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GaryW 09-23-2013 02:49 AM

A School Zone is a School one no matter where it is located. Some people will complain about anything. Not only does it protect any child that needed to be around that area but also all the congestion from parents dropping kids off. Slow the traffic down around any school. We had SCSO at our Plant Safety Meeting. The Deputy was telling us about a driver they stopped on 466 in the School Zone. 58 in 20. Even if not School Zone that is speeding. Kidding Me Right...

Wing-nut2 09-23-2013 06:22 AM

If you don't speed . . . . there's no problem!

eremite06 09-23-2013 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wing-nut2 (Post 751006)
If you don't speed . . . . there's no problem!

:agree:

redwitch 09-23-2013 08:56 AM

Hey! I speed. You should have seen me when my grandson was airlifted to Orlando and we had no clue what his injuries, if any, were. I made it from Hemingway to Arnold Palmer in 38 minutes. (BTW -- I did have a NASCAR license in my younger days.)

Normally, I will drive as fast as conditions permit regardless of the actual speed limit. If I get pulled over, I'll accept my lecture or ticket since I know it was my choice to not go the speed limit. At the same time, I'll happily slow down in heavy rain and fog and have no problems when other cars pass me (except to shake my head in disbelief that they would be so foolish). I go 20 mph in school zones. Period.

There is no question that there are speed traps in this country. They are a way for communities to add money to their coffers. However, I have no issue with radar guns in school zones, whether or not kids walk there. Dropping off kids in vehicles means heavier traffic. Sometimes kids will jump out of a car long before they should to get to class on time (my daughter was known to get out to get away from my singing to certain songs). If it takes tickets to get the message across that it is a school zone and they must slow down, then let the tickets flow.

capecodbob 09-23-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 751056)
Hey! I speed. You should have seen me when my grandson was airlifted to Orlando and we had no clue what his injuries, if any, were. I made it from Hemingway to Arnold Palmer in 38 minutes. (BTW -- I did have a NASCAR license in my younger days.)

Normally, I will drive as fast as conditions permit regardless of the actual speed limit. If I get pulled over, I'll accept my lecture or ticket since I know it was my choice to not go the speed limit. At the same time, I'll happily slow down in heavy rain and fog and have no problems when other cars pass me (except to shake my head in disbelief that they would be so foolish). I go 20 mph in school zones. Period.

There is no question that there are speed traps in this country. They are a way for communities to add money to their coffers. However, I have no issue with radar guns in school zones, whether or not kids walk there. Dropping off kids in vehicles means heavier traffic. Sometimes kids will jump out of a car long before they should to get to class on time (my daughter was known to get out to get away from my singing to certain songs). If it takes tickets to get the message across that it is a school zone and they must slow down, then let the tickets flow.

Last winter I did 25mph in my golf cart. At least that's what the speedometer showed. There were no other carts on the trail so I didn't get to "fly by" one of those slow-pokes going 15... :popcorn:
But to stay on the subject:
Warren, you seem like a great guy and I kinda see your point. But we all need to "throttle back" a little and shut off the afterburners. It was not easy for me, coming from New England. I thought there was something wrong with my middle finger when I got to TV. Three months went by and I hadn't use it. I thought...will it fall off from not being used? I still have it (just in case) haha!
Bob

perrjojo 09-23-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 750632)
It is nearly impossible to get a conversation on happy postings. For example; What if I submitted a posting regarding the outstanding golf game I had last week, or that I won $20 for closest to the pin. You get the drift ???:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause::BigAppl ause::BigApplause:

So you really don't believe this is highway robbery? You just want to get a lot of folks blood pressure up!

golf2140 09-23-2013 11:29 AM

Not sure how the fine money is split up in Florida. In Pennsylvania, before I retired the town received $12.50 of a paid traffic fine. Half of the citations issued, the drivers asked for a hearing. Officer attended the hearing received 4 hours overtime, appoximately $150.00. As you can see it actually cost Pennsylvania towns money to issue citations. No cash cow there !!!!!!!!!

looneycat 09-23-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 750320)
Almost every time I travel thru the 20 MPH school zone area on route 466, I see a county deputy using radar. I know that in certain areas, slow school zones protect the children, but at this particular school zone, I have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built. Children load and unload quite a distance from the highway. Is this 20 MPH school zone really ncessary or is it just a cash cow for the county as they write a lot of tickets in that location.

people who obey the limit don't get tickets so I'd say that the tickets are probably justified....it is just a short distance after all!

janmcn 09-23-2013 04:14 PM

On the subject of speeding tickets, did you know in Florida, since July 1, 2013, you can be ticketed for driving too slow if you are in the "passing" lane and driving slower than the posted speed limit by 10 mph or more. The fine is $60.

