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sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-25-2023 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2211324)
ha ha hey I was on your side I brought up that it wasn’t the weed making him do that , but I should have also added something about his disability , , but please excuse my toot I get little tight when people start demonizing weed , it’s far better for you then many other vices , FYI I never smoked cigarettes

Ah shucks. Well, let’s make peace. Got a toke? Jk I’ll take a good cigar tho.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-25-2023 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2211343)

Is that your echo-human observation of someone just making a comment?

It was a question, no observation was provided. My advice and observation is this, however: If you are going to make medical statements about another person’s medical condition, without being a certified medical provider, you could perhaps be seen as someone who is lacking in credibility and basis. To get people to care about an opinion, one needs to build a fact base to support that idea. For instance, identifying 15 comments on this thread as biased statements that lack facts is a way for someone to prove that 15 trolls are attacking an innocent man.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-25-2023 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2211329)
There are many unique characters at the squares. Almost all are enjoyable to watch or easily ignored. But in my opinion, this character crosses the line. If you’ve ever seen him let out one of his blood curdling screams right behind an unsuspecting audience member, you should understand why. One person’s startled reaction right near another person swinging a wand. An incident waiting to happen.

But even just imposing that scream on others there to enjoy the square is not right. None of those other unique characters I mentioned impose themselves on the audience the way this guy does.

You are warming my heart today Joe! Thanks for standing up. You did your good deed for today.

Aces4 04-25-2023 09:58 AM

I find this to be one of the most disturbing threads I’ve read on TOTV.

Hats off to the compassionate people who have supported this disabled gentleman and treated him kindly. For the other self-serving, navel inspecting crowd.. there is Karma.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-25-2023 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gator_Girl (Post 2211373)
If you pretend you are recording him on your phone he will move away, this has worked for me a few times.

That feels invasive.I would also recoil. Perhaps you could just walk away from him instead?

asianthree 04-25-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2210979)
A disturbance of any kind and for any reason is not universally accepted or appreciated. What if he was similarly demonstrative at the Sharon for a performance of Swan Lake. He screams, the swan hits the floor with a broken ankle. It could be a scream at the square that causes a new visitor to lose their balance, trip and end up with a broken hip.

So I am guessing you have little knowledge of professional performers. Our Granddaughter, while performing solo point, with an audience of 500, during a 5’ high leap broke her point shoe at landing. Did she break an ankle no, but continued to finish her performance with a broken shoe. If someone is performing Swan, a light crash down on the stage , and they would still continue, just avoid the mess:clap2: Have seen that happen couple times.

A visitor has a better percentage of falling from a child, or trip walking up the stairs, or catch their foot on a chair, than Mark, or a screaming child causing them to fall. And one would not have to be “New” to do so.

JMintzer 04-25-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2211187)
I have not found that true at all.

It's very true. It's human nature...

Murder of Kitty Genovese - Wikipedia

JMintzer 04-25-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211241)
Is that your qualified medical opinion?

Just as qualified as most of the other "medical" opinions...

JMintzer 04-25-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211244)
You mean the same way anonymous posters are bold about thinking they are qualified to medically diagnose and talk about someone’s health publicly?

You mean pretty much everyone on this thread?

JMintzer 04-25-2023 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211249)
He can control Asperger’s about as well as people on this thread can control their judgy comments. Judgement is a terrible disease. It’s also on public display on this thread, the Villages online square. I can picture all of the judgy posters holding their pointing sticks while they make thei judgy comments. Looks like we have a lot of town square screamers.

That's very judgmental of you...

JMintzer 04-25-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211257)
Yes! God forbid. I have to put up with all the snarky judgy people who complain about every little thing that offends their sensibilities on this public forum!

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Escape Artist 04-25-2023 11:52 AM

It seems that half the commenters here think Mark is just fine and his screaming is a normal expression of who he is as a man on the ASD spectrum.The other half are irritated and upset by his presence and actions as they can’t have an enjoyable evening listening to music and relaxing if there are loud shouts and screams. Both arguments have merit so maybe there should be a middle ground approach on this.

