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jimjamuser 08-28-2023 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyson (Post 2250472)
In NE Pa. we cant get a day without rain and a temp in the 80s. Worst summer ever. Golf courses are always cart path only so if you have a bad knee you miss a lot of playing.

The oceans are warmer, so there is more moisture in the air.

jimjamuser 08-28-2023 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2250538)
Originally Posted by lphallrd View Post
Same issue with bees buzzing around like crazy in central Ohio. Had to remove the hummingbird feeders to reduce the bees on patio and got stung in the process. Ouch!!





I think she is probably being bothered by hornets. Bees do not bother people, but right now the hornets are looking to hibernate for the winter and they are very aggressive.

That makes sense to me. The only honeybee that I ever heard of as being aggressive is the Africanized honeybee. But, I have NOT heard about them this year. But, I am NOT a bee expert.

jimjamuser 08-28-2023 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2250541)
Here in NH on the seacoast it is sunny, 75 degrees with very low humidity. It was very foggy this morning, but it burned off.

OH yes, to die for......please don't rub it in.

jimjamuser 08-28-2023 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2250592)
Except, it doesn’t

OK, that post is ssssooo eloquent on the subject that I will stop believing all the science that I have heard on TV or read online and I promise that I will believe that eloquent post.

jimjamuser 08-28-2023 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BleuM&M (Post 2250663)
Per the Sciencing educational website: "Water vapor, not carbon dioxide, is the Earth's most critical greenhouse gas. Besides the Sun, water vapor ranks as the second source of Earth's warmth, accounting for about 60 percent of the warming effect. Water vapor captures and holds warmth from the ground and carries that warmth into the atmosphere."

CO2 makes up about .004% of the atmosphere compared to H2O being between 2 - 4%. The Tonga eruption was significant and will cause warmer temps for several years, according to NASA.

OK, I promise to read more about the Tonga eruption and water vapor vs. CO2.

golfing eagles 08-28-2023 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250686)
OK, that post is ssssooo eloquent on the subject that I will stop believing all the science that I have heard on TV or read online and I promise that I will believe that eloquent post.

Now you’re making sense

golfing eagles 08-28-2023 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250667)
If the 1st sentence is AGREED UPON, then the 2nd sentence would be better erased because it IS CONFUSING!

Confusing to the indoctrinated. So I’ll spell it out: The warnings about excessive heat in this SHORT term heat wave of 4-5 WEEKS is a public service for those that are prone to heat stroke. The unending media BS pushing a fictitious agenda is what we’ve had more than enough of. The second sentence stands
When I get back to the US I’ll post a photograph that will blow your whole climate change caused by fossil fuel right out of the water. Hint: one picture is worth 10,000 repeated internal combustion engine posts

jimjamuser 08-29-2023 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2250701)
"Scientists say". Enough said. That's like saying "my data shows that"... Or "the survey says...". Or "my statistics show"... I'm NOT saying that it's wrong, BUT it's simple to make statements based upon "scientists". Case in point many decisions re COVID, and what "Scientists said", and were flat wrong.

And THIS is why I asked in my Thread post to pleeeaaasssse not go thru the Global Warming/Climate Change - or totally against it.....arguments. It's been so overdone on TOTV, and what changes??? just more yada - by all of us. And changes ZERO minds. I'm done with my yada.

1st....what scientists said about COVID was NOT wrong overall. Some ordinary people took what was said by the CDC EARLY-ON before all the tests and information had come in (developed). Then later as the KNOWLEDGE about the disease increased (matured), the CDC made other statements. Then the anti-science people compared the LATER knowledge with the EARLY knowledge and said, "Ah Ha, the CDC is inconsistent and therefore wrong, so nobody should believe them.
.......Well, science EVOLVES, knowledge does NOT stand still. To use a simple analogy.....think of scientific knowledge as a flowing stream that picks up more rain as it goes - do NOT think of it as a static, fixed in place, LAKE.
........And one point of a community forum IS to change minds.To put down in writing an individual opinion ( like mine) and MAYBE it changes some minds. If enough people read it then SOME minds MIGHT open up to that opinion. And SOME may NOT. It never hurts to try. People talk at church. People talk at bowling. That changes minds. When someone goes to bowling, they don't carry a sign that says, "only talk to me about the things that I have already made up my mind about." So, theoretically ALL human conversation involves SOME changing of minds.

ThirdOfFive 08-29-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250645)
And myself and others think that the MASSIVE problem of both increasing world population and Global Warming has been UNDER-REPORTED. Lately, the media has started to report the problem somewhat.

Somewhat?

