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Pat2015 11-29-2023 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2278202)
When it comes to pools the things to consider are the expensive upkeep and when you go to sell the house, your size of potential buyers is much smaller as the majority of buyers do not want a home pool.

There’s quite a few buyers that won’t buy a house here in FL that doesn’t have a pool, or at least room for a pool.

Topspinmo 11-29-2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat2015 (Post 2278244)
There’s quite a few buyers that won’t buy a house here in FL that doesn’t have a pool, or at least room for a pool.


IMO To keep up with jones, majority I see that have pools are hardly ever in them. Besides some are just large bath tubes in sardine cramped homes. Sure the 15 % expect pool on their mansions.

Topspinmo 11-29-2023 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pennyt (Post 2278232)
When we looked at homes in TV, we saw so many had not been updated. They looked old and tired. We quickly looked past those and eventually bought a new home that we added things to after the sale. We love our crown molding as it makes the living areas look finished. We put in closet organizer shelving and enclosed our lanai to make a sunroom for additional square footage. Haven't regretted any of that. Each year we do some kind of upgrade to our house to keep it current. Last year we took out all the carpeting and installed hardwood flooring so now all floors are hard surface. We've freshened our landscaping twice over the 12 years we've lived here. Not all the upgrades will increase the price of the house, BUT it will make our house more competitive in the marketplace. (I was a realtor for many years)

So you updated to keep updated…
Some people can’t stop updating or spending money…..:ohdear:

ThirdOfFive 11-29-2023 10:14 AM

Not precisely a house upgrade...but as vacuum cleaning is being discussed, any opinions on those "Roomba" robot floor cleaners?

MSGirl 11-29-2023 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2277967)
Agree with Central Vac. Disagree with fireplace because we like the ambience they give off when used.

I would put Crown Moulding on the list of useless upgrades. It makes a place look too formal, too "up north" and too "old people live here." Same with dark heavy furniture. I don't care how Thomasville, Ethan Allen, or custom it is, dark heavy furniture looks too "up north" too formal, and too "old people."

IMHO.

I agree with the crown molding! It does say old folks live here! When my daughter was building her house, her designer advised her not to get crown molding! She said young folks want a more modern look.
Add to the list- painting your driveway. It wears over time and actually begins to age the house. Looks beautiful in the beginning- later not so much. Too much upkeep. Just power wash the driveway! It’s a driveway after all.

Villagesgal 11-29-2023 10:58 AM

Painted driveways look dated and terrible after a few years and need to be redone. What a waste of money. Painted garage floors are another waste of money. Nothing wrong with concrete. If a new buyer wants it, they can have it done to their taste. As far as interior flooring goes, same thing, you may love that shade of wood floor and buyers may hate it. Don't chase what you think buyers would like. Do renovations that you like and will enjoy otherwise you're just wasting your money.

fdpaq0580 11-29-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Villagesgal (Post 2278292)
Painted driveways look dated and terrible after a few years and need to be redone. What a waste of money. Painted garage floors are another waste of money. Nothing wrong with concrete. If a new buyer wants it, they can have it done to their taste. As far as interior flooring goes, same thing, you may love that shade of wood floor and buyers may hate it. Don't chase what you think buyers would like. Do renovations that you like and will enjoy otherwise you're just wasting your money.

Total agreement. Unless you are planning to flip the house, this is supposed to be your HOME. It should be what you want, not what others think you should or shouldn't have. The only one you need to please is you!

coffeebean 11-29-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2278166)
In The Villages, pools are a good upgrade.

Granite countertops are becoming dated, quartz is the trend now, although it will change. But an upgrade to the kitchen is a great vestment, the kitchen is the first thing you see when you walk into a house.

The kitchen is also the place that everyone hangs out when social gathering.

coffeebean 11-29-2023 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2278182)
Love when some paint their driveways then won’t park on them or run security tape to keep vehicles off. Like they do with brick driveways. Like neighbors want put up with that.

Seems the taping off is just to let the driveway dry and cure. Do people in you neighborhood actually leave the security tape up all the time? Seems excessive; no?

coffeebean 11-29-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MSGirl (Post 2278280)
I agree with the crown molding! It does say old folks live here! When my daughter was building her house, her designer advised her not to get crown molding! She said young folks want a more modern look.
Add to the list- painting your driveway. It wears over time and actually begins to age the house. Looks beautiful in the beginning- later not so much. Too much upkeep. Just power wash the driveway! It’s a driveway after all.