The only exceptions to the new law is if you are making a left turn or overtaking another vehicle. The new law is House Bill 7125.

OpusX1 09-23-2013 06:04 PM

I don't know about Florida but here in Ohio if no children are present irregardless of the flashing lights the regular speed limits are in effect. Like the Friday after thanksgiving no kids, lights flashing, regular speed limit. Also be aware that all of Belvedere from the gate to 466 is a school zone during posted hours. No flashing lights. I do see many kids crossing to get to the library.

e-flyer 09-23-2013 06:36 PM

Yep, deputy was sitting across from the High School this afternoon around 2:30pm. Had the hand held radar gun pointed out his window at all who passed by. It's simple, go the speed limit and you won't get a ticket. If you are in a hurry, find an alternate route.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 09-23-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 750627)
You're kidding, right ??? Just in the past three days I have seen radar at the school zones and twice on Beuna Vista. You mut leave the house to make these observances.

No, I'm not kidding. I leave the house quite often, at least every day, in both my golf cart and my car and I don't think that I've ever seen LEOs with radar around here.

In fact, I got through that school zone at least twice a week.

Warren Kiefer 09-23-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OpusX1 (Post 751347)
I don't know about Florida but here in Ohio if no children are present irregardless of the flashing lights the regular speed limits are in effect. Like the Friday after thanksgiving no kids, lights flashing, regular speed limit. Also be aware that all of Belvedere from the gate to 466 is a school zone during posted hours. No flashing lights. I do see many kids crossing to get to the library.

I don't under the two replys about kids going to the library. The entire quote wa about school zones on Route 466. Are you saying kids are crossing Route 466 and if so, which library ??

I still like the idea of the deputies getting out of their cars, without the radar and standing in the actual roadway, This accomplishes everything, traffic control for any kids crossing the highway, it will also definately slow traffic and the best part is that no one get a ticket and finally the deputies get a little much needed exercise. This is how it is done near the Daily Sun facility and it :a040::a040::a040:works exceedingly well.

GaryW 09-24-2013 05:09 AM

The kids use the sidewalks on 466 by Buffalo Glenn Softball Complex. Regardless it is school zone. Speed limits are for everyone safety in those zones. Why the commotion, relax, have some coffee, do the speed limit and you have no problems...

That is like saying the speed limit on B.Vista is 35. But it should be 45, so why do the SCSO patrol that so much north of 466. It is what it is.

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Florida School Zones

babbs455 09-24-2013 06:10 AM

A school zone is just that a school zone...even if the kids are not crossing there it is still a zone..been that way for ever...it works until you get some yahoo trying to buck the system when they are late for something bobbing and weaving thru the line...obey the limits, obey the signs and that radar gun will stay off you!

Barefoot 09-24-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OpusX1 (Post 751347)
Also be aware that all of Belvedere from the gate to 466 is a school zone during posted hours. No flashing lights. I do see many kids crossing to get to the library.

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 751472)
I don't under the two replys about kids going to the library. The entire quote wa about school zones on Route 466. Are you saying kids are crossing Route 466 and if so, which library ?

Opus stated that all of Belvedere from CR 466 to the Gate is also a school zone with kids crossing (Belvedere) to get to the Library.