The incessant brainwashing by media is enough to do Joe Goebbels proud.

jimjamuser 08-29-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2250727)
Confusing to the indoctrinated. So I’ll spell it out: The warnings about excessive heat in this SHORT term heat wave of 4-5 WEEKS is a public service for those that are prone to heat stroke. The unending media BS pushing a fictitious agenda is what we’ve had more than enough of. The second sentence stands
When I get back to the US I’ll post a photograph that will blow your whole climate change caused by fossil fuel right out of the water. Hint: one picture is worth 10,000 repeated internal combustion engine posts

"Back in the USA" we are waiting with baited breath. And why are the waters surrounding Florida so record HOT. And the approaching hurricane is becoming stronger. And why did I read a science article that predicted that in 30 years Florida will have a mile or more of its coastline underwater? And WHY are some smart people with homes there starting to sell. And I wonder with hurricanes happening to Florida each year, what does the Chamber of Commerce for Florida say to deflect those questions?
........And would I advise a friend to move here to Florida anytime soon? Answer.............no way Jose!

golfing eagles 08-29-2023 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250818)
"Back in the USA" we are up waiting with bated breath. And why are the waters surrounding Florida so record HOT. And the approaching hurricane is becoming stronger. And why did I read a science article that predicted that in 30 years Florida will have a mile or more of its coastline underwater? And WHY are some smart people with nomes there starting to sell. And I wonder with hurricanes happening to Florida each year, what does the Chamber of Commerce for Florida say to deflect those questions.
........And would I advise a friend to move here to Florida anytime soon? Answer.............no way Jose!

Coastline moving in a mile in 30 years??? Probably the same moron who told us the polar ice caps would be completely gone by 2010

Fredster 08-29-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250818)
"Back in the USA" we are waiting with baited breath. And why are the waters surrounding Florida so record HOT. And the approaching hurricane is becoming stronger. And why did I read a science article that predicted that in 30 years Florida will have a mile or more of its coastline underwater? And WHY are some smart people with nomes there starting to sell. And I wonder with hurricanes happening to Florida each year, what does the Chamber of Commerce for Florida say to deflect those questions.
........And would I advise a friend to move here to Florida anytime soon? Answer.............no way Jose!

Don’t even ask, I’m not parting with one of my NOMES!

jimjamuser 08-29-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2250842)
Coastline moving in a mile in 30 years??? Probably the same moron who told us the polar ice caps would be completely gone by 2010

As I understand it the Arctic is a sea that boats are travelling on and oil well platforms are being built. And Antarctica is rapidly losing its ice mass. They call it calving as the large ice masses fall into the sea.

golfing eagles 08-29-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250903)
As I understand it the Arctic is a sea that boats are travelling on and oil well platforms are being built. And Antarctica is rapidly losing its ice mass. They call it calving as the large ice masses fall into the sea.

So, in other words, you don’t understand it 😁😂😂

mrf0151 08-29-2023 01:00 PM

Have been here also 18 years. I think that as we get older, we can't handle heat like when we were younger. Over the years here I recall HOT, HOT temps in August and September. If this summer is slightly warmer, then maybe next year will be slightly cooler. I just wish the darn media and our government would not keep pounding into our brains all this global warming. They need to stop this and getting us folks all worked up about it.

LuvNH 08-29-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2250915)
Have been here also 18 years. I think that as we get older, we can't handle heat like when we were younger. Over the years here I recall HOT, HOT temps in August and September. If this summer is slightly warmer, then maybe next year will be slightly cooler. I just wish the darn media and our government would not keep pounding into our brains all this global warming. They need to stop this and getting us folks all worked up about it.

I don't see a lot of people getting all worked up about this, I see one person who gets very worked up about it. So yes, it is hot - very hot, and the summer heat seems to last longer than it used to, but whether or not it is global warming is a matter of personal belief. I'll wait, if I live long enough, to see if the polar ice melts and Florida disappears under water.

JMintzer 08-29-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250677)
Different people have different HEAT tolerances. But, I notice that there are fewer people playing Picklesball in the afternoon in the last 2 months. I think that the average TV Lander is seeing afternoon HEAT as a problem.

Oh, I don't know... Maybe because it's SUMMER?

JMintzer 08-29-2023 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250679)
The oceans are warmer, so there is more moisture in the air.

The underwater volcano eruption put more moisture in the air...

phylt 08-29-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2250842)
Coastline moving in a mile in 30 years??? Probably the same moron who told us the polar ice caps would be completely gone by 2010

And that masks & 6' & shots will protect one from you-know-what.

JMintzer 08-29-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by phylt (Post 2250701)
"Scientists say". Enough said. That's like saying "my data shows that"... Or "the survey says...". Or "my statistics show"... I'm NOT saying that it's wrong, BUT it's simple to make statements based upon "scientists". Case in point many decisions re COVID, and what "Scientists said", and were flat wrong.

