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Walter123 03-15-2016 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1199067)
Make sure you ask them to stand where you can get your best light and not to move so the pictures aren't blurred.

As I said, taking a picture is unlikely in most cases so stop being silly. Personally, I rarely carry my cell phone because I'm not that important. That would probably be one of the things they steal. LOL!

The upload app I mentioned has other uses though.

flyerguy 03-15-2016 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1199067)
Make sure you ask them to stand where you can get your best light and not to move so the pictures aren't blurred.

Now that's Funny. :a040:

flyerguy 03-15-2016 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1198792)
I know how I would feel if I walked in on a burglar, violated, but I am not certain how I would react?

This is a very honest answer. To many boast how easily they can pull the trigger and take down another human. Also, can you live with the effect it's gonna have on your life. Many of us have had to shoot an enemy(s) on the battle field, even though it is drilled into your head, "it's them or you" the after effects linger for a life time.

I'm not condoning or condemning weapon's in the home or on your person, just remember to get proper training and make sure you take refresher courses, believe me, you will become very stale if not. Also remember when you discharge your weapon in your home a round can go through a wall or window and hit your neighbor. Just be careful and know what your getting into.

joldnol 03-15-2016 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by VILLAGE ALARM (Post 1198862)
They were lucky the Burglars ran off. A professionally installed Alarm System would have prevented that from happening as well as protecting them while they are home. A good perimeter system will warn you before they get in and give you the jump on them.

that, or get a dog.........

outlaw 03-15-2016 03:32 PM

It's more than just about losing "stuff". Talk to people that have been burglarized, especially if they encountered the burglars. Some people can never get over it. It is a traumatic experience. Some people never again feel safe in that particular house, and end up moving. Others continue on, but may have trouble feeling comfortable/safe in their home. The after effects can last for years.

joldnol 03-15-2016 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1199135)
It's more than just about losing "stuff". Talk to people that have been burglarized, especially if they encountered the burglars. Some people can never get over it. It is a traumatic experience. Some people never again feel safe in that particular house, and end up moving. Others continue on, but may have trouble feeling comfortable/safe in their home. The after effects can last for years.

yeah it's a pretty awful feeling. I got wiped out two months after finishing college. Lost all of my meager possessions and did not have renters insurance. I felt very violated knowing a stranger had gone through everything I owned.

graciegirl 03-15-2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 1199140)
yeah it's a pretty awful feeling. I got wiped out two months after finishing college. Lost all of my meager possessions and did not have renters insurance. I felt very violated knowing a stranger had gone through everything I owned.



I understood the point that my husband was making. At that time we would have felt differently than now. Now it is all just stuff. Things change. Cancer, deaths, huge events have happened to us since we were very young.

Sandtrap328 03-15-2016 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1199135)
It's more than just about losing "stuff". Talk to people that have been burglarized, especially if they encountered the burglars. Some people can never get over it. It is a traumatic experience. Some people never again feel safe in that particular house, and end up moving. Others continue on, but may have trouble feeling comfortable/safe in their home. The after effects can last for years.

You are right. That is Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which can occur after a battlefield experience, a burglary or robbery, a house fire, etc.

However, if you walked into your house and saw a burglar, the best thing to do is run back outside and call the police.

IF you were carrying your handgun and pumped 9 rounds into his "10" ring effectively neutralizing him forever - just imagine the PTSD from that event. Chances are you would move from that house - and would have to disclose it to the realty agent.

Best advice - get a professionally installed alarm system and use it!

Jima64 03-15-2016 04:35 PM

Know how it feels. Woke to someone standing next to my bed gong through my wallet, years ago in San Francisco. To this day I wake up very startled at the slightest sound.

outlaw 03-15-2016 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1199159)
You are right. That is Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which can occur after a battlefield experience, a burglary or robbery, a house fire, etc.

However, if you walked into your house and saw a burglar, the best thing to do is run back outside and call the police.

IF you were carrying your handgun and pumped 9 rounds into his "10" ring effectively neutralizing him forever - just imagine the PTSD from that event. Chances are you would move from that house - and would have to disclose it to the realty agent.

Best advice - get a professionally installed alarm system and use it!

Good point. I would hate to hurt my resale value. Not to mention the cost of bullets.

Linda1021 03-15-2016 05:42 PM

Do people have home alarm systems in their homes?

graciegirl 03-15-2016 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Linda1021 (Post 1199193)
Do people have home alarm systems in their homes?



Yes. And many of us are camera'd up too.

justjim 03-15-2016 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1198792)
In Tennessee you can shoot an intruder in your home. Perhaps the same rule applies in Florida. I know how I would feel if I walked in on a burglar, violated, but I am not certain how I would react?

Do we know what this homeowner did or did not do?

"Iam not certain how I would react" is a true and honest answer to walking in on a couple of burglars. Some of the posts I have read in this thread are ridiculous. Pulling out your gun (if your carrying) and start shooting is one of them. The truth is we can say "this and that" but you really don't know what you would do. In this instance, the burglars ran out the door. Nobody was hurt---all is well.

Chatbrat 03-15-2016 06:53 PM

All I can tell you is what happened to us ,when we were living on our boat- @ marina in the vicinity of Jupiter, a young man boarded our boat from the water, he was attempting to climb on our sun deck from the ladder that was on our swim platform- this was @ 4 AM- the laser sight on my revolver caught his attention-I told him if he decided to get on the deck, "I will kill you"- I was screaming for other boat owners to call 911-the Martin County deputy-told the young man-he was very lucky-that he did not die.

graciegirl 03-15-2016 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1199213)
All I can tell you is what happened to us ,when we were living on our boat- @ marina in the vicinity of Jupiter, a young man boarded our boat from the water, he was attempting to climb on our sun deck from the ladder that was on our swim platform- this was @ 4 AM- the laser sight on my revolver caught his attention-I told him if he decided to get on the deck, "I will kill you"- I was screaming for other boat owners to call 911-the Martin County deputy-told the young man-he was very lucky-that he did not die.



