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Kelevision 08-04-2022 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2122346)
It's the same dozen or so posters who "Ground Hog Day" most every thread to death.

Adding them to your ignore list improves the experience here.
OMG… what?!?! You can choose to ignore certain people?!?!?!? :bigbow::mademyday:

Oldragbagger 08-04-2022 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2122288)
I'm in DeLuna too and hear nothing unless I'm trying to listen for it. There's just some people on here trying to create a narrative that it's loud for some apparent reason. It seems like the only people that care about the turnpike "noise" in DeLuna live in other parts of the Villages.
So right, for all the areas in the south. And it seems to mostly be the same folks over and over. It almost seems like they spend their day watching for opportunities to comment on an area that they do not live in, as if this areas existence is somehow a threat to them. I often wonder what their agenda is that they want to devote so much time and energy to disparaging all the neighborhoods in the south. They say they are happy living up north. Okay, so be happy then, and let us be happy with where we live too.

Boston-Sean 08-04-2022 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2122285)
Noise from lawn mowers is very brief. These guys are in and out of here in 15 minutes.
On the list of things that surprised me during my month long stay, landscaping noise was near the top of the list.

Or I should say lack of landscaping noise. I was in a neighborhood of villas and the noise was basically non-existant. I actually timed how long it took them to mow the lawn for the house I was in and it was less than 45 seconds for the back and maybe 30 seconds for the front. Then they were gone. The whole neighborhood or at least everything I could hear was done in less than 90 minutes. Once a week.

Another benefit of small lots.

Bogie Shooter 08-04-2022 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2122285)
Noise from lawn mowers is very brief. These guys are in and out of here in 15 minutes. Times that by a few homes that are close by. Turnpike noise is constant.
You know this how, from Mallory Square?

vintageogauge 08-04-2022 12:23 PM
Mr. Chip that is the truth and has been going on since the first home was built south of 44. Don't let it get you down it's always the same members, they all belong to the same "South of 44 Bashers" club, they're sort of like the old ladies that drive around looking for front yard violations.

Normal 08-04-2022 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2122287)
I'm in DeLuna and you can hear the turnpike if you're trying to focus on listening for it I guess. If you live near Morse blvd or Buena Vista you'll here cars and golf carts all day/evening too if you listen for them too.
I frequent Mulberry and the Lady Lake area. The noise is much worse in some areas up there.

Marathon Man 08-04-2022 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldragbagger (Post 2122399)
So right, for all the areas in the south. And it seems to mostly be the same folks over and over. It almost seems like they spend their day watching for opportunities to comment on an area that they do not live in, as if this areas existence is somehow a threat to them. I often wonder what their agenda is that they want to devote so much time and energy to disparaging all the neighborhoods in the south. They say they are happy living up north. Okay, so be happy then, and let us be happy with where we live too.
So right. I believe that they do consider it a threat. Houses are selling in the south as fast as they are built. The "new formular" as I call it has a better look than the traditional look north of 44. People coming to TV for the first time can easily see the difference. It is why we moved.

I guess if I lived in the north and was concerned about my property value, I might find every opportunity to toss the dirt in the hopes that it may land somewhere.

Oldragbagger 08-04-2022 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2122553)
So right. I believe that they do consider it a threat. Houses are selling in the south as fast as they are built. The "new formular" as I call it has a better look than the traditional look north of 44. People coming to TV for the first time can easily see the difference. It is why we moved.

I guess if I lived in the north and was concerned about my property value, I might find every opportunity to toss the dirt in the hopes that it may land somewhere.
Excellent point. There has to be something to it, and this makes sense. We just came from our neighborhood pool. We talked to a number of people, and every single one of them love it here in the Village of Hawkins, in the south, with the turnpike nearby, everything about it. I asked if they had any complaints. Everyone agreed they had absolutely no complaints, no regrets, and can’t imagine why anyone would.

coffeebean 08-04-2022 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2122526)
You know this how, from Mallory Square?
I personally can not hear the turnpike from Mallory Square. We are far, far, far away from the Turnpike. I have, however, read many a comment from folks who do live in close proximity to the turnpike and they have commented on the constant hum they can hear from their homes in the south. I have never lived in close proximity to a major roadway and there is a reason for that.

coffeebean 08-04-2022 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2122553)
So right. I believe that they do consider it a threat. Houses are selling in the south as fast as they are built. The "new formular" as I call it has a better look than the traditional look north of 44. People coming to TV for the first time can easily see the difference. It is why we moved.

