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kendi 08-26-2020 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1822869)
So you are OK with SOME violations unless you consider them to be serious?

What's minor to some may be major to others. How about we all just comply with the covenants we agreed to?

Then I’m sure those who consider it to be major will report it. OMG. Take a chill pill.

kendi 08-26-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CCristella (Post 1823017)
It's very sad that a 18" white cross would **** someone off.

May not be the cross that irritates them, but only the fact that rules were broken.

eyc234 08-26-2020 08:24 AM

Always easy to say there is no problem until it is the house next to you that has the toilet and old car in the front yard. Then the complaints start about the loss of home values and "someone" needs to do something. One thing that could be done is to hold contractors responsible for the infractions they are responsible for putting in place. Contractors can also have customers sign off on changes that break the deed restrictions and hold the resident responsible at that point.

The biggest thing is there are rules and ignorance of the rules is not an excuse especially when there are resources readily available to provide all the information you need.

Rosie1950 08-26-2020 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1823002)
I’m picturing both sides of this issue. The problem as I see it is that we shouldn’t have to be in this situation. You would think The Villages would hire 20-25 people who’s job it is to drive each Village, take pictures, and report at the end of their shift any violations. Otherwise why have anyone sign the deed restriction paper when they buy if your not going to patrol your property with your own inspectors for violations. What’s happening here is they are doing it the cheep way. Rely on us to spy and tell on each other. This should not have to be.

Totally agree.
We have lived here since 2007. The only complaint I ever made was the dumping of yard waste at the Sable Chase postal station after Irma. I called twice and spoke with Janet Tut. First time I called it was a large pile, second time I called the pile wrapped around the parking area and was as tall as the station.
Ms Tut told me they had posted a request that people NOT do that.
I inquired why since we were paying for yard waste removal and not getting the service, WHY couldn’t the Villages use that money to post employees at the various dumping grounds.
I don’t live in Sable Chase but I was quite offended but that particular sight.
So the poster is correct the Villages really does nothing that might cost them something.
The debris was not taken away till the pick up resumed.
I know, I know there was a problem all over the state with pick up, however that does not negate the continued allowance of dumping at postal stations. ESPECIALLY after complaints.
So to take the stance we need to keep the community standard so it will keep values up, how did THAT LOOK?

justjim 08-26-2020 08:30 AM

Deed restrictions
 
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Originally Posted by GOLFER54 (Post 1822918)
JUST SO YOU KNOW.....
CDD 5 supervisors vote to end anonymous complaint system.
I guess you’ll have to find something else to occupy your time. I suggest daily weeding of your property and cutting your lawn with scissors.

The ol’adage “careful what you wish for” sure applies here.

donassaid 08-26-2020 08:36 AM

I think the problem has been "selective" complaints. Some are targeted while others on the same street are left alone. Any anonymous complaints should be completely ignored. You should have to give your name and stand behind our complaint.

robin.nurse 08-26-2020 08:37 AM

I must have missed something. What started this conversation about rules? Seems to me someone just creating controversy. Do tell .

Two Bills 08-26-2020 08:38 AM

Police enforce local law.
Military enforce military law.
My wife eforces our house law.
Why can't TV and CDD enforce their laws?
They have the mobile system and patrols already in place.
All they need is the will to do something, or just drop the deed restrictions in the bin!

ctmurray 08-26-2020 08:42 AM

Here is link to find your deed restrictions
 
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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1822923)
I’ve lived here over a year and a half and to be honest I don’t even know what the violations would be? I don’t recall being handed a piece of paper saying you can do this and you can’t do this? If I was going to report something it would have to be kind of a commonsense thing. Something that was obviously not right. I would like to know where I can get a copy of what my deed restrictions are? And I also understand that they’re different in different areas? Could it get any more confusing?

You received your deed restrictions when you purchased your home, given at closing. Like most of us the paperwork from closing was not read and is stored into a folder. Here is a link, you need your property ID which is on your Village ID card:

Village Community Development Districts

The reason they are different depending on your location is that they have changed over time, items added and likely some removed. They could not "backdate" your covenants but new CDD's have them incorporated. The historic side did not have as many restrictions.

Jayhawk 08-26-2020 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by zendog3 (Post 1823003)
I would not rat out my neighbors even if they painted their house purple.

However, maybe someone who feels strongly should post their phone number and agree to be the designated complainer. Then every person who objects to the occasional purple house could call their complaint into the designated complainer who would turn the offending homeowner.

Isn't that exactly the way it works now?

DecaturFargo 08-26-2020 08:53 AM

Such a juvenile response

Leadbone1 08-26-2020 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ctmurray (Post 1823054)
You received your deed restrictions when you purchased your home, given at closing. Like most of us the paperwork from closing was not read and is stored into a folder. Here is a link, you need your property ID which is on your Village ID card:

Village Community Development Districts

The reason they are different depending on your location is that they have changed over time, items added and likely some removed. They could not "backdate" your covenants but new CDD's have them incorporated. The historic side did not have as many restrictions.