I do not think that you will have much chance of pointing your gun at any burglars here... I guess it could happen.


You never know. Last year we had a bunch of breakins, but the LEO's caught most of them. This year I have heard of two. Last year only one set of homeowners was home. And thieves didn't wake them.


No need to get all excited....at this point. Don't borrow trouble.

triton18 03-15-2016 08:36 PM

I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Think about it.

graciegirl 03-15-2016 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by triton18 (Post 1199256)
I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Think about it.



I would certainly think about it if we lived in some nasty crime ridden place. Good grief.

CFrance 03-15-2016 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by joldnol (Post 1199121)
that, or get a dog.........

Not so sure. From what I have read, your savvy burglar caries some meat or other form of tasty treat to throw to the dog after they break in.

goodtimesintv 03-15-2016 10:52 PM

Shocking to see how naive people here seem to be concerned only about break-ins to steal material possessions/money.

Duhhhhh....there are vicious attackers that break in to rape and beat/stab victims to a pulp, too! That causes lifelong mental trauma, unlike material things that can be replaced and for which we have insurance.

manaboutown 03-15-2016 10:58 PM

A man I knew, a former member of the French Resistance, while awaiting his boat's turn to go through the Panama Canal, was confronted by two pirates off Colombia attempting to board his boat. He blew them away with a shotgun. Kudos to him!

RickeyD 03-16-2016 04:38 AM

Homeowner walks in on 2 burglars
 
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1199284)
A man I knew, a former member of the French Resistance, while awaiting his boat's turn to go through the Panama Canal, was confronted by two pirates off Colombia attempting to board his boat. He blew them away with a shotgun. Kudos to him!


Colombian Nazi pirates ?

graciegirl 03-16-2016 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by goodtimesintv (Post 1199281)
Shocking to see how naive people here seem to be concerned only about break-ins to steal material possessions/money.

Duhhhhh....there are vicious attackers that break in to rape and beat/stab victims to a pulp, too! That causes lifelong mental trauma, unlike material things that can be replaced and for which we have insurance.



But that has not happened here. That has not happened here. That has not happened here.

There was a woman whose purse was stolen outside of Target a couple of years ago. The two thugs pushed her to the ground and she was hurt. The three combined county law enforcements worked together and traced the couple to Orlando from surveillance footage. They have been arrested and incarcerated.


One woman was murdered by her daughters acquaintance and it was about drugs. ONE MURDER here. There have been many suicides. And many domestic violence situations. ONE murder.

I am not saying that bad things can't happen or won't happen here. It is always wise to be very careful and to protect yourself and to watch around you. But to encourage fear when there is not good reason at this time is not helpful. We have a low crime rate here. We have on their toes law enforcement who work very hard to protect us. This could change at any time. There were many break ins last year at this time. And most of those people were caught. It is wise to have your home protected. But to get your bowels in an uproar thinking about all the bad stuff that could or can happen is not good.

We have many, many, many armed homeowners who know how to use a gun and when to use a gun and that is probably adding to the overall deterrent to criminals entering homes.

dirtbanker 03-16-2016 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1199310)
But that has not happened here. That has not happened here. That has not happened here.

Was there not a thread on here about an intruder that raped a woman (in the Villages) about a year and a half ago? Some suspected her yard guy?
Maybe my memory is going...

I do have a suggestion if you shoot an intruded (or anyone else for that matter); Kill them! It is less confusing for the police to understand one story as opposed to a "he said - she said" story, and you will definitely be going down to the station for some serious conversation when you shoot someone (in your house or not, eminent danger or not)). So if you don't want to kill, don't shoot!

graciegirl 03-16-2016 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dirtbanker (Post 1199323)
Was there not a thread on here about an intruder that raped a woman (in the Villages) about a year and a half ago? Some suspected her yard guy?
Maybe my memory is going...

I do have a suggestion if you shoot an intruded (or anyone else for that matter); Kill them! It is less confusing for the police to understand one story as opposed to a "he said - she said" story, and you will definitely be going down to the station for some serious conversation when you shoot someone (in your house or not, eminent danger or not)). So if you don't want to kill, don't shoot!



I remember what you are thinking...vaguely. This woman ended up in the hospital but whether she fell or was harmed by someone was disputed a great deal. I think I remember repeated alcohol abuse being mentioned.


She had friends who believed her and folks who didn't. I don't know what happened but I will try to find that thread and post it if it isn't closed....which is likely.

I found a thread about this. Type in Latest in assault in Duval in search, above. The thread is closed.

outlaw 03-16-2016 07:17 AM

SMH. Head in sand.

graciegirl 03-16-2016 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1199329)
SMH. Head in sand.


Are you shaking your head about ME? Do you think I have my head in the sand? I have lived here for nine years now.


I think we bring with us feelings of fear or security from where we grew up. We spent our lives in an area that was almost as safe as this one is. Some people grow up with lots of crime around them.


Some people just like to talk about guns and using them. Somewhere between the way that you look at things and I look at things is probably realistic.



You chose "outlaw" for a screen name. Nuff said.


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