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golfing eagles 11-02-2022 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cynjim (Post 2153580)
your title says it all....bully She has compassion but it seems you don't. They were using a little water from a hose...they didn't hurt anyone.

So, in other words, their criminal trespassing was a "victimless" crime, so it's OK?

Rainger99 11-02-2022 06:42 AM

We should consider designating a single Village for those people who want to help feed and help the homeless and mentally ill.

You couldn’t live there unless you agreed to assist the homeless whenever they stopped by so it would have to be a new Village. It would be part of the deed restrictions.

We could call it Utopia and it could be advertised as the place for homeless to go looking for handouts.

DeeCee Dubya 11-02-2022 06:51 AM

Great analogy.

ThirdOfFive 11-02-2022 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2153583)
Sorry, but what I think is really sad are those that want to make a nice, comfy home for them right here in "River City"-----which would give us a much bigger problem than "pool" (Robert Preston, The Music Man)

It's no different than the conclusion of various threads on theft here----make it difficult for the thief and they'll find an easier target. Let's not make The Villages and easy target.

Spot on.

Back before we moved here, we lived in a town in Minnesota of about 30,000 people about an hour's drive from Minneapolis - St. Paul. There were homeless in our town; not many, but they were there. We showed compassion: churches took turns cooking so that there was one free, healthy meal provided per day, usually at about 5:00 PM. A local athletic facility allowed them to use the showers at certain designated times. They could use the food shelves. Churches also arranged for clothing donations to be given to them. Reports were that some of them utilized a couple of abandoned buildings for shelter; the law mostly looked the other way. It made sense. Minnesota isn't bad during the summer months but there is 5-6 months of winter weather up there and it can get pretty rough living outside.

We began noticing, however, that the numbers of people at the free meals were increasing. Panhandling started occurring, and some of the panhandlers were quite verbally aggressive about it. Shoplifting, and theft (including break-ins) were increasing. There were squabbles among the homeless as well, one of them knifing another over some dispute or other. Word had it that the reputation for compassion shown to the homeless in our little town had spread to other towns--homeless people have phones too, and contrary to some belief they DO travel. It was the "Portland effect" in miniature. We moved before anything concrete was done about it so I have no idea what the situation is there today.

This is what "compassion" for the homeless gets you. I've seen it firsthand and I definitely don't want it here in TV.

jimkerr 11-02-2022 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LAFwUs (Post 2153500)
what dog park OP?
can you post the pics here?

We are seeing plenty of them down on the south end near the turnpike.

Previous TOTV thread regarding the small "encampment" that was discovered near Chitty Chatty got some traction and several other resident reports, before it was (intentionally) derailed over semantics of what constitutes an "encampment".
Sheriffs office & Community Watch promised immediate action, if it was reported to them.
**In fact, pass down instruction was specifically to contact Community Watch 24/7 #number, due to varying jurisdictional issues.
If you feel they were in fact homeless utilizing facilities here (and not possibly, workers, landscapers, etc as mentioned), then I'd strongly suggest you follow up on the lack of interest/response with the CW head staff, because that is not how its is to be handled - per statements by CW themselves.

Rupert. Yes, I’ll be following up with the rec dept.

jimkerr 11-02-2022 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cynjim (Post 2153579)
Not sure where the compassion has gone from TV anymore but I am sure if they had donated blood to a blood bank to receive a meal the people that are complaining about them would would take their blood if they needed it and yet they are worried about them taking a little water from a hose...sad

What’s your address and phone number? I’ll send them to your home.

Caymus 11-02-2022 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2153595)

This is what "compassion" for the homeless gets you. I've seen it firsthand and I definitely don't want it here in TV.

We call it being a "sucker".

asianthree 11-02-2022 07:15 AM

Today’s entertainment…..bash other posters for their thoughts, compassion, or ugly comments to others:rant-rave:

golfing eagles 11-02-2022 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2153607)
Today’s entertainment…..bash other posters for their thoughts, compassion, or ugly comments to others:rant-rave:

Not just today..........:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

ThirdOfFive 11-02-2022 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2153606)
We call it being a "sucker".

In so many words.

Happens a lot when emotion triumphs over reason.

Rickanvic 11-02-2022 07:37 AM

I worked at an office in an area of St. Petersburg that was over run with homeless. They would come to our office after hours. We would come to work to find urine and feces on the walkway around the building. We would find used napkins from restroom use. As employees who chose to go to work daily, it wasn't fair to us to have to clean up dirty, bloody used napkins, not to mention the actual product. We called 911 on multiple occasions due to someone still there when we arrived because they were unresponsive. Before blasting people who are paying a great deal of money for 'that water hose" go deal with the outcome. From what I saw 99% of the people on our sidewalk didn't want to get off the streets.

Dantes 11-02-2022 07:38 AM

Community Watch employees do not have police powers

Marine1974 11-02-2022 07:40 AM

Where do you expect them to go unless your willing to pay more taxes to feed , shelter and provide
medical . It’s only going to get worse . No compassion shown here by the OP .

rickaslin 11-02-2022 07:49 AM

Compassion
 
Please post your address so if seen we can send them to your house for a quick shower with soap! No blood just soap !

ron32162 11-02-2022 07:54 AM

Why would you think community watch would assist people showering?


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