Thank you for that information. I will check it out

New Englander 08-26-2020 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1822853)
I will happily report and violations that occur when I see them. I have no problem using my full name and address.

If you don't agree then just don't violate the deed restrictions you agreed to when buying your house.

This isn't rocket science. There are people who don't like those who report them or others. They seem to feel it's their right even though they signed on the dotted line without coercion. They call people "troll's"...accuse them of being power hungry. The fact is they're in the wrong and don't like being called to account.

Perhaps moving to Seattle, LA, Detroit, DC or any other metropolitan area would be preferable.

I love it here and hope the "trolls" continue to act even if it means giving their name/address. If you have trouble with those that whine just give a call out. The common sense people will help you.

Fred Clark

Have you ever bent or broken a rule? He who is without sin, cast the first stone.

Bertram00 08-26-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by goodhnds (Post 1823036)
Thankful you do not live in my neighborhood. Why not treat neighbors with respect and consideration? You apparently need a hobby other than trolling.

Are the people violating the deed restrictions treating their neighbors with respect and consideration?

Jayhawk 08-26-2020 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1823050)
Why can't TV and CDD enforce their laws?

They're not laws. They are deed restrictions and we all agreed to follow them voluntarily. For all those who talk of being a good neighbor but choose not to comply with deed restrictions, you are the problem.

Fredster 08-26-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PJackpot (Post 1822921)
I don't really care either way. However, you may find appointing yourself deed restriction police, which I don't recommend anyone do, has consequences. It's one thing to complain about something in your own neighborhood. It's quite another to go traversing around The Villages looking for them. Seriously, is your life that dull?

I too would wonder about the type of person that would go around looking for deed restriction violations beyond their own street or village!
I’m aware of a number of restriction violations on my own street, but in my opinion they are not ugly, in fact if they were dealt with it would not be as nice aesthetically.
The other thing to consider if I reported them all, it would create a lot of bad feelings.
And most likely they do not even know they
are in violation.
Personally I’m in favor of deed restrictions, but I believe the purely complaint driven system results in random/uneven enforcement.

Fredster 08-26-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1823072)
They're not laws. They are deed restrictions and we all agreed to follow them voluntarily. For all those who talk of being a good neighbor but choose not to comply with deed restrictions, you are the problem.

I believe there are some home owners in TV
that aren’t even aware that they have a deed restriction violation on their property!
So they might not even know they are so terrible!

Troopie 08-26-2020 09:23 AM

Happy to report CDD violations...
 
I'll never understand some peoples' need to report these things. It's one thing if someone has placed something that's blatantly offensive or unsafe in their yard. But, that's not what's happening here. These people are actively looking for things to report. The whole thing is very childish, and it causes a lot of animosity. Why not just live, and let live?

Jayhawk 08-26-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1823069)
Have you ever bent or broken a rule? He who is without sin, cast the first stone.

They do. You (and others) call them trolls.

Jayhawk 08-26-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1823085)
I believe there are some home owners in TV
that aren’t even aware that they have a deed restriction violation on their property!
So they might not even know they are so terrible!

That's why someone knocks on their door to let them know.

They don't call out people who are in compliance. Only vilations.

rmd2 08-26-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1823002)
I’m picturing both sides of this issue. The problem as I see it is that we shouldn’t have to be in this situation. You would think The Villages would hire 20-25 people who’s job it is to drive each Village, take pictures, and report at the end of their shift any violations. Otherwise why have anyone sign the deed restriction paper when they buy if your not going to patrol your property with your own inspectors for violations. What’s happening here is they are doing it the cheep way. Rely on us to spy and tell on each other. This should not have to be.

I think neighborhood watch should be doing this.

Jayhawk 08-26-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Troopie (Post 1823088)
Why not just live, and let live?

Because we ALL agreed to comply. If I and most others didn't want deed restrictions, we would have moved somewhere without them.

Fredster 08-26-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Troopie (Post 1823088)
I'll never understand some peoples' need to report these things. It's one thing if someone has placed something that's blatantly offensive or unsafe in their yard. But, that's not what's happening here. These people are actively looking for things to report. The whole thing is very childish, and it causes a lot of animosity. Why not just live, and let live?

If this change cuts down on people
looking all over TV for violations as a hobby
I’m all for it!

Jayhawk 08-26-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1823098)
If this change cuts down on people
looking all over TV for violations as a hobby
I’m all for it!

Serious question - Why do you care, if you are not a violater? How are you affected as someone in compliance?

Challenger 08-26-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1822855)
Actually in a way I agree with you that someone has to enforce deed restrictions. But it wouldn’t be me unless it was a serious violation.

Totally untrolls
By whose opinion will we determine which violation is serious enough to be acted on. Such a determination would render all unenforceable . I am opposed to all violations, and support "trolls" if that is what is needed to assure compliance.

Challenger 08-26-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by superzcomputerz (Post 1822940)
The word is “RAT” not inform!

This post is the kind of reaction that illustrates why anonymity is needed.

Fredster 08-26-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1823105)
Serious question - Why do you care, if you are not a violater? How are you affected as someone in compliance?