And THIS is why I asked in my Thread post to pleeeaaasssse not go thru the Global Warming/Climate Change - or totally against it.....arguments. It's been so overdone on TOTV, and what changes??? just more yada - by all of us. And changes ZERO minds. I'm done with my yada.

https://media.tenor.com/b6pAfW3PHvcA...urvey-says.gif

Stu from NYC 08-29-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250903)
As I understand it the Arctic is a sea that boats are travelling on and oil well platforms are being built. And Antarctica is rapidly losing its ice mass. They call it calving as the large ice masses fall into the sea.

I think the calving has gone on for thousands of years.

Nice guy that I am we are organizing a trip to Antarctica next year for a personal inspection and will report back as soon as we finishing a census of the penguins to see if population is increasing.

JMintzer 08-29-2023 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250903)
As I understand it the Arctic is a sea that boats are travelling on and oil well platforms are being built. And Antarctica is rapidly losing its ice mass. They call it calving as the large ice masses fall into the sea.

Which has zero effect on the theoretical rising ocean levels...

jimjamuser 08-29-2023 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2250913)
So, in other words, you don’t understand it 😁😂😂

Well, I am certainly trying hard to understand it.

jimjamuser 08-29-2023 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2250915)
Have been here also 18 years. I think that as we get older, we can't handle heat like when we were younger. Over the years here I recall HOT, HOT temps in August and September. If this summer is slightly warmer, then maybe next year will be slightly cooler. I just wish the darn media and our government would not keep pounding into our brains all this global warming. They need to stop this and getting us folks all worked up about it.

Yes, this summer is slightly warmer than last summer and (guess what) scientists are saying for, at least, the next 8 years that each year will be slightly warmer than the next. They say that frogs won't jump out of a boiling saucepan just as long as you increase the heat s-l-o-w-l-y. Well, denying Global Warming is much the same. Only it is humans in an EVER-INCREASINGLY hot environment. Humans PRETEND that it isn't happening, but the scientists say, "Yes it IS". And the regular civilians keep pretending and the scientists keep warning - it is like a never-ending cycle. Florida coral reefs are dying because of excess CO2 in the water and the water temperature is so HIGH that it exceeds their liveable range. Around the world, scientists are recording the sea level rise. July was the hottest on record since temperature recording began.
.........It takes about 40 seconds with the Google machine to find out all these environmental facts.
......Some people say, "Ignore science at your own peril".

jimjamuser 08-29-2023 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2250934)
I don't see a lot of people getting all worked up about this, I see one person who gets very worked up about it. So yes, it is hot - very hot, and the summer heat seems to last longer than it used to, but whether or not it is global warming is a matter of personal belief. I'll wait, if I live long enough, to see if the polar ice melts and Florida disappears under water.

Not all of Florida will be underwater - just all the buildings within 1 mile of the PRESENT waterline in 30 years. Some of us will live to see that day. Now, one thing might prevent that bad news. If more people would start buying hybrid vehicles and all-electric vehicles.

jimjamuser 08-29-2023 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nsantelli (Post 2250357)
According to NASA, when the Hunga-Tonga Hunga-Ha'apai volcano erupted in 2022, it was the largest explosion since Krakatoa blew its top in 1883. Like Krakatoa, if this was a surface eruption we would be having a record cool summer, due to dust in the upper atmosphere. However, it was an underwater explosion which shot millions of tons of water vapor into the stratosphere. This increased the amount of water vapor in the upper atmosphere by 10% Water vapor is a "greenhouse" gas. Unfortunately NASA says it will take several years for water vapor levels to return to pre-explosion levels.

From NASA Aug 2, 2022 ......Water vapor from the Tonga volcano "would dissipate" "and would NOT exacerbate climate change effects".
..... From Space.com...."Earth's surface will be heating up - though its UNCLEAR by how much."

Stu from NYC 08-29-2023 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250985)
Not all of Florida will be underwater - just all the buildings within 1 mile of the PRESENT waterline in 30 years. Some of us will live to see that day. Now, one thing might prevent that bad news. If more people would start buying hybrid vehicles and all-electric vehicles.

Where would the electricity come from to charge all of these electric vehicles?

Do believe people should buy cars with high mpg though.

Vermilion Villager 08-29-2023 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250985)
Not all of Florida will be underwater - just all the buildings within 1 mile of the PRESENT waterline in 30 years. Some of us will live to see that day. Now, one thing might prevent that bad news. If more people would start buying hybrid vehicles and all-electric vehicles.

Good reply!!!!:beer3:

Vermilion Villager 08-29-2023 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2250094)
Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

I have one friend who has been in TV from almost the beginning and another native Floridian who has lived here for 65 years. Both said this is the hottest they remember. According to the NWS they are correct. Brooksville FL is 35 miles away and has kept records back to 1892 and Tampa to 1890. Both locations have recorded this July is the hottest on record.

