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I've never been fond of men or women wearing hats at meals. Raising sons, I learned to pick my battles, so I gave up for meals at home (especially grabbing lunch). But insisted, hats off at restaurants (McDonalds didn't count). The younger generation doesn't seem to adhere to the same norms we did, but thats probably our own fault because we didn't force the issues like our parents did. Its a new generation out there - many of us were professional women working outside the home. I'm not making excuses, but the time I was at home with my sons for meals, I rather wanted to cheerfully hear about their day than to scold them for wearing a baseball cap. I'm culpable for this hat-wearing generation.
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I take off my hat at the table when dining out. It's something I learned as a kid. It's common curtsey. I'd like to add- do not put your hat on the table. Put in your lap or a prong of your chair.
On a side note: men: take off your hat when the US flag passes during a parade. It's something we all should have learned but forget to do. |
It's true wearing a hat at a meal is uncouth but then so is wadding your napkin and tossing it on the table, putting elbows on the table, talking while chewing, ad infinitum but I was not appointed the manners police. It is also quite rude to comment on others bad manners. Also customs do change over time even if we don't like it.
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A lot of dinosaurs here worrying about something that they have no business worrying about. MYOB. If someone wants to wear a hat and it isn't in my face, I could care less. Now let's talk about the choking perfume the so called people with manners waft into the restaurants. I can't even breath sometimes, but they're not wearing a hat so I guess everything is great, according to Emily. |
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And perfume and hat wearing in restaurants are the same thing--rude. It's also rude to refer to someone as a dinosaur. And that's my opinion. |
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Hats off.
Should I Take My Hat Off at a Restaurant? - Table Manners - Food News
I may wear a hat at a restaurant like Burger King or Crispers but would probably take it off at a local Villages country club or at Bonefish Grill. Personally, if a man or woman had dirty hair, dandruff or some other hair problem maybe it is better if they leave the hat on their heads. |
I think this whole conversation is just plain silly. So many other things to be worried about and wearing a hat at a restaurant shouldn't be one of them. Like some said, it might actually be cleanlier to keep it on their heads than to take them off. I'm much more offended to hear rude, loud, profane obnoxious people than I am to see a sweet old man in a baseball cap. Good grief!!!!!
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As a guy I seldom wear a hat and see plenty of men wearing hats at various Restaurants here in the Villages and elsewhere. The ladies on the other hand 98% are dressed really nice, even when they are escorted by a man/guy wearing a Baseball Cap, while eating.
The guy.... totally clueless, and has no idea regarding table manners. This thread will not change the person(s) but if it makes a few guys think hmmmm, maybe just maybe it will be a wakeup call.. Remove Your Hat Guys .. It's polite and respectful. Besides who wants to look like a slob. |
I'd rather look at someone with a baseball hat on than listen to the tables nearby who think they are the only people in the restaurant, talk about manners. We have had several meals ruined lately by continuous extreme outburst that made lots of folks turn and and stare. It may be proper manners to remove your hat, but I've got better things to worry about. Life's too short to sweat the small stuff. Get over it folks!
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Just when I think I lived long enough to not be surprised how judgmental many people can be, I find myself surprised again. Surely there are more important things to champion during our short lives than when and where someone wears a hat. We all have our opinions and sharing those opinions can make good, interesting and though provoking conversation. For me, it is hard maintain a level of respect for someone when their paint brush of personal opinions becomes too wide and begins to lecture, label and categorize people because they don't meet that someone's expected standards. Especially when those standards based upon personal beliefs. There sure is a lot of painting going on in this thread. It seems like getting old should make the roads we travel even wider, not more narrow. Regards, Don |
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Golf course dress
Have you seen some of the outfits on the golf course? Apparently dress code is not enforced.
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Emily would not embarrass the perfume wearer, but she would not consider it polite if it was overwhelming to others. ;) |
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I have a friend of mine, who had a stroke, and had surgery on his skull, and the bone was just put back onto his skull. He's embarrassed to take his hat off!! So there has to be some le-ways, without knowing why he is wearing hat. Agree?
