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Mrs. Robinson 03-09-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1370330)
What does any of that have to do with traffic? My understanding of the definition of traffic in this context is the number of cars on the road relative to the ability of the road to handle that many cars.
I just don't see waiting for five or six cars at a stop light as being heavy traffic.
At rush hour it can take an hour or more to go ten miles to get into a city. When I lived in Manila it once took me over an hour to go two miles.
Try going from Braintree, MA to downtown Boston at 7:00 am. It's about 12 miles and I would guess it would take 45 minutes to an hour.
Once you get into a major city there are thousands of cars and it's stop and go everywhere.
The round abouts in The Villages alleviate the traffic conditions. They allow traffic to flow more easily than stop signs. Think about what it would be if there were four way stops at every one of those intersections. People here don't understand the right of way laws as it is. We'd have people not going when they should and waving on people that don't have the right of way.
Give me round abouts and this light to moderate traffic and I'm fine.

No one is talking about the actual definition of the word traffic. All comments have to do with traffic here.

The circles in TV do not alleviate traffic conditions; most people do not know how to navigate them, which is the real problem.

I never made mention to four-way stop signs. Our two main arteries of Morse and Buena Vista should be free flowing with only the three traffic lights which are currently in use. The stop signs I made reference to would be for egress from each village on to these two arteries. It would be no different that yielding as we currently (are supposed to) do.

golfing eagles 03-09-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1370510)
No one is talking about the actual definition of the word traffic. All comments have to do with traffic here.

The circles in TV do not alleviate traffic conditions; most people do not know how to navigate them, which is the real problem.

I never made mention to four-way stop signs. Our two main arteries of Morse and Buena Vista should be free flowing with only the three traffic lights which are currently in use. The stop signs I made reference to would be for egress from each village on to these two arteries. It would be no different that yielding as we currently (are supposed to) do.

Two applicable quotes:

"You can't fix stupid"----Judge Judy

"Momma always said stupid is as stupid does"---Forrest Gump

dillywho 03-09-2017 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1367136)
Heavy traffic? Huge backup? Have you people ever driven in any of our cities, or worse yet, cities in foreign countries? We are spoiled here in The Villages. Traffic goes from almost non existent to moderately light.

You sound like my kids in Jacksonville. They laugh at me when I say something about our traffic. Of course, my son forgets about the non-traffic problems where he grew up...I haven't.

It's ok, we're retired so I don't care. I just leave a little earlier and if something holds me up and I'm late, so be it. The only complaint I really have is those people from the "big cities" that drive like they are still in the "big cities". SLOW DOWN!!

I remember the nail-biting ride this lil' ole country gal had in NYC. Being from a small town in comparison, Lubbock, TX, I had never experienced anything close to it! Interstates had not even come into full use (system created 1956) in 1960. The cab I was in went from the Idlewild Airport to the International Hotel. The guy put his hand on the horn and his foot in the carburetor and didn't let go of either one, weaving his way through traffic, until we slid to a stop at the hotel! :eek::pray:

biker1 03-09-2017 02:48 PM

"Most people do not know how to navigate" (the roundabouts) is an exaggeration. If this was true, you would expect a high rate of accidents and tie ups and that does not happen. It would, however, be accurate to say that most people do know how to navigate the roundabouts but people only remember the small number that have issues. It is easy to avoid issues - don't ever be adjacent to another car in the roundabouts.

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1370510)
No one is talking about the actual definition of the word traffic. All comments have to do with traffic here.

The circles in TV do not alleviate traffic conditions; most people do not know how to navigate them, which is the real problem.

I never made mention to four-way stop signs. Our two main arteries of Morse and Buena Vista should be free flowing with only the three traffic lights which are currently in use. The stop signs I made reference to would be for egress from each village on to these two arteries. It would be no different that yielding as we currently (are supposed to) do.