Keefelane66 08-29-2023 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2251009)
Where would the electricity come from to charge all of these electric vehicles?

Do believe people should buy cars with high mpg though.

Where would the electricity come from to power all of the new homes they are building?

JMintzer 08-29-2023 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250985)
Not all of Florida will be underwater - just all the buildings within 1 mile of the PRESENT waterline in 30 years. Some of us will live to see that day. Now, one thing might prevent that bad news. If more people would start buying hybrid vehicles and all-electric vehicles.

When are you buying yours?

golfing eagles 08-29-2023 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2251021)
I have one friend who has been in TV from almost the beginning and another native Floridian who has lived here for 65 years. Both said this is the hottest they remember. According to the NWS they are correct. Brooksville FL is 35 miles away and has kept records back to 1892 and Tampa to 1890. Both locations have recorded this July is the hottest on record.

So what? Was it hotter in 1889, or 1643, or 870 BC??? This is a game played in tens of thousands of years, not the last century and a half. I can pretty much guarantee it was hotter 65 million years ago

golfing eagles 08-29-2023 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250985)
Not all of Florida will be underwater - just all the buildings within 1 mile of the PRESENT waterline in 30 years. Some of us will live to see that day. Now, one thing might prevent that bad news. If more people would start buying hybrid vehicles and all-electric vehicles.

Let’s see, 30 years from now is 2053, 43 years after all the polar ice melted. Oh, wait, that didn’t happen. So I guess the alarmists need a new dire prediction. So, can we get a preview of the next one when 2053 doesn’t pan out? Or even just an explanation of why we still have polar ice?

jimjamuser 08-30-2023 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2251021)
I have one friend who has been in TV from almost the beginning and another native Floridian who has lived here for 65 years. Both said this is the hottest they remember. According to the NWS they are correct. Brooksville FL is 35 miles away and has kept records back to 1892 and Tampa to 1890. Both locations have recorded this July is the hottest on record.

I agree. And that shows 2 subjective reports from 2 individuals and 2 temperature measurement reports from 2 different cities. Smart people need to be 1st aware of a problem and next DO something about the problem. When you see the loud IC engine golf cars driving by WITHOUT catalytic converters - just be aware that they are part of the problem. When you see a hybrid car or truck drive by or a quiet E-vehicle - just be aware that the drivers of those vehicles are doing THEIR part to alleviate the problem.
........They also have the advantage that they go to the gas station less and thus save their important TIME.

jimjamuser 08-30-2023 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2251022)
Where would the electricity come from to power all of the new homes they are building?

Some smart people that are retiring may be looking at the TV reports about the hurricanes here in Florida for the last 2 years - they may choose to forgo Florida in favor of Tn. and the Carolinas. And we are NOT out of hurricane season yet this year.

jimjamuser 08-30-2023 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2251046)
Let’s see, 30 years from now is 2053, 43 years after all the polar ice melted. Oh, wait, that didn’t happen. So I guess the alarmists need a new dire prediction. So, can we get a preview of the next one when 2053 doesn’t pan out? Or even just an explanation of why we still have polar ice?

From what I have read Antarctica's ice is now decreasing as are the world's glaciers. This JULY was the HOTTEST on record and the predictions are for continuing records set for the next 7 years.

Two Bills 08-30-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2250959)
I think the calving has gone on for thousands of years.

Nice guy that I am we are organizing a trip to Antarctica next year for a personal inspection and will report back as soon as we finishing a census of the penguins to see if population is increasing.

Satellites reveal catastrophic year for emperor penguins amid climate crisis in Antarctica (photos) | Space

jimjamuser 08-30-2023 12:50 PM

If you read the last paragraph in that article you see that the ice is decreasing rapidly and oceans will rise and further global warming is likely.

golfing eagles 08-30-2023 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2251338)
If you read the last paragraph in that article you see that the ice is decreasing rapidly and oceans will rise and further global warming is likely.

And Santa Claus is real and fairy princesses kiss a frog and turn him into a prince and they rode off on a unicorn and lived happily ever after

Tvflguy 08-30-2023 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2251009)
Where would the electricity come from to charge all of these electric vehicles?

Do believe people should buy cars with high mpg though.

I’m the OP. I should not really be amazed at how my initial Thread went in so many different directions. OMG. But re this post, we’re not really Green, but I would say that if an average driver would test an EV, esp the Tesla it’s a different world. The drive is an eye-opener. In a very good way. We will be ordering our new Tesla within a month. Amazing, and actually so many of the nay-sayers are so wrong. IMO.


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