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There was a time not so long ago when it was considered bad manners to eat dinner without a jacket and tie. If we can agree that wearing a dirty, sweat stained hat to a restaurant is no different than wearing a dirty, sweat stained shirt to a restaurant (both are very wrong) then we get get to the issue of wearing a clean hat indoors. I was trained by being made to do many push-ups that one takes ones hat off when inside. But if others don't, I don't consider it another sign that the world is ending. I am one of those that think the woman's liberation movement of the 1960's not only freed women, but freed us all! So, outdated social mores that make it ok for a woman to sit at a restaurant with her hat on, but label the guy sitting next to her as uncouth for wearing a hat just don't make sense to me.
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Next time I eat at a truck stop, I shall demand that everyone uncover immediately. If there is any confusion, I shall quote Emily Post.
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12 of us had breakfast at Son Rise Cafe after golf and those that had worn caps golfing kept them on.
Believe me we look better with caps on rather than a bunch of hat hair. Having read this before today I looked around and saw a lot of caps. I do agree a better restaurant like Bonefish, Palmer etc. I would not wear a cap. How about the wife beater shirts some wear out in public? |
Respectfulness out the window
It is nice to see "gentleman" take their hats off in a restaurant. However, I think this respectful act has gone put the window......kinda like blowing your nose at the table. That use to be taboo too.
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It would be nice if they would excuse themselves and go to the restroom to blow their nose. I know, I know this is the new norm just wishful thinking. |
I find hats in restaurants less obtrusive than cell phone conversations while I'm dining
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Hats on in a restaurant are better than thinly veiled meanness anywhere.
Good manners are only the use of kindness written down. Most of us don't need to read Emily Post and things have changed a bit since our mom's taught us how to act in public. But sadly you can't make rules to make people nice in their hearts. |
It's been about 8 years since I played a round of golf at Bay Hill. Arnie requires you to remove your hat indoors there----and you were told to do so if you didn't. Those were Arnie's rules.
As a kid I rarely wore a hat unless playing ball. I should have been more careful about the sun and I wouldn't have to see a dermatologist as often. IMHO gentlemen take off their hats while indoors. That's what father said and father knows best! I agree with the post regarding loud mouth people in a restaurant----they disturb my peace more that someone wearing a hat or cap. |
A real gentlemen never keeps his hat on inside a building. It might be old fashion, but good manners never go out of style. Unfortunately, the younger generation never were taught this nor was it ever enforced. Growing up, I removed my sons hat many a time until he knew enough to remove it himself.
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I apologize, it was me but I was in a pinch and the removal of my hat may have been more insulting than the hat itself. For the most part I agree with you, men should remove their hats while dining out however we have to remember this is a golfing community and a lot of us come from the course directly to the CC for dinner or drinks and for the most part it is very warm here in Central Fl which causes some of us to perspire profusely which results in some very unappealing hairdos. I for one usually keep a hair brush in my car for just such a occasion but have as yet to acquire a brush for my golf cart (its on order). Even with the brush the hair can be less than appealing. So its a conundrum, a dichotomy, hat on insulting, hat off grotesque! What about that dog poop thing now that's a problem.
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it takes a certain lack of class not to know how to dress for particular venues, and occasions. a tank top with exposed hairy armpits and chest hair is not something that i find remotely appetizing when dining at a non-fast food restaurant. (think Mezza Luna, yes, it happened to me). going to church in shorts, tshirts with inappropriate sayings, and please....wear some underwear under your sweatpants.
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How about some of these rugs:boxing2: (Toupee's) I mean holly molly I rather look at Hat! After all the rugs are head gear for the model T's trying to be 40 fords;).
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Gentlemen don't wear hats indoors (religions excluded). :ho:
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I agree with RcMoser about the bad rugs.I'd much rather see a guy wear a hat than these bird's nests guys wear on their heads.Whenever I see a guy with a bad toupee I say "nice hair,too bad it's not his."
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I think it is fine to wear a hat/cap to restaurants. We do live in a Golfing community. We all the other activities also. I had rather see them on heads than see hair sticky up!
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As long as the hat is clean and doesn't obstruct my view, it doesn't bother me at all. Standards change all the time, and I think this one is changing. Now, the underwear display, or the bottom crack display bothers me A LOT. That standard should never change. How I miss a well-fitting belt.
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It's always been a pet peeve of mine seeing grown men wearing hats while dining in restaurants. It seems that we've adopted the non manners of the younger generation.
When I was a kid we were taught to take our hat off when entering a building. Where did that go? I suppose it's just part of the decline of civilization. |
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