I agree about the crown molding. It not only screams "old folks live here" but, to me, also makes the rooms appear smaller and the ceilings not as high.

Regarding the plain concrete driveways......I much prefer pavers which appear "richer" to me than painted driveways. But.....that is just my opinion.

Nana2Teddy 11-29-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2278182)
Love when some paint their driveways then won’t park on them or run security tape to keep vehicles off. Like they do with brick driveways. Like neighbors want put up with that.

Hasn’t happened on my street yet. Everyone parks in their garage, including us.

patfla06 11-29-2023 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2278214)
I would not live here without a pool in my yard. We only pay $135 a month for cleaning and chemicals. Not expensive. The demand for resale pool homes is very large. My home is not on the market and I have had offers.
I am very happy with the crown moulding no carpeting, paver driveway and walkway and our palm trees. I feel my house looks finished. I find the plain cement driveways to be an eyesore.

We had a large pool, hot tub and outdoor kitchen in our Tampa house for
17 years. Now we no longer want any of those things. Too much responsibility
and been there done that!

patfla06 11-29-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pennyt (Post 2278232)
When we looked at homes in TV, we saw so many had not been updated. They looked old and tired. We quickly looked past those and eventually bought a new home that we added things to after the sale. We love our crown molding as it makes the living areas look finished. We put in closet organizer shelving and enclosed our lanai to make a sunroom for additional square footage. Haven't regretted any of that. Each year we do some kind of upgrade to our house to keep it current. Last year we took out all the carpeting and installed hardwood flooring so now all floors are hard surface. We've freshened our landscaping twice over the 12 years we've lived here. Not all the upgrades will increase the price of the house, BUT it will make our house more competitive in the marketplace. (I was a realtor for many years)

I think we are the last people in T.V. that still have and LOVE carpet.

2luke2 11-29-2023 01:57 PM

I would agree with crown molding, different color in every room, flower/beach/etc patterns on everything. Though I would also say that all these are personal preferences for each of us.

However I would disagree with the pool/spa comment on two angles, it's definitely worth it as homes with pools sell and rent for a lot more here. We used ours almost every day, even when we aren't in it we are watching the water falls from inside our offices. We even use the spa during the colder days after a quick heating. So again, I guess it boils down to personal preference. My wife is a chemist and actually likes the challenge to keep the pool perfect haha! So we haven't paid for much in regards to maintenance that we weren't happy to pay for the benefits it affords us.

So like most everything, to each their own, I try not to judge, though we all have our own opinions. The difference between most, is that some just like to try and push theirs on others. ;)

Packer Fan 11-29-2023 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2278186)
In terms of resale value, I don't think any upgrades are worth it because you will not recover the cost. If you are lucky, you will get back half of what you paid. I haven't done a single upgrade to my house. But when I sell it, I will price it correctly, and I think it will sell very quickly because it will be the lowest price in the neighborhood. In hindsight, I wish I had replaced the flooring before I moved in. Also, if you replace the flooring, I recommend using the same flooring throughout the house, and no carpet.

When you buy a house, make sure that it has a 2-car garage and a golf cart garage. That is something that is difficult to upgrade. There are some 3-bedroom houses in my neighborhood that have a 1.5-car garage. Those people are constantly juggling their vehicles.


I agree with same flooring through most of the house - not tile - Vinyl plank. However, the master should be carpet. Nobody likes stepping onto a cold floor. I have 2 rental homes in TV, and allmost all my renters have commented they like the carpet in the master bedroom. Tile is very hard on old knees, but LVP is softer. I would never buy a house with hard floors in the master bedroom. Sorry.

jimjamuser 11-29-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by garykoca427@gmail.com (Post 2278170)
Crown molding, and painted driveways. I like screens on the windows to get fresh air in the house.

I think that you only get FRESH AIR in through the open windows for a few hours after a rain. Other times you are better off with the air circulated through the A/C's filters. The outside air from the close by streets contains CO and CO2 from the noisy gas (non - catalytic convertered, non-mufflered exhaust. So it is NOT "fresh air". And the air often contains pollen.

jimjamuser 11-29-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 2278329)
I agree with same flooring through most of the house - not tile - Vinyl plank. However, the master should be carpet. Nobody likes stepping onto a cold floor. I have 2 rental homes in TV, and allmost all my renters have commented they like the carpet in the master bedroom. Tile is very hard on old knees, but LVP is softer. I would never buy a house with hard floors in the master bedroom. Sorry.