Polar Bear 03-09-2017 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1370510)
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="4"]...The circles in TV do not alleviate traffic conditions; most people do not know how to navigate them, which is the real problem...

The roundabouts are far more efficient than signals or stop signs. And "most people do not know how to navigate them" is a gross exageration.

rubicon 03-09-2017 05:06 PM

Thank God for the round abouts or there would be bottle necks glore here

VApeople 03-09-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1370605)
Thank God for the round abouts or there would be bottle necks glore here

I completely agree with you. I don't find the roundabouts a problem at all.

Jaggy 03-10-2017 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1370722)
I completely agree with you. I don't find the roundabouts a problem at all.

i just treat every other car in the roundabouts like they are toxic and give em an evil eye.
:22yikes:

bbbbbb 03-10-2017 09:06 AM

traffic
 
Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, when Fenney gets occupied a lot those folks will come here to shop and to do the Doctors and the looking around,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, guess what you will see then?

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:pepper2:

graciegirl 03-10-2017 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bbbbbb (Post 1370808)
Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, when Fenney gets occupied a lot those folks will come here to shop and to do the Doctors and the looking around,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, guess what you will see then?

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:pepper2:

THAT argument again. If they build homes, then shopping will be built. It WILL. Supply and demand. Patience, Grasshopper (Bogie Shooter says that)

I think our roundabouts are BRILLIANT. Mrs. Robinson, study up. And Koo kook achoo.

AND to the folks on here who I just love, like, tolerate, except for two who I could bop, PLEASE drive carefully. I would like you to be alive and whole in ten more days when the traffic will become remarkably BETTER.

Sigh. Even those two.

Challenger 03-10-2017 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1370605)
Thank God for the round abouts or there would be bottle necks glore here

Right on-- without them , traffic would be horrifically slow , especially "in season"

Opmoochler 03-10-2017 12:40 PM

NYC taxi driver
 
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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 1370522)
You sound like my kids in Jacksonville. They laugh at me when I say something about our traffic. Of course, my son forgets about the non-traffic problems where he grew up...I haven't.

It's ok, we're retired so I don't care. I just leave a little earlier and if something holds me up and I'm late, so be it. The only complaint I really have is those people from the "big cities" that drive like they are still in the "big cities". SLOW DOWN!!

I remember the nail-biting ride this lil' ole country gal had in NYC. Being from a small town in comparison, Lubbock, TX, I had never experienced anything close to it! Interstates had not even come into full use (system created 1956) in 1960. The cab I was in went from the Idlewild Airport to the International Hotel. The guy put his hand on the horn and his foot in the carburetor and didn't let go of either one, weaving his way through traffic, until we slid to a stop at the hotel! :eek::pray:

I grew up in Manhattan and dodged taxis as a pedestrian until I went away to college. When I first drove a car to the city, the only thing that kept me sane was that I at least knew where I was going, as I prayed I wouldn't be killed by a taxi. My driving goal was to become as assertive and adept as a NYC cabbie. One day, my mom gave me the unsolicited accolade, "You drive just like a NYC taxi driver!" So, the crazy people in the roundabouts don't scare me at all; I just assume they're out to get me!

graciegirl 03-10-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Opmoochler (Post 1370947)
I grew up in Manhattan and dodged taxis as a pedestrian until I went away to college. When I first drove a car to the city, the only thing that kept me sane was that I at least knew where I was going, as I prayed I wouldn't be killed by a taxi. My driving goal was to become as assertive and adept as a NYC cabbie. One day, my mom gave me the unsolicited accolade, "You drive just like a NYC taxi driver!" So, the crazy people in the roundabouts don't scare me at all; I just assume they're out to get me!

OMIGOSH. Is that YOU?????

golfing eagles 03-10-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1370967)
OMIGOSH. Is that YOU?????

