[PrudentLifer]

Originally Posted by Dionysos

Pretty sure our founding fathers promoted hemp.

Hemp and Our Founding Fathers - World History

I would not have fought for this.




"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[karostay]

Originally Posted by billethkid

No thanks.

If I am going to lose touch with reality then my choice is a good cognac and a cigar.

Smell of Cigar smoke is about as appealing as burning garbage

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by karostay

Smell of Cigar smoke is about as appealing as burning garbage

I agree and marijuana as it is smoked smells like burning garbage, grass and leaves from trees all mixed together.

[karostay]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

I agree and marijuana as it is smoked smells like burning garbage, grass and leaves from trees all mixed together.

Old school...new class

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Dionysos

Pretty sure our founding fathers promoted hemp.

Hemp and Our Founding Fathers - World History

Well, they used to bleed people to cure them. Dec. 14, 1799: The excruciating final hours of President George Washington | PBS NewsHour

[PrudentLifer]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Well, they used to bleed people to cure them. Dec. 14, 1799: The excruciating final hours of President George Washington | PBS NewsHour

In the future, will our medical science procedures be seen in the same light we see here?


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by PrudentLifer

In the future, will our medical science procedures be seen in the same light we see here?


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

Haha, I don't think we are going back to archaic or medieval health care anytime soon. Even if we do, you and I will be long since dead!

[PrudentLifer]

Originally Posted by Dionysos

Haha, I don't think we are going back to archaic or medieval health care anytime soon. Even if we do, you and I will be long since dead!

Not claiming our science is "medieval", just current. A hospital stay isn't exactly a walk in the park.


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by PrudentLifer

Not claiming our science is "medieval", just current. A hospital stay isn't exactly a walk in the park.


"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears..."
George Orwell

Yeah I get you and totally agree no "walk in the park" Now its big pharma and Insurance doing the bloodletting.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by karostay

Smell of Cigar smoke is about as appealing as burning garbage

I wouldn't know not frequenting burning garbage locations!

You know that old saying? To each his own.....

And aren't we all glad we don't have to like what everybody else likes (OR NOT!!!).

[John_W]

If I had the chance I would not. Main reason is I now have COPD from 35 years of cigarette smoking. Actually when I play golf one fellow in my group smokes a cigar and I rather enjoy the smell. If I didn't have lung problems, I still probably wouldn't, last time I smoked was with Jim Dandy of Black Oak Arkansas, so I have that going for me. If anybody wants to know where David Lee Roth got his act, it was Jim Dandy.



However, the years have not been good for Jim Mangrum, this is what smoking, drugging and drinking does to you.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by billethkid

No thanks.

If I am going to lose touch with reality then my choice is a good cognac and a cigar.

[PennBF]

It is not humor to joke about Pot usage. As the experts will tell you about 20% of users of pot move on to different drugs, (E.G. Heron, Coke, Meth, etc). Below the age of 18 the impact on the user is also faster brain damage, etc. As an example of a quiet impact of a drug you should consider that in some cases when using a pain killer drug the pain can go away so the brain creates its own demand for the drug by pretending to be the source of the pain. The usage of pots has a number of effects on the body and if it is believed it is the source of your good feeling you are just being a sucker to the drug as it is having a host of impacts on your body and brain. Because you "feel good" is a temporary relief as it has you and fools you. Who is the SAP. The person who recognizes the need to keep the body and mind clean or the one who runs the body and mind to the ground for a "quick good feeling".

[roob1]

Yes you are better off using alcohol, nicotine, or an opioid or benzo prescribed by your MD....yea right LOL. These constitute the real substance abuse problems in this country. But oh wait, they must be OK for us because we as a society approve their usage...NOT.

Even if it is true that 20% of pot users move on to different drugs, one can not establish that they move on because of using pot, i.e. a cause/effect relationship can not be concluded, only a possible relationship. More than likely they moved on to harder substances for a similar reason they began using pot.

Originally Posted by PennBF

It is not humor to joke about Pot usage. As the experts will tell you about 20% of users of pot move on to different drugs, (E.G. Heron, Coke, Meth, etc). Below the age of 18 the impact on the user is also faster brain damage, etc. As an example of a quiet impact of a drug you should consider that in some cases when using a pain killer drug the pain can go away so the brain creates its own demand for the drug by pretending to be the source of the pain. The usage of pots has a number of effects on the body and if it is believed it is the source of your good feeling you are just being a sucker to the drug as it is having a host of impacts on your body and brain. Because you "feel good" is a temporary relief as it has you and fools you. Who is the SAP. The person who recognizes the need to keep the body and mind clean or the one who runs the body and mind to the ground for a "quick good feeling".

[manaboutown]

Marijuana may be a gateway drug, especially with adolescents. Marijuana Has Proven to Be a Gateway Drug - NYTimes.com