I guess if I lived in the north and was concerned about my property value, I might find every opportunity to toss the dirt in the hopes that it may land somewhere.
I don't see what you see. I have driven to the southern area a few times and I still look for the lovely water falls and gardens on the corners of the main roads that we have north of 44. South of 44, I have not found one corner adorned with those beautiful water falls. I also do not see the abundance of flower plantings as there are north of 44. I noticed this the first time more than a year ago and was hoping the area would be "prettied up" more like what we have north of 44. Hubby and I took a drive down there two weeks ago and it still looks very sterile to me. Still no fountains on the corners and the planting of flowers are very minimal.

Just my observations. I don't mean to bash at all.

Bogie Shooter 08-04-2022 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2122608)
I personally can not hear the turnpike from Mallory Square. We are far, far, far away from the Turnpike. I have, however, read many a comment from folks who do live in close proximity to the turnpike and they have commented on the constant hum they can hear from their homes in the south. I have never lived in close proximity to a major roadway and there is a reason for that.
So, your statement was based on hearsay?
Added nothing.

coffeebean 08-04-2022 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2122611)
So, your statement was based on hearsay?
Added nothing.
Yes, I guess it is considered "heresay". I believe what people post on this forum so when someone says they can hear the trucks on the turnpike from their lanai and even in their home with the windows closed, I believe them. Do you think people lie about this stuff?

BigSteph 08-04-2022 04:32 PM
I haven't read but a few posts in this thread, but I've read this Topic in several others.

I live South of 44, about 1/2 mile from the Turnpike. It is rare that I cannot hear the Turnpike. Most times, it is a din of noise and on certain nights it is raging.

As others have likely stated, it depends on the winds, the rains, the humidity and the temperatures.

During the day, other noises compete and often win. At night, the road noise almost always wins.

More homes between you and the Turnpike is a bad gamble. The noise today is likely the noise a month from now, a year from now -- more homes, trees, etc. will only change the level, it will not deaden it.

I'm glad we are 1/2 mile away.

Would it have changed our decision had we known,... probably.

Would other things have changed our decision had we known, probably.

I'm playing with cards we were dealt, not the ones from the other deck or the other table.

I don't hate living here, near the noise. It is just something to tolerate at times.

thelegges 08-05-2022 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2122610)
I don't see what you see. I have driven to the southern area a few times and I still look for the lovely water falls and gardens on the corners of the main roads that we have north of 44. South of 44, I have not found one corner adorned with those beautiful water falls. I also do not see the abundance of flower plantings as there are north of 44. I noticed this the first time more than a year ago and was hoping the area would be "prettied up" more like what we have north of 44. Hubby and I took a drive down there two weeks ago and it still looks very sterile to me. Still no fountains on the corners and the planting of flowers are very minimal.

Just my observations. I don't mean to bash at all.
I guess I have missed the waterfalls you speak of. Other than SS, and the eye catching brook at Glenview entrance.

Have seen many bubblers that keeps water moving within the pond, to keep the pond scum at bay. Waterfalls not so much.