I think it is. While most people post "SLOW DOWN", Olie would like the rest of us to "SPEED UP" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Chatbrat 03-10-2017 02:12 PM

Keep everyone behind you and you will be safe

ColdNoMore 03-10-2017 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Opmoochler (Post 1370947)
I grew up in Manhattan and dodged taxis as a pedestrian until I went away to college. When I first drove a car to the city, the only thing that kept me sane was that I at least knew where I was going, as I prayed I wouldn't be killed by a taxi. My driving goal was to become as assertive and adept as a NYC cabbie. One day, my mom gave me the unsolicited accolade, "You drive just like a NYC taxi driver!" So, the crazy people in the roundabouts don't scare me at all; I just assume they're out to get me!

The very first time I drove in The City (early 80's), it dawned on me that there were only two rules.

1. ME FIRST.

2. Whatever it takes for...ME FIRST.

Once I made up my mind that I wouldn't make the week without at least one fender bender and that the speeds are relatively low, so personal injury was not a big concern...I started following the two rules. :D

I have now driven in The City probably two dozens times and have yet (fingers crossed)...to even get a door ding. :shrug:

The Chipster 03-11-2017 08:34 PM

Our boo hoo, you had to wait maybe 60 seconds? Try Atlanta traffic sometime at rush hour and you will have a big smile on your face at your village entrance.

Brucieboy 03-20-2017 08:39 AM

What is the number of the statute or traffic code making waving carts through against the law?

Chatbrat 03-20-2017 11:53 AM

316.2045--is the statute

Reiver 03-20-2017 12:06 PM

The law never defines who has the right of way, only who MUST yield.

Florida Drivers Handbook - Right of Way

EPutnam1863 03-20-2017 12:19 PM

Traffic is one reason why we gave up living in Florida and moved back to the north where we live on three acres with no neighbors and only one traffic light between our property and town.

RickeyD 03-20-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EPutnam1863 (Post 1375342)
Traffic is one reason why we gave up living in Florida and moved back to the north where we live on three acres with no neighbors and only one traffic light between our property and town.



So, why would you be on here torturing yourself ?

Chatbrat 03-20-2017 12:25 PM

Its not just right of way, unless you are a law enforcement officer, you can not control traffic flow

Shimpy 03-20-2017 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1370413)
---but it didn't stop some people from getting on the 15 item express line with 65 items, then whipping out a fistful of coupons, half of which were expired or not for items purchased, followed by an argument with the cashier. Then they whip out their food stamps, and pay the remaining $2.17 with a check for $102.17 to get cash back, followed by an argument over showing proper ID, then a manager call, then another argument, and sometimes and accusation of discrimination on whatever basis. Was once behind a woman who had only 12 items and paid with cash----a bag of change that she slowly counted out $42.37 in quarters, dimes, nickels, and pennies.

Sounds like the line I always get in because it was "shorter"

Laker14 03-20-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1375326)
316.2045--is the statute

i thought that was pi.

Shimpy 03-20-2017 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1367136)
Heavy traffic? Huge backup? Have you people ever driven in any of our cities, We are spoiled here in The Villages. Traffic goes from almost non existent to moderately light.

Try driving on I95 in Miami during rush hour. They, a while back had a police chase that lasted for 30 miles and reached speeds up to 14 mph.

champion6 03-21-2017 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Brucieboy (Post 1375208)
What is the number of the statute or traffic code making waving carts through against the law?

And another source -- The VHA Voice, February 2017

VHA General Meeting Questions & Answers
Question 10: Is it a traffic violation for people driving in a thoroughfare to stop and wave through vehicles at a stop sign? This is a frequent occurrence at the Bailey Trail gate entering and exiting Sunset Pointe and with drivers coming off the Morse Blvd. bridge into Lake Sumter Landing. Trying to be courteous, drivers often stop oncoming traffic to wave on golf carts, causing traffic backups.
Lt. Siemer: Yes, this is a traffic violation when a driver interrupts the flow of traffic. The driver can be stopped and given a traffic ticket.


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