every coin:icon_wink:

Desiderata 11-29-2023 08:49 AM

I’d like to see scanner locks at the pool gates and dog parks where your ID unlocks the gates. Pools and especially dog parks are often used by non-residents. Residents pay for these facilities that are often already over crowded during peak season.

JSR22 11-29-2023 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Desiderata (Post 2278209)
I’d like to see scanner locks at the pool gates and dog parks where your ID unlocks the gates. Pools and especially dog parks are often used by non-residents. Residents pay for these facilities that are often already over crowded during peak season.

They cannot put scanners on the pool gates. Landscapers construction and home improvement people need to use the rest rooms.

nn0wheremann 11-29-2023 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2277839)
It will get much easier and much less intrusive, once the implanted microchip program is implemented.

Microchips are out, now that people live so much longer. Bar code tattoos will be much more efficient, don’t you think :) :)

vinnytalk 11-29-2023 10:20 AM

I believe tge main reason of checking passes is for insurance reasons. Especially in recent centers when you rent or use a room it's free only for residents if you invite outsiders to your oarty you need a one time insurance policy to protect.

In any xase rules are rules and everyone should only

Bogie Shooter 11-29-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2278148)
IMO, the current system, based on anonymous complaints, prevents the CDDs, for exterior deed restriction violations, and the Developer, for inside-the-house deed restriction violations, from being accused of selective enforcement. Their responsibility is to investigate deed restrictions violations, when anonymously reported, and if a violation actually occurs to act on it. This removes them of the responsibility of looking for, and possibly missing, deed restriction violations, which is how claims of selective enforcement could arise. While I have no personal experience, there seems to be some suggestion that the Developer is not all that interested in enforcing inside-the-house deed restriction violations. As far as I can tell, the CDDs are diligent in their investigation and enforcement of exterior deed restriction violations.

Example of selective enforcement of deed restrictions.
A violation is reported and home owner makes correction, lo and behold the same violation is visible just three doors down and is not reported. Selective enforcement based on anonymous reporting.

Indydealmaker 11-29-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by elshackovillages (Post 2277863)
Passes being checked should be the least of your concerns. Try living in an area where The Villages does not enforce any rules, in hopes you will get so angry, you put your home up for sale. Then, The Villages makes another profit from the sale of your home. I have homes near me with RV's in their driveway, trailers and boats in their carports, actual work areas in their carports, commercial vehicles in their driveways. Some homes have 3 generations of families living there, sometimes with children under 19. The Villages gets reports about these violations, yet does nothing. The Villages has no idea how many under 55 live here, because they don't care. Selling homes is their only concern, not your safety or peace of mind.

Check your deed restrictions. For your area, most of what you report is not restricted.

Pwanderson 11-29-2023 12:05 PM

We often have to show our id cards at the pool. If you are in the water they won’t make you get out to show your card. We have never been asked to show id at anything outside.

nmgirardot 11-29-2023 12:13 PM

Not all renters are evil. We have been coming to TV for the past 5 years and make it a point to leave the property better than we found it including pulling the occasional weeds, making minor repairs, with the owners permission, and cleaning it so that the cleaning service wonders why they even came. On the subject of IDs, we carry them with us at all times fully anticipating being checked. Last year during our 4 week stay I was asked once for ID at the pool and I was at the pool most days.


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