Bikehike 08-06-2022 04:07 AM
I lived half a mile from an eight lane highway and didn’t hear the noise with the windows closed because it was a low hum but with the windows open you can hear it at night more than during the day. The neighborhood noise was much louder things like lawn equipment and tools, or loud music or diesel trucks. Here it's the train mostly

beckylou152 08-06-2022 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2121029)
I’m returning for my second lifestyle visit in a few weeks, after just getting back from my first. Interested in a new build. Liked DeLuna, but not the homes right next to turnpike (too noisy). Those in the southern part of DeLuna seem to be far enough from turnpike noise. Looking to buy around October, and DeLuna may be sold out by then, which will put me looking at Richmond. Great location, but many lots close to turnpike. Question - I don’t mind a distant hum of noise, but how far away from turnpike should I be so I don’t hear much noise?
If you plan to have a screened lanai and be outside a lot, be careful of the noise. There was a recent YouTube video where someone took a noise reading at Richmond and it was fine so long as it wasn’t near the turnpike. But those lots are already slowly being released and selling fast if you are building. Don’t forget preowned homes too - lots of newer homes all over for sale! You have many choices - spend lots of time looking.

Bogie Shooter 08-06-2022 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2122613)
Yes, I guess it is considered "heresay". I believe what people post on this forum so when someone says they can hear the trucks on the turnpike from their lanai and even in their home with the windows closed, I believe them. Do you think people lie about this stuff?
Often……

Marathon Man 08-06-2022 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2122613)
Yes, I guess it is considered "heresay". I believe what people post on this forum so when someone says they can hear the trucks on the turnpike from their lanai and even in their home with the windows closed, I believe them. Do you think people lie about this stuff?
Why the need to speak for others? Why not let those near the turnpike comment on the turnpike. They don't need help.

Michael 61 08-06-2022 10:36 AM
Thank you everyone for all your replies - a very diverse and varied los for comments, but all have been helpful - my next lifestyle in little over a two weeks will be heavily focused on turnpike noise. For clarification, I can deal with a distant hum. I will probably be on my Lanai no more than half hour each morning for coffee. Hearing noise outside my house is not so much a concern - what I don’t want is to be able to hear any noise inside my home with my windows closed. I like the more “ open” kitchen feel better of the new homes, which is drawing me to a newer home vs an older resale.

Bikehike 08-06-2022 11:03 AM
Golf carts are more frequent and louder unless you're really close to the highway

coffeebean 08-06-2022 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 2122676)
I guess I have missed the waterfalls you speak of. Other than SS, and the eye catching brook at Glenview entrance.

Have seen many bubblers that keeps water moving within the pond, to keep the pond scum at bay. Waterfalls not so much.
There are several major road corners adorned with fountains and a pretty gardens. Drive along Morse Blvd and Buena Vista Blvd north of 44 and you will see them. These beautiful corners were very inviting when I first came to The Villages. LOVED the look and beauty of this place.

Another area that really impressed me when we came for our lifestyle visit back in December of 2008, is that small stretch on Buena Vista Blvd that is totally encompassed with huge Live Oak Trees on both sides of the roadway, towering over the road. This stretch is located in the Lake Sumter Landing area. Driving that small section on Buena Vista Blvd. at night was so calming to me. I said to my husband right then and there, we HAVE to move here.

coffeebean 08-06-2022 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2123075)
Often……
Gee, that's too bad. Passing on incorrect information purposefully is not something I would ever do. My parents taught me better than that.

coffeebean 08-06-2022 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2123164)
Why the need to speak for others? Why not let those near the turnpike comment on the turnpike. They don't need help.
I actually can sort of speak to the sound of constant traffic hum.............

I grew up on Long Island, about one mile away from Sunrise Highway. Our neighborhood was already built up with homes so there were several blocks of homes between our home and Sunrise Hwy. At that time, Sunrise Highway was two lanes each way with, I think, a speed limit of about 40 MPH.

We did not have central air conditioning in our house so we slept with the windows open in the warmer months. I would wake up to the constant "hum" of the traffic and it was very audible to me back then. Young ears, I guess so my hearing was very astute as a kid. Anyway, that memory of traffic hum will always be with me. I vowed never ever to live near a major roadway where I would hear a constant hum of traffic.

As an adult, I kept that promise to myself and have never had to listen to constant traffic hum where I lived.

Marathon Man 08-06-2022 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2123216)
I actually can sort of speak to the sound of constant traffic hum.............