Read what I posted, and I’ve had experience to back up my opinion, which is as valid as yours!
Maybe as I’ve aged I’m not as rigid as some!

chrisinva 08-26-2020 10:08 AM

Who should report violations?
 
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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1823002)
I’m picturing both sides of this issue. The problem as I see it is that we shouldn’t have to be in this situation. You would think The Villages would hire 20-25 people who’s job it is to drive each Village, take pictures, and report at the end of their shift any violations. Otherwise why have anyone sign the deed restriction paper when they buy if your not going to patrol your property with your own inspectors for violations. What’s happening here is they are doing it the cheep way. Rely on us to spy and tell on each other. This should not have to be.

The Village Watch people are already paid to drive around neighborhoods 24/7. Couldn't they report violations? And if a homeowner saw a violation, how about if they call Village Watch to file complaint, anonymously or otherwise?

Curtisbwp 08-26-2020 10:13 AM

I am a person who does not run to protection behind the police. I do not go to mommy and daddy, simply put i approach the issue head on, face to face, man to man.

doodles 08-26-2020 10:28 AM

I don’t think anyone should have the right to report. Community Watch rides around all day and night, they should be the only ones reporting violations

mtlee024 08-26-2020 10:31 AM

So communicate
 
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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1822876)
You mean neighbors who break the covenants and restrictions we all agreed to?

What should someone do if say, a neighbor puts in an above ground metal pool? Or puts a car up on blocks. Is that OK or should you be able to report it to a deed violation department?

Why not talk to the neighbor first, they may not know they are in violation.

Jayhawk 08-26-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by doodles (Post 1823152)
I don’t think anyone should have the right to report. Community Watch rides around all day and night, they should be the only ones reporting violations

All residents should have the right as they ALL agreed to the covenants. Community Watch is riding "around all day" for resident safety, not for deed issues.

Jayhawk 08-26-2020 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mtlee024 (Post 1823153)
Why not talk to the neighbor first, they may not know they are in violation.

Then the guy knocking on the door from compliance is doing them a favor, while there isn't going to be bad blood with the neighbor using the current system. If I accidentally violate, I would hate to inconvenience a neighbor by requiring them to be the ones to tell me.

pattytracey 08-26-2020 10:46 AM

Well I like it here but the complaints are annoying I prefer my freedom to choose some like control

Thetwisted2 08-26-2020 10:47 AM

Tried to get a permit to widen my driveway 4 feet at my patio villa, I was told 2 ft was the maximum allowed. There are around 7 driveways in my neighborhood that have exceeded the 2 ft maximum and look nice. I am going to have mine widen 2 ft and live by their rules.

Jayhawk 08-26-2020 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pattytracey (Post 1823165)
Well I like it here but the complaints are annoying I prefer my freedom to choose some like control

Then you should not have moved to a deed-restricted community where likely 98% of the residents understand compliance is not only a requirement, it is also an ethical obligation to others.

Jayhawk 08-26-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Thetwisted2 (Post 1823167)
Tried to get a permit to widen my driveway 4 feet at my patio villa, I was told 2 ft was the maximum allowed. There are around 7 driveways in my neighborhood that have exceeded the 2 ft maximum and look nice. I am going to have mine widen 2 ft and live by their rules.

Good for you . You are the kind of neighbor I'd want to live near.

:clap2:

JoeinFL 08-26-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 1823021)
yup, certainly sounds like we moved to the friendliest home town anywhere around

Definitely makes me wonder sometimes.

Two Bills 08-26-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1823072)
They're not laws. They are deed restrictions and we all agreed to follow them voluntarily. For all those who talk of being a good neighbor but choose not to comply with deed restrictions, you are the problem.

Deed restrictions, rules, laws, covenants, whatever, if the people who make them can't/wont enforce them, they are not worth the paper they wrote them on.
The present 'voluntary' enforcement system is a joke.
Enforce all of the restrictions, change them, or dump them!

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-26-2020 11:47 AM

If my property has something offensive to a neighbor, I hope the neighbor will find a way to politely bring it to my attention, so that I can alter or eliminate the offense, rather than stew on it and create hostility between us. Or, if they aren't comfortable bringing it up to me, then sure a compliance report would be in order.

What I don't want, is someone from two towns away, driving to my neighborhood LOOKING for problems to report, and reporting them. That is what I object to.

The fact remains, these are public roads, and there are many non-Villages citizens of three counties who would love nothing more than to create a hostile environment for residents of the Villages. People whose families came from these counties, who are not transplants from somewhere else, who have had to watch the Villages do well while the county does nothing about the potholes on their own street.

So I totally GET that there are "outsiders" with an axe to grind. But that's the thing. We have to recognize that there are people who want to make trouble, in neighborhoods where people are peacefully co-existing. That is the #1 reason WHY I feel that complaints about deed compliance needs to a) be anonymous TO THE RESIDENT but NOT to the Compliance people and b) needs to come from an actual Villager, in the same county, if not in the same village.


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