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Paul1934 03-16-2020 07:32 AM

Remember fondly and clearly the days when as a child I was ill and being moved from the bedroom to a couch in the “Sunroom” to bake out the whatever. Felt great and along with an open window in the bedroom eased the discomfort and hastened my recovery.
I also automatically make my pot of chicken soup at the first sign of a cold, etc, “It couldn’t hurt...”

golfing eagles 03-16-2020 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1728249)
Not every medical professional is a Doctor. No one said the Spanish Flu was cured by sunlight but many of those who received more sunlight exposure did recover while many who did not died. Your saying sunlight does not help denies the proven medical science that flu and other corona viruses do dissipate as temps warm with more sunshine. You don't like the guy, fine. but he does quote actual fact.

Sorry, but that argument is flawed. Consider this---those who were ABLE to get out in the sunlight were probably not as ill as those that COULD NOT get outside, therefore the "sunshine cohort" was already pre-selected to have less severe illness and more likely to survive
Also, the fact that seasonal flu goes away with warmer temperature is exactly that---warmer temperatures, NOT direct exposure to sunlight. In our colder climates, people tend to be huddled indoors during winter---once the temperature goes up, people are out and about---kind of a "social distancing"
But I will be happy to read any article in a legitimate medical journal that concludes direct sunlight prevents/mitigates/cures coronavirus.

Tnbrewer 03-16-2020 08:02 AM

Thank you it makes sense to me. 👍

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-16-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul1934 (Post 1728264)
Remember fondly and clearly the days when as a child I was ill and being moved from the bedroom to a couch in the “Sunroom” to bake out the whatever. Felt great and along with an open window in the bedroom eased the discomfort and hastened my recovery.
I also automatically make my pot of chicken soup at the first sign of a cold, etc, “It couldn’t hurt...”

Yes fresh air, being outside instead of inside in stuffy rooms without sufficient ventilation and no HEPA filters (this was 1918 afterall) to filter out bacteria and germs, mostly in cooler climates where oppressive stagnant humidity can actually grow bacteria rather than treat it...

Fresh air was a good way to prevent a compromised immune system (caused by Spanish Flu) to create a perfect petri dish to grow a lethal stew in the body. It wasn't the sun. This was effective even on cloudy days.

If you've ever studied the history of tuberculosis or the history of the Gaylord Hospital Sanatorium, founded in 1902, this would've been one of those bits of info you would have remembered throughout life. Sunlight also tends to brighten the spirit, the mind, and reduce seasonal depression, which is common in the northern states.

So if you have someone who is deathly ill - and probably feeling horrible emotionally, and put them into fresh air with sunlight, they're likely to breathe better from the fresh air, and feel better emotionally from being outside of dingy dark stuffy rooms.

Also the vitamin D from sunlight only is needed around a half hour 3-4 days a week. Healthy people get that just by walking around in good weather. Unless you test for vitaminD deficiency, you don't need more.

The "studies" from 1918 did not show that patients were even tested for vitamin D deficiency. None of them had rickets so they definitely didn't suffer from *severe* deficiency (since that's what rickets is).

gidget72 03-16-2020 08:53 AM

Thank you for all this information I truly appreciate you posting this..

haysus7 03-16-2020 08:57 AM

Thank you for posting

captdot 03-16-2020 01:03 PM

"My mother would scold us to 'go outside and get the house stink of ya'"

My Mom used to say that too. To this day I can hear her say just like this: "Go out and blow the stink offa ya". :-)

Rapscallion St Croix 03-16-2020 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by captdot (Post 1728448)
"My mother would scold us to 'go outside and get the house stink of ya'"

My Mom used to say that too. To this day I can hear her say just like this: "Go out and blow the stink offa ya". :-)

My mom used to tell me to "Go outside and pick me a switch."

ColdNoMore 03-16-2020 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HimandMe (Post 1727934)
Snip>>Putting infected patients out in the sun may have helped because it inactivates the influenza virus.<<<Snip

One only has to read this, to know that...Hobday is a total quack. :oops:

Not that believing lies and unproved science doesn't still happen, even in this day and age...because it most certainly does.
:ohdear:

Aloha1 03-16-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1728266)
Sorry, but that argument is flawed. Consider this---those who were ABLE to get out in the sunlight were probably not as ill as those that COULD NOT get outside, therefore the "sunshine cohort" was already pre-selected to have less severe illness and more likely to survive
Also, the fact that seasonal flu goes away with warmer temperature is exactly that---warmer temperatures, NOT direct exposure to sunlight. In our colder climates, people tend to be huddled indoors during winter---once the temperature goes up, people are out and about---kind of a "social distancing"
But I will be happy to read any article in a legitimate medical journal that concludes direct sunlight prevents/mitigates/cures coronavirus.

I stand corrected, Doc. Your opinion, I trust. I was equating sunlight with warmer temps.

ColdNoMore 03-16-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1728032)
Ah, 1918, when hysterectomies and lobotomies were used to treat mental disorders and mercury and arsenic were prescribed for venereal diseases.


YEP! :oops:

Marathon Man 03-17-2020 07:09 AM

Interesting discussion and debate.

My question would be this: We know that UV light kills bactera, etc. But how does sunlight affect bugs that are inside my body?

Yukon33 03-17-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1728233)
Great! We could now expect cases of 2nd and 3rd degree burns to flood the ER.

😂😂😂

NotFromAroundHere 03-18-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1728742)
Interesting discussion and debate.

My question would be this: We know that UV light kills bactera, etc. But how does sunlight affect bugs that are inside my body?

Open your mouth really wide...

Marathon Man 03-18-2020 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NotFromAroundHere (Post 1729620)
Open your mouth really wide...

Too darned good.

:bigbow:


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