Wonder what the going rate is to be A rated?

Since 1990 I have bought four Toyotas (a Supra, two Tacomas and one Tundra), seven Mercedes Benz ( One SL, two S Class, three E class and one C class), a Porsche Cayenne S, three BMWs (a 323i, an X5 50i and an X5 M50i) and two GMC Acadias. Every negotiation experience was different.

After VaPeople’s response to how to buy a car, i suspect they have been taken by car salesmen many times and never realized it.

If you negotiate with a car salesman you will get taken. Make a firm offer, but do not negotiate. Period.

I agree about having a firm price in mind before even entering a dealership showroom. Yet a few times I have done even better than the firm price I had in mind so I normally offer less. There can be both publicized and unpublicized factory incentives, hold backs, a dealer needing to meet a sales quota, a sales person needing to sell one more unit to win l a trip to Hawaii, any number of factors.

Better yet only deal with the internet manager. Know the vehicle you want to purchase. Research what dealer cost is then make your call to the internet manager. He/she will have all your paperwork complete before you walk in the door. Pay and drive home. It is stress free.

Yes. I have done that when ordering an SUV. Even better the dealer made a pricing mistake in my favor which they honored and I got a 2017 X5 50i for $350 over dealer cost. The Newport Beach dealer was selling BMWs hand over fist over the internet and telephone to rich Chinese who at that time were buying up property in Orange County, CA. When I was in the dealership ordering my SUV a Chinese speaking salesman was in the next booth selling away. I could not believe they would sell me an expensive high demand SUV in a high demand area at a high demand time at such a low markup.

:a20: You just broke the glass on my Bee Ess meter.:jester:

My wife took our Passport there for the recall - nothing like that happened to her. Of course, she’s a retired Federal Agent and all she has to do is put a hand up and with “the look”, that will back people off. 😉

Oh, I forgot, also a VW V-8 Touareg.

Took our vehicle there for an oil change and have been pestered ever since. I’ve repeatedly told them don’t call me, I’ll call you but they don’t quite know how to understand that. When it does come time to trade I’ll probably be going to Tampa as these dealerships close to the Villages are just nuts.

Apparently they think that villagers cannot walk and chew gum at the same time.

Just say no - stop complaining.

If they subscribe to TOTV, that might be a reasonable conclusion.

Thankfully all you on totv warned us when we were looking for a new car to avoid Jenkins and we did. We went to Clermont to Central Florida Hyundai and had a great experience. This was two years ago when it was almost impossible to get a car without paying thousands over list. We paid the only the MSRP and there weren't any extras jammed into the price. We will never, ever walk into a Jenkins anything if we can avoid it.