I grew up on Long Island, about one mile away from Sunrise Highway. Our neighborhood was already built up with homes so there were several blocks of homes between our home and Sunrise Hwy. At that time, Sunrise Highway was two lanes each way with, I think, a speed limit of about 40 MPH.

We did not have central air conditioning in our house so we slept with the windows open in the warmer months. I would wake up to the constant "hum" of the traffic and it was very audible to me back then. Young ears, I guess so my hearing was very astute as a kid. Anyway, that memory of traffic hum will always be with me. I vowed never ever to live near a major roadway where I would hear a constant hum of traffic.

As an adult, I kept that promise to myself and have never had to listen to constant traffic hum where I lived.
OK. And you kept your promise. But why so many comments about the turnpike?

Constant noise becomes background sound and soon goes un-noticed. It's intermittent noise that I find more disturbing.

Happydaz 08-06-2022 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2123239)
OK. And you kept your promise. But why so many comments about the turnpike?

Constant noise becomes background sound and soon goes un-noticed. It's intermittent noise that I find more disturbing.
I lived in California over thirty years ago and the highway noise near our house was very loud. I didn’t realize it when I bought it but at night and in colder weather it sounded like a jet taking off. The house is worth today more than I could ever have imagined, $2.3 million! I guess most people don’t care. One note though, there are reputable studies showing a link between highway noise and hypertension so it may not just be innocuous background noise.

fdpaq0580 08-06-2022 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2123239)
OK. And you kept your promise. But why so many comments about the turnpike?

Constant noise becomes background sound and soon goes un-noticed. It's intermittent noise that I find more disturbing.
While I agree that intermmitent noise can be disturbing, and often even startling, constant noise can be a never-ending, even painful and exhausting problem. Ask someone with tinnitus.
As for the comments about the turnpike, could just be wanting to participate in an open conversation and not really trying to empart any earth shatering revelation.

coffeebean 08-06-2022 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2123239)
OK. And you kept your promise. But why so many comments about the turnpike?

Constant noise becomes background sound and soon goes un-noticed. It's intermittent noise that I find more disturbing.
That traffic noise I heard as a kid never went un-noticed by me, especially in the morning when there wasn't any other noises other than birds as they were waking up to a new day. It always bothered me seeing homes lining the Belt Parkway on Long Island and any other parkway for that matter. It has always been a sore spot.

Altavia 08-06-2022 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2123165)
Thank you everyone for all your replies - a very diverse and varied los for comments, but all have been helpful - my next lifestyle in little over a two weeks will be heavily focused on turnpike noise. For clarification, I can deal with a distant hum. I will probably be on my Lanai no more than half hour each morning for coffee. Hearing noise outside my house is not so much a concern - what I don’t want is to be able to hear any noise inside my home with my windows closed. I like the more “ open” kitchen feel better of the new homes, which is drawing me to a newer home vs an older resale.
One thing to add I don’t recall previously mentioned, concrete block/pre-cast construction will likely do a better job of blocking interior noise than frame.

Good luck with your search!

Timothyimitchell 08-07-2022 01:55 PM
Lots going on down here near Sawgrass. And lots more coming when the bridge opens up. This is going to be the hot spot in 5-10 years. And I love it down here. But, I love it everywhere here in TV. It's really easy. If you are concerned about the noise move further north. If it doesn't bother you, Come on down. You'll love it. To me, the noise is a NON ISSUE

Stu from NYC 08-07-2022 02:32 PM
Spend a month or two here before making a decision. Huge place and not easy to decide what is best for you

BlueStarAirlines 08-07-2022 04:33 PM
Everyone mentions the turnpike noise down south, but no one seems to mention that the north seems to have a lot of electrical outages. Was told power was out in Belvedere, Ashland, Amelia, and other villages today. Was out 2-3 times for various reasons in the last 3-4 weeks.