Warren, I think the overwhelming consensus is that drivers in the vicinity of the Charter School should slow down, obey the laws, and keep the kids safe!

dsned 09-24-2013 07:40 AM

I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.

rubicon 09-24-2013 07:56 AM

The Gang of the PC
 
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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 750320)
Almost every time I travel thru the 20 MPH school zone area on route 466, I see a county deputy using radar. I know that in certain areas, slow school zones protect the children, but at this particular school zone, I have never seen a child crossing or even near the 466 highway in all the years since the schools were built. Children load and unload quite a distance from the highway. Is this 20 MPH school zone really ncessary or is it just a cash cow for the county as they write a lot of tickets in that location.

Warren: I have read all of the posts and despite all the intellectualizing the fact is that the cops do stand heavy here. I saw a guy chased by the cops just the other day. You are also correct in that for the greater portion of the school zone you will not find kids crossing yet the school zone stretches quite a ways.

finally Warren by now you should have recognized that TOTV has the Gang of the politically correct and as such they always default to PC if they view it as a slight toward The Villages . Please don't get mad at them its an involuntary reaction.

nitehawk 09-24-2013 07:57 AM

:bigbow:
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Originally Posted by dsned (Post 751595)
I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.


graciegirl 09-24-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nitehawk (Post 751606)
:bigbow:

Boy Howdy.

I can't remember if there were school zone signs when me and Martha Washington walked to school, or even cars, but I think that slowing down in the area where schools are is a good idea, just to practice a little self control.

I can't see how agreeing with that idea would be politically correct or incorrect. It is a rule. Follow it. OR

Book'em Danno!

dillywho 09-24-2013 08:54 AM

Please Tell Me
 
What is wrong with going the speed limit everywhere? They are posted limits, not suggestions. If you are late, then just be late and plan to leave earlier next time. "Lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on everyone else", as my boss used to say when the engineers would turn in paperwork for revision on an emergency basis.

Bogie Shooter 09-24-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dsned (Post 751595)
I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.

Oh, the good old days..................................

Bogie Shooter 09-24-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dsned (Post 751595)
I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.

You really believe this? Really?

nitehawk 09-24-2013 10:54 AM

:BigApplause::BigApplause:
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Originally Posted by dsned (Post 751595)
I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.


graciegirl 09-24-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 751637)
You really believe this? Really?

Some people are just born contrary Bogie. We get annoyed on this forum with their negativity, but imagine what their spouses have to deal with 24/7.

golf2140 09-24-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 751706)
Some people are just born contrary Bogie. We get annoyed on this forum with their negativity, but imagine what their spouses have to deal with 24/7.

:sing::sing::sing::sing::sing:

CFrance 09-24-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 751625)
Boy Howdy.

I can't remember if there were school zone signs when me and Martha Washington walked to school, or even cars, but I think that slowing down in the area where schools are is a good idea, just to practice a little self control.

I can't see how agreeing with that idea would be politically correct or incorrect. It is a rule. Follow it. OR

Book'em Danno!

You and Martha and Dolly Madison and I didn't have flashing school zone lights because we had crossing guards. Eventually automation took over, most guards left, and flashing lights are not getting the job done. Hence the radar guns. And no doubt it's a cash cow, but why not if it's going to keep the kids safer. I see kids up there crossing frequently. If one kid up there got hurt, there would be hue and cry on TOTV re police not doing their job.

DougB 09-24-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dsned (Post 751595)
I am a firm believer that the gov. doesn't care about you or your children so yes it is a school zone and yes it is a way to make money for the county. I grew up without the benefit of school zone and I had to learn to watch for cars and stay aware of my surrounding and keep myself safe.

You didn't need school zones in your day. Model Ts only went so fast

Shimpy 09-24-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 751898)
You didn't need school zones in your day. Model Ts only went so fast

School zones are restricted to 20 MPH, but my neighborhood streets are 15 MPH. I guess that says that us old folks aren't as good as little kids at crossing the street.

red tail 09-24-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 751706)
Some people are just born contrary Bogie. We get annoyed on this forum with their negativity, but imagine what their spouses have to deal with 24/7.

well said!

donb9006 09-24-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 751898)
You didn't need school zones in your day. Model Ts only went so fast

They could go 45mph.

DougB 09-24-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 751919)
School zones are restricted to 20 MPH, but my neighborhood streets are 15 MPH. I guess that says that us old folks aren't as good as little kids at crossing the street.

That's probably true.


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