Also, there have been other threads about disruptive or odd people at the squares that upset some people and delight others. I guess this is just the inevitable byproduct of the “village square” concept in a community of over 100,000 people in a free and heterogeneous society.

Dlpdo 04-25-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2210771)
I would like to see that doctors diagnosis. He is in full control of his faculties. He used to stay near the fountain with no screaming. He just craves attention and has become much bolder over the years. Clearly, not Asperger's.

I would like to see your medical degree that might indicate you are competent to have an opinion.

sandyblanquera@gmail.com 04-25-2023 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2211461)

You continue to make it personal, attacking me nonstop. First you copied all my posts into a thread and shared it…except the posts you didn’t like. I was lighthearted about it. Then you called me a troll for standing up to bullies. Again I kept it light. Then you posted about five more personal attacks. You are such a stalker dude. Not cool. Back off.

JMintzer 04-25-2023 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211479)
You continue to make it personal, attacking me nonstop. First you copied all my posts into a thread and shared it…except the posts you didn’t like. I was lighthearted about it. Then you called me a troll for standing up to bullies. Again I kept it light. Then you posted about five more personal attacks. You are such a stalker dude. Not cool. Back off.

Sage advice, you should take it...

Taltarzac725 04-25-2023 02:45 PM

People should watch Rain Man again if they have not seen it before.

Rain Man - Rotten Tomatoes

I do think watching movies especially good ones like Rain Man creates empathy.

Whitley 04-25-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2211461)

When did this go off the rails.

bark4me 04-25-2023 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2210771)
I would like to see that doctors diagnosis. He is in full control of his faculties. He used to stay near the fountain with no screaming. He just craves attention and has become much bolder over the years. Clearly, not Asperger's.

I'd like to see your doctors diagnosis to see what your major malfunction is.

Whitley 04-25-2023 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bark4me (Post 2211537)
I'd like to see your doctors diagnosis to see what your major malfunction is.

Never put much credit to any argument that suggests one need a medical license to have an opinion on a case. As a parent who can read, I know fever, dry cough, runny nose, light sensitivity, brownish red patches or dots that start by the head/neck and move down the body would be indicative of measles. No medical degree.
Have fun everyone. Life is short.

fdpaq0580 04-25-2023 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyblanquera@gmail.com (Post 2211416)
Ah shucks. Well, let’s make peace. Got a toke? Jk I’ll take a good cigar tho.

No such thing, imho.

fdpaq0580 04-25-2023 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2211443)
So I am guessing you have little knowledge of professional performers. Our Granddaughter, while performing solo point, with an audience of 500, during a 5’ high leap broke her point shoe at landing. Did she break an ankle no, but continued to finish her performance with a broken shoe. If someone is performing Swan, a light crash down on the stage , and they would still continue, just avoid the mess:clap2: Have seen that happen couple times.

A visitor has a better percentage of falling from a child, or trip walking up the stairs, or catch their foot on a chair, than Mark, or a screaming child causing them to fall. And one would not have to be “New” to do so.

You guess wrong. But, that is beside the point.
Not every performer, of any kind, appreciates distractions during a performance. Depending on the difficulty or level of concentration required distractions can cause mistakes or failures regardless of whether it is intentional or not. There is nothing wrong with not liking to be surprised or startled or shocked. It's part of our instinct for self preservation. Not liking the act has nothing to do with having empathy for the actor. One can still love thy neighbor even though his unconscious whistling causes your ears to bleed.

fdpaq0580 04-25-2023 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2211459)
That's very judgmental of you...

Actually, we are all judging all the time. Is it safe, dangerous, hot, cold, light, dark, fast, slow. Is it sweet, sour, bad, good, tall, short, etc.
We judge everything all the time. It is one of the aspects of our instinct for self preservation. Like, can I make it to that tree before that lion gets me?


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