I prefer wearing slippers or sandals to having dirt catching wall to wall rugs in the bedroom. I prefer wood in the main bedroom.

Packer Fan 11-29-2023 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat2015 (Post 2278244)
There’s quite a few buyers that won’t buy a house here in FL that doesn’t have a pool, or at least room for a pool.

I have 2 pools within walking distance of my house that I can meet nice people at. Why anyone has their own in TV is beyond me - you never see anyone in them. The people who claim they are cooler - do you have a chiller? We love the pools in the summer. We didn't have to pay $80K for one and we don't have to pay upkeep.

JSR22 11-29-2023 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 2278343)
I have 2 pools within walking distance of my house that I can meet nice people at. Why anyone has their own in TV is beyond me - you never see anyone in them. The people who claim they are cooler - do you have a chiller? We love the pools in the summer. We didn't have to pay $80K for one and we don't have to pay upkeep.

I would not live here without a pool. Our pool is used daily. There is nothing like jumping into the pool in the morning and floating n the pool in the evening looking up at the stars. Worth every dollar we paid.

jimjamuser 11-29-2023 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 2278343)
I have 2 pools within walking distance of my house that I can meet nice people at. Why anyone has their own in TV is beyond me - you never see anyone in them. The people who claim they are cooler - do you have a chiller? We love the pools in the summer. We didn't have to pay $80K for one and we don't have to pay upkeep.

I agree an individual pool is like throwing money away.

Topspinmo 11-29-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy (Post 2278307)
Hasn’t happened on my street yet. Everyone parks in their garage, including us.

I surprised they can get vehicle in garage. Most garages full of junk and vehicles has to park in driveway and street. ;)

Topspinmo 11-29-2023 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 2278315)
I think we are the last people in T.V. that still have and LOVE carpet.

I like carpet cause easy to walk on and muffles noise.

jebartle 11-29-2023 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2278214)
I would not live here without a pool in my yard. We only pay $135 a month for cleaning and chemicals. Not expensive. The demand for resale pool homes is very large. My home is not on the market and I have had offers.
I am very happy with the crown moulding no carpeting, paver driveway and walkway and our palm trees. I feel my house looks finished. I find the plain cement driveways to be an eyesore.

Different strokes for different folks, that's what makes the world go round. Regarding pools, I'm sure we have all had pools in our past, i love my pool peeps, and two so close, warm water in winter, cool in summer and maintenance (kinda, not counting VCDD) free.

asianthree 11-29-2023 06:38 PM

I live within 5 minutes of 5 pools, yet have our own. Like the privacy, read a book without listening to multiple conversations by those in person, and on their phones. I know chemical balance is perfect, and no worries of someones, perfume, lotion, sunscreen, and so on.

qywc3bbb 11-29-2023 08:50 PM

Definitely agree with swimming pools. I see all these swimming pools in private homes and nobody is using them! What a waste of money. With all the neighborhood pools available and with the little time one spends at them…not worth it!

Chi-Town 11-29-2023 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by qywc3bbb (Post 2278402)
Definitely agree with swimming pools. I see all these swimming pools in private homes and nobody is using them! What a waste of money. With all the neighborhood pools available and with the little time one spends at them…not worth it!

Private water view.

qywc3bbb 11-29-2023 09:01 PM

Painted driveways need to be clear coated every other year to remain fresh otherwise they will fade. I love mine

Tom1916 11-29-2023 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2278303)
I agree about the crown molding. It not only screams "old folks live here" but, to me, also makes the rooms appear smaller and the ceilings not as high.

Regarding the plain concrete driveways......I much prefer pavers which appear "richer" to me than painted driveways. But.....that is just my opinion.

Who do you think buys homes in the Villages? OLD PEOPLE !!!:22yikes:

asianthree 11-29-2023 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom1916 (Post 2278412)
Who do you think buys homes in the Villages? OLD PEOPLE !!!:22yikes:

Tell that to the 28 and 32yo that bought one of our houses. Two of our own will be buying soon mid forties.

HandyGrandpap 11-29-2023 10:28 PM

what about wallPaper?? how about a nice floral design?

skippy05 11-30-2023 06:07 AM

Avoid buying solar tube skylights. All give off a bluish tinted light that looks like a Motel 6 parking lot.

