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mntlblok 07-28-2023 07:06 AM
Finance kickback anecdote
 
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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2239296)
The dealers really don't like cash buyers as they get a kick-back from the financial institutions that they use for the loans. A friend of mine that sells Cadillacs told me not to mention I'm paying cash until the final price is signed, a few times over the years they asked me in advance so I simply told them 20% down and I'll finance and then after the deal was done I just wrote out a check for the entire amount which they didn't want to accept but they did.

I hate buying cars also so I do some research and have a final figure in mind, I make them an offer for $200 less than I'm willing to pay out the door and tell them you have 15 minutes or I'm walking, they always come back for more so that's when I give them the other $200. I only had to walk out one time over the years.
Had no idea about such things but somehow ran into a situation at the end of a quarter and the dealership apparently needed to sell just "a little bit more" for the deal to "kick in" at the end of that month. Drove a fair distance for this "too good to be true" offer. Even got them to explain to me why it was being offered. Turned out that I did have to finance it and make one payment before paying it off. :-) For this naive, pitiful excuse for a "businessman", it was quite the eye opener.

phylt 07-28-2023 07:08 AM
Our next car, within the next few months, will be a Tesla. BTW they are building a Tesla store/service in Clermont. Ordering a new Tesla - custom order or new in stock (or a certified used one at Tesla) is a 5 minute online task. No haggling, one price, no pressure. Pick up the car - NO hassling from a finance guy or upsell. The way of the future. Without a doubt, 'car dealerships' are on their way out. I would foresee within 10 years, that the vast majority of car sales will be the Tesla model.

mntlblok 07-28-2023 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint (Post 2239427)
My son move to CO 2 years ago. When we go to visit him it seems like everyone out there has a Subaru (and a dog). I asked him that when you move to CO is that standard issue items the state makes you get. I don't have a Subaru but have driven Honda Accords all my life and some went 300,000 + miles before I sold them.
Are they still all station wagons? :-)

mntlblok 07-28-2023 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2239436)
I could be wrong, but it sounds like bad tires. I once bought a new vehicle that I thought was too noisy. But, when I replaced the tires with Michelins, it was a tremendous improvement.

Slightly off topic, but it is legal for a dealer to replace the tires on a new vehicle before selling it. Now, when I test drive a vehicle, I take a photo of the tires to ensure that the dealer doesn't switch them. Also, I look at the Federal DOT number on the tires. The last 4 digits of the number indicate the week and year that they were made. So, "1122" would mean that the tire was made in the 11th week of 2022.
Fascinating. And, yet, you remain up-front and honest with the dealership.

retiredguy123 07-28-2023 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2239468)
Fascinating. And, yet, you remain up-front and honest with the dealership.
Yes. To me, the important thing is to know the fair value of the vehicle, make a firm "take-it-or-leave-it" offer to the dealer, and convince the dealer that it is the only offer they are going to get.

Warcats 07-28-2023 07:32 AM
Suvs
 
The Subaru is the better choice. Superior in many ways. On You Tube you will see reviewers praising the Subaru overwhelmingly. It is the top in its class.

JRcorvette 07-28-2023 07:51 AM
Actually the Toyota RAV4 is the best choice. Next I would go with the Subaru and Honda last. We have owned all three.

DiviAruba 07-28-2023 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbb (Post 2239262)
I've owned both, go with the Honda. Subarus have great marketing but very, very, very, bad maintenance issues. I have had two head gaskets go out, $4,200 each and one transmission module $2,200. My Honda's....lets see, gas and tires, that's about it. Hondas last forever, and they ride really well.
I totally agree. Love my CR-V. My sister has a Subaru that has been nothing but problems. The engine in her car had a recall that they never told her about. Luckily she was told about it by her mechanic. Got the new engine, with a hassle, and just days before the recall was expiring.

retiredguy123 07-28-2023 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2239489)
Actually the Toyota RAV4 is the best choice. Next I would go with the Subaru and Honda last. We have owned all three.
I have a Ford Escape, which has been an excellent vehicle and was less expensive than Honda, Toyota, or Subaru.

kendi 07-28-2023 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbb (Post 2239262)
I've owned both, go with the Honda. Subarus have great marketing but very, very, very, bad maintenance issues. I have had two head gaskets go out, $4,200 each and one transmission module $2,200. My Honda's....lets see, gas and tires, that's about it. Hondas last forever, and they ride really well.
Both husband and I have had outback’s since 2015. Prior to that I had a Forester. Never had any problems with any of them. Before purchasing I did a lot of homework cause I needed a car to travel for work in all kinds of weather. Also asked my trusty mechanic about reliability and he gave a very positive review of them. We’ve only used the Subaru dealer local to TV for oil change when we aren’t up north for the lifetime free ones we get. Was happy with them for this but obviously can’t comment on buying experience.

Marsha11 07-28-2023 09:31 AM
Has never worked out

Lisanp@aol.com 07-28-2023 09:47 AM
Me too
 
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Originally Posted by Donaz1 (Post 2239428)
I did test drive both but ended up buying a Hyundai Tucson Limited from the Clermont dealership.You pay MSRP plus taxes and some small options. It is a beautiful car with so many advanced features. However, I will probably end up trading within a year or two unless it starts growing on me. Lots of tech to learn..
I too purchased a Hyundai Tucson after test driving almost every small SUV when deciding what to purchase for our Florida vehicle. I absolutely love this car! It is the perfect size, fun to drive, and has more creature comforts than my other vehicles that cost more then 3x as much. I had an awesome purchase experience from the Hyundai dealer in Claremont and they don’t have any of the nonsense dealer fees that the Jenkins Jokers try to get away with. Plus you get free annual maintenance (oil change only once per year or 10,000 miles). I would recommend that you add this vehicle and this dealership to you list for consideration.

MrFlorida 07-28-2023 09:50 AM
We're in the same boat, shopping for a new car, Car dealers are the worst... always felt like we get a bad deal.... If anybody knows an honest dealer around the area , please let us know.

jojo 07-28-2023 10:09 AM
We have had two Subaru Foresters and have had no maintenance problems at all. They do hold their value. The one we got in 2020 came with approximately 1,000 pages of instruction. It was a bit daunting but we particularly like that the Subaru has very high safety ratings.

Carla B 07-28-2023 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Marsha11 (Post 2239541)
Has never worked out
You've captured my curiosity...what has never worked out?


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