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kittygilchrist 05-17-2014 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 879036)
I saw in the Daily Sun a few days ago that a Villager was cleaning his pistol and shot himself in the stomach. How can a person who has handled guns enough to own one be so careless not to check and double check that the pistol was unloaded?

Was it a case of being careless or possibly just too old to have a gun?

I know there are no maximum ages for driving or for gun ownership but at some time, most people do voluntarily (or at the insistence of family) give up keys to the car. What about for guns?

I have always advocated a yearly vision and driving skill test for drivers over 80. What about a vision and shooting skill test for gun owners over 80?

When people put forth issues that indicate an extreme desire to control how others behave, it's sometimes the case that a belligerent nature is being revealed.

Personally, I wish persons with such a combative character were aware that they cannot trust themselves with a firearm, but it's quite unlikely that such an individual would have the insight to perceive any flaw in their own fabric.

homeball 05-17-2014 11:23 PM

Another Nominee for the Darwin Awards
 
AOL.com Article - Man shoots himself in head, rubs Neosporin on wound

marlinguy 05-18-2014 05:12 AM

How about "The 1st Annual Turkey Shoot and Gun Show"
 
Welcome Octogenanrians!

Pointer 05-18-2014 06:34 AM

I hadn't seen this before. thanks Carl from Tampa for the info.

buggyone 05-18-2014 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 879254)
When people put forth issues that indicate an extreme desire to control how others behave, it's sometimes the case that a belligerent nature is being revealed.

Personally, I wish persons with such a combative character were aware that they cannot trust themselves with a firearm, but it's quite unlikely that such an individual would have the insight to perceive any flaw in their own fabric.

I am not really sure of what is meant here by being suggesting a belligerent nature and combative character and flaws in fabric. Most of my fabric is denim.

I hope you made something good with the key lime juice.

Chazz 05-18-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by homeball (Post 879291)

For some, apparently, the head and its contents are not vital organs!:22yikes:

MikeV 05-18-2014 02:51 PM

There is no gun registration in Florida and there shouldn't be. Registration leads to confiscation. Licenses are renewed every 7 years I believe. There is no license required to own a gun in ones home only to carry a concealed weapon. One person shoots himself out of stupidity and now we are discussing testing people who own a gun. I always reverse it when something like this happens. One person shot himself but 102,999 did not. Sort of like when one person doesn't like the Village People song YMCA so the school cancels the show because of the ONE person. Total Stupidity….

MikeV 05-18-2014 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 879254)
When people put forth issues that indicate an extreme desire to control how others behave, it's sometimes the case that a belligerent nature is being revealed.

Personally, I wish persons with such a combative character were aware that they cannot trust themselves with a firearm, but it's quite unlikely that such an individual would have the insight to perceive any flaw in their own fabric.

:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplaus e:

Steve9930 05-18-2014 04:04 PM

People some times do the dumbest things. It just happens and will continue to happen. I've watched people pump gasoline with a lit cigarette in their mouth. Goes back to the saying: "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make them drink". No matter how many times you try and tell someone to be careful, someone always screws up at some point. Age does matter some but it happens to all ages.

buggyone 05-18-2014 04:06 PM

It seems as some who have such strong Second Amendment viewpoints forget about First Amendment guarantees that includes Freedom of Speech.

chilout

Carl in Tampa 05-18-2014 04:10 PM

Less anxiety.
 
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Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 879513)
There is no gun registration in Florida and there shouldn't be. Registration leads to confiscation. Licenses are renewed every 7 years I believe. There is no license required to own a gun in ones home only to carry a concealed weapon. One person shoots himself out of stupidity and now we are discussing testing people who own a gun. I always reverse it when something like this happens. One person shot himself but 102,999 did not. Sort of like when one person doesn't like the Village People song YMCA so the school cancels the show because of the ONE person. Total Stupidity….

:agree:

There is also no prohibition in Florida on carrying a handgun in your vehicle if it is properly "encased." That means it should be in a holster with a snap or other securing device, or even in a closed glove compartment; in either case, out of reach and not immediately available. It must not be concealed in reach or on your person unless you have a CCW license.

The joke among law enforcement folks in Florida is that in some other states when an officer stops a car he might wonder if there is a gun in the car; in Florida he can be almost sure that there is. Knowing takes away some of the anxiety. :icon_wink:

Florida was a leader in the move to the practice of "shall issue" CCW licenses, which provides that a jurisdiction shall issue a CCW license to anyone who meets the legal requirements. The majority of states now have similar laws.

Steve9930 05-18-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 879540)
It seems as some who have such strong Second Amendment viewpoints forget about First Amendment guarantees that includes Freedom of Speech.

chilout

Yep, I might not like what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Thus the need for the second along with the first. Those people that wrote this constitution stuff were some pretty bright cookies!:BigApplause:

Shimpy 05-18-2014 04:19 PM

Carl in Tampa.....I always read your posts and appreciate your input and knowledge as a past secret service agent. It's good to have you on the board giving your opinion and attempting to straighten out those that are uninformed and tend to believe what they hear in the main stream media.

ugotme 05-18-2014 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 879546)
Yep, I might not like what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Thus the need for the second along with the first. Those people that wrote this constitution stuff were some pretty bright cookies!:BigApplause:


Excellent point. Very appropriate and very true.

:bigbow:

Tennisnut 05-18-2014 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 879542)
:agree:

There is also no prohibition in Florida on carrying a handgun in your vehicle if it is properly "encased." That means it should be in a holster with a snap or other securing device, or even in a closed glove compartment; in either case, out of reach and not immediately available. It must not be concealed in reach or on your person unless you have a CCW license.

The joke among law enforcement folks in Florida is that in some other states when an officer stops a car he might wonder if there is a gun in the car; in Florida he can be almost sure that there is. Knowing takes away some of the anxiety. :icon_wink:

Florida was a leader in the move to the practice of "shall issue" CCW licenses, which provides that a jurisdiction shall issue a CCW license to anyone who meets the legal requirements. The majority of states now have similar laws.

For some, that may make them feel a lot better and reduce their anxiety. However, the thought that every car is carrying a concealed weapon gives me a lot of pause. I hope the road rage does not escalate to a shoot out at the OK corral!


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