Stu from NYC 08-07-2022 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines (Post 2123599)
Everyone mentions the turnpike noise down south, but no one seems to mention that the north seems to have a lot of electrical outages. Was told power was out in Belvedere, Ashland, Amelia, and other villages today. Was out 2-3 times for various reasons in the last 3-4 weeks.
Heard of a couple and it does not seem to happen very often but noise near a heavily used turnpike will not stop

Normal 08-08-2022 06:44 AM
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How far does 441/27 noise travel….or how far does 42 noise travel…or 44? It’s all the same. The southern villages might work out a little better on noise if they expand the turnpike only because the population density would require the state to install sound barrier walls.

RPDaly 08-08-2022 11:00 AM
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Boston-Sean 08-08-2022 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RPDaly (Post 2123839)
There a lot of these studies you can find out there but most indicate sound barriers along highways are not very effective overall - especially considering their cost. May be one of those out of sight - out of mind results at best.

Abstract

The objective of this study was to determine the actual and perceived effectiveness of noise barriers along interstate highways. Using a 5-mile section of Interstate 71 in the greater Cincinnati area as the study area, traffic noise readings and opinions of residents living along the sections of the highway were recorded. Noise readings were taken before and after the noise barriers were erected. A questionnaire was designed to elicit noise-related annoyance of the residents in the areas adjoining the highway. The results indicated that, in general, noise barriers were effective as indicated by a reduction in noise levels by as much as 11 dBA. The barriers, however, failed to bring noise levels for locations closer to the highway within the levels desired by the government (67 dBA). Most residents living right next to the highway were very satisfied with the installation of noise barriers. In general, these individuals felt that the quality of life improved with the noise barrier installation. The same, however, was not true of residents living a few blocks away from the highway--they felt the noise barriers were a waste of money. There was no significant difference in traffic noise pattern during the weekdays or weekends. Noise readings taken in two different locations were observed to be similar
That is consistent with something I read about traffic sound barriers. That being the homes closest to the barriers got the most sound relief. As you moved further and further away from the barriers the sound mitigation was minimal. Not much different than with no barriers.

OrangeCrush 08-08-2022 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2121029)
I’m returning for my second lifestyle visit in a few weeks, after just getting back from my first. Interested in a new build. Liked DeLuna, but not the homes right next to turnpike (too noisy). Those in the southern part of DeLuna seem to be far enough from turnpike noise. Looking to buy around October, and DeLuna may be sold out by then, which will put me looking at Richmond. Great location, but many lots close to turnpike. Question - I don’t mind a distant hum of noise, but how far away from turnpike should I be so I don’t hear much noise?
Your concern is exactly what we were concerned with being so close to TP, especially off Meggison. We chose DeLuna and got a lot and are in process of building. We chose closer to 301, which I'd imagine will also expand in the future, based on popular demand for the Village area and the saying, "If you build it, they will come." We've been up to see the building ongoing nearly weekly and the noise from 301 and TP are not noticeable. That's now, but as the area grows and traffic increases, noise pollution will undoubtedly increase too. We're leaving the Land o' Lakes, FL area off US-41 and US-54, where there's LOTS of noise all day/all night. We love our lanai, but the traffic noise is constant, hence we're saying so long to the area and moving to a new and hopefully very active and fun life. There's been plenty of terrific feedback from fellow Villagers to ponder over. Best wishes on your home selection!

Stu from NYC 08-08-2022 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston-Sean (Post 2123894)
That is consistent with something I read about traffic sound barriers. That being the homes closest to the barriers got the most sound relief. As you moved further and further away from the barriers the sound mitigation was minimal. Not much different than with no barriers.
Wonder why that should be

Boston-Sean 08-08-2022 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2123909)
Wonder why that should be
This explains it:

On Highway Noise Barriers, the Science Is Mixed. Are There Alternatives?

Stu from NYC 08-08-2022 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston-Sean (Post 2123958)
Wow thank you for sharing. Many years ago my college physics class taught me that sound does not travel in straight lines but waves and totally forgot.

So the fed govt is actually the cause of having these walls all over the highways. Sure would not want one in my backyard rather an eyesore.

MrChip72 08-08-2022 06:15 PM
Why is it that people that admittedly don't live anywhere near the turnpike are 80% of the posters in this thread? What's the point?


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