Has never worked out

Me too
 

I too purchased a Hyundai Tucson after test driving almost every small SUV when deciding what to purchase for our Florida vehicle. I absolutely love this car! It is the perfect size, fun to drive, and has more creature comforts than my other vehicles that cost more then 3x as much. I had an awesome purchase experience from the Hyundai dealer in Claremont and they don’t have any of the nonsense dealer fees that the Jenkins Jokers try to get away with. Plus you get free annual maintenance (oil change only once per year or 10,000 miles). I would recommend that you add this vehicle and this dealership to you list for consideration.

We're in the same boat, shopping for a new car, Car dealers are the worst... always felt like we get a bad deal.... If anybody knows an honest dealer around the area , please let us know.

We have had two Subaru Foresters and have had no maintenance problems at all. They do hold their value. The one we got in 2020 came with approximately 1,000 pages of instruction. It was a bit daunting but we particularly like that the Subaru has very high safety ratings.

You've captured my curiosity...what has never worked out?

What has never worked out? Life? Love? Buying lottery tickets?

I looked at the HOnda myself felt it was too big and a bit overpriced thou they seem to keep there value......2 people I know had a Ford Escape and they love them so that is what I went with I also bought a demo car with 1889 miles on it a 2022 felt it was a much better savings.........

You Should Also Consider Toyota
 

Paying 10 dollars for the dealer's actual cost is a good way to waste 10 dollars.

A dealer invoice is not accurate and really has no prediction of what the dealer will sell an individual vehicle for.

Totally agree, in fact I read somewhere where one of the big 3 is looking at a dealer less sales program where you buy direct from the manufacturer. I think it might have been Ford.

I'm sure it's a wonderful car, but for some reason up here in Minnesota they are "the" car to steal. Apparently they have some ignition system that can be overridden by using a USB port which will allow anyone to steal them in seconds. There are youtube postings showing how to do it. In Mpls alone 16,000 cars were stolen last year, the vast majority were Hyundai's, and Kia's. Haven't hear if they have fixed that or not.

NOT a Dealer's Invoice
 

I have had 3 Subaru's. The first was a pre-own Forester Touring 2017 and loved the luxury of it. I now have an Outback Touring and am just as happy. That one I bought from Gainesville. I felt they were very up front and honest. Gave me $1000 off sticker and the previous Subaru ownerships gave me $500/vehicle when I contacted the company to ask about loyalty benefits. We chose Subaru because of the safety rating.

You really have a knack for drawing the short straw. My wife and I have had nine Subarus in a row and have never experienced a major repair.

Consumer Reports is not what it use it to be.

I visited their headquarters in NY many years ago when they were more trusty worth, not so trust worthy anymore as they caved to Corporate pressure.

I've bought several things of late they highly recommended and it turned out to be junk.

So I wouldn't base my whole decision on their input.

Google Subaru head gasket problems, then google Subaru oil consumption problems, then google Subaru CVT problems. After that go on Youtube and search Subaru problems. Like my post says, they have great marketing.

Consumer Reports Not Reliable???
 

Get a Volvo XC60 or 90. Best car by far.
Our XC 60 Lux. is 14 years old, only ever had new tires and servicing.
Been all over UK and Europe, and still pristine and got the comfort and all the power any driver needs.

Avoid cars that have a CVT transmission.

So here's what you ran into. It's a little complicated, but I'll try to make my explanation simple.

It happens with all manufacturers, but some are worse than others. Nissan being one of them.

On March 1st the Manufacturer tells its dealers in a Zone: "If you sell 300 new xyz models in the next 90 days (0r however many days), we'll give you $1000, retroactive to the first car sold after March 1.

In order to be competitive, the Dealer then starts selling xyz model, discounting them an extra $500. So he's therefore, planning to making an extra $500 when he gets his retroactive payments in 90 days.

So on the 85th day, if he's only sold 275 xyz models ... he's in trouble. He's not going to get his $300,000 retroactive bonus.

If you show up at that Dealership between the 85th day & the 90th day, he's going to give you the deal of a lifetime, because he has $300,000 at risk. He NEEDS to sell 25 more xyz's.

Just as an aside, when the Dealer gets into that situation, what's he going to do on the 89th day? He's going to call his friends, previous customers and rental companies and offer to sell them vehicles at a loss, to get to #300. Better to lose $10,000 - $20,000 on 4 or 5 cars, than lose $300,000.

They don't have the resources to review as many products as you would think. Most of their reviews come from the public which is a flawed process.

I can get the same reviews from Google, Yelp and the hundreds of other product review sites.

They didn't always allow public reviews as this was before the even had a website or most folks had a computer. They were truly just a magazine.

Their testing headquarters is not very big and they have limited personal. With no ad money and just trying to rely on subscriptions it's a very small operation.

Their last most reliable car report was mainly EV cars which I find odd seeing how some of these EV models are only a year or 2 old.

The last item I bought was some headphones they gave good ratings that turned out to be far inferior to so many other models in the same price range.

They just don't have the ability to be a full pledge review site anymore because of the corporate competition.

Like I said early I wouldn't base my whole car buying decision on CR solely.

You are 100% right. Consumer Reports runs an entirely different business model, than they had pre-Internet. They do minimal testing on their own and the do monitor, analyze and use a myriad of other sources to produce their so-called "Recommendations".

You can no longer trust anything they produce.

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Had a Forrester because I lived in Chicago, and I could get around easy in 18 inches of snow. Moved here and purchased a Lexus Hybrid, much smaller and 44 MPG. Love it.