GizmoWhiskers 11-30-2023 06:41 AM

Just a squirrel observation, but based on the 5 pages so far to this thread could it be deduced that the averages of posters claiming to have and prefer private pools just might run parallel with threads on outsiders using T V pools.

I wonder if the same amount of posters who say "who cares if people without visitor passes use the pools in T V" equals the same number of posters indicating private home pools are much better than T V pools?

If memory serves me in most cases original purchasers of home pools do not recoop that entire cost. I suppose though, T V is an anomoly when it comes to the value of everything; pools, painted driveways, rock walls included.

BrianL99 11-30-2023 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HandyGrandpap (Post 2278415)
what about wallPaper?? how about a nice floral design?

Goes well with Chintz furniture and a grandfather clock.

BrianL99 11-30-2023 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2278433)
Just a squirrel observation, but based on the 5 pages so far to this thread could it be deduced that the averages of posters claiming to have and prefer private pools just might run parallel with threads on outsiders using T V pools.

...

If memory serves me in most cases original purchasers of home pools do not recoop that entire cost. I suppose though, T V is an anomoly when it comes to the value of everything; pools, painted driveways, rock walls included.

I've had a pool in 2 of my Florida homes ... never again! Biggest PITA on earth. I wouldn't buy a home with a pool again, if it was the only house available in the USA.

The FL market has been moving away from private pools for years, but as you noted TV is an anomaly when it comes to most everything. Based on the #'s I've heard for pool construction costs in TV, I don't think there's any way folks are going to get their money back on that investment.

JSR22 11-30-2023 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2278451)
I've had a pool in 2 of my Florida homes ... never again! Biggest PITA on earth. I wouldn't buy a home with a pool again, if it was the only house available in the USA.

The FL market has been moving away from private pools for years, but as you noted TV is an anomaly when it comes to most everything. Based on the #'s I've heard for pool construction costs in TV, I don't think there's any way folks are going to get their money back on that investment.

Not looking to get money back on my pool. We enjoy the pool daily and would do it again.

Pat2015 11-30-2023 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by qywc3bbb (Post 2278402)
Definitely agree with swimming pools. I see all these swimming pools in private homes and nobody is using them! What a waste of money. With all the neighborhood pools available and with the little time one spends at them…not worth it!

Not worth it to you to have a pool, but there are many buyers who will only buy a house that has one, or has room for one. Personal preference.

Fastskiguy 11-30-2023 07:56 AM

I could see having a pool if I was into swimming. It's convenient and you know who has been peeing in it.

Joe

ThirdOfFive 11-30-2023 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 2278315)
I think we are the last people in T.V. that still have and LOVE carpet.

There is a very good reason that so many homes in TV have non-carpeted floors. Older folks sometimes suffer from urinary incontinence and there is nothing like a nice fluffy carpet for absorbing and holding odors. We've gone to more than one estate sale where the urine smell in the common rooms was pretty noticeable.

Were I a new buyer here, I'd be VERY leery about buying a resale that has carpeting. Even if it looks and smells OK all that may mean is that the carpets had been cleaned before it was put on the market. A month or two later could reveal some very unpleasant surprises to the new owner.

shut the front door 11-30-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2278346)
I would not live here without a pool. Our pool is used daily. There is nothing like jumping into the pool in the morning and floating n the pool in the evening looking up at the stars. Worth every dollar we paid.

Exactly. Some don't understand that a pool underneath a birdcage does stay cooler than the neighborhood pools that are not. I went to a neighborhood pool 1 time in the last 10 years. Within a half hour, I'd been stung by a wasp and had to watch a 300 pounder with a depends under a skimpy bathing suit jump in. I'll pass. My pool is private and I can watch football on TV while floating on my actual raft with a cold beer.

coconutmama 11-30-2023 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2278377)
I live within 5 minutes of 5 pools, yet have our own. Like the privacy, read a book without listening to multiple conversations by those in person, and on their phones. I know chemical balance is perfect, and no worries of someones, perfume, lotion, sunscreen, and so on.

Same for us. During the height of Covid, & the rec pools were closed, we still had ours to use.

Plus I love reading the paper or a book & enjoying the sound of the waterfall.

When we entertain at night everyone comments on the pool’s colored lights & soothing sounds.

During the summer, after golf or gardening, nothing beats jumping into our own pool


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