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CFrance 12-20-2017 01:43 PM
We go round-a-bout on this issue every year.

I still say, you cannot be in the left lane and get to either of the entrances without crossing over the right lane. I think the statement means not to change lanes while driving inside of the roundabout. Once you're in whatever lane you entered in, stay there till you exit. Obviously, you have to cross over the outside lane from the inside lane in order to exit the roundabout. Both visitor's and residents' gates are on the right.

Polar Bear 12-20-2017 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1493049)
We go round-a-bout on this issue every year.

I still say, you cannot be in the left lane and get to either of the entrances without crossing over the right lane. I think the statement means not to change lanes while driving inside of the roundabout. Once you're in whatever lane you entered in, stay there till you exit. Obviously, you have to cross over the outside lane from the inside lane in order to exit the roundabout. Both visitor's and residents' gates are on the right.
What CF said.

Henryk 12-20-2017 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bikeman (Post 1195546)
This SUV tried to run over one of our cyclist the other day. Going north on Buena Vista by the Savannah center round about, our group after stopping to let other cars clear, started north again. That is when this SUV came up from behind us in the left lane and crossed in front of our lane to turn right on El Camino Real just missing the lead rider by inches, and mean inches. Had he not turned his from wheel to the right just a little, he would have been hit. No telling what injuries might have occurred if the contact had happened. Fortunately, the last cyclist had a camera going and we were able to get the license number. We called the Sumter County police, and officer Wills, to report the incident. We were not looking to ticket the driver, but to let him/her know that crossing two lanes at a high rate of speed is jeopardizing the safety, and maybe the life of these cyclist. The officer refused to help even after giving him the license number. I wonder if the same officer would have shown any interest if this SUV had collided with the bicycle? I guess someone has to be injured before this officer would help with the situation. If you know this person, please notify them that what they did was totally wrong, and could have cost someone their life just to make the turn 5 seconds earlier. They never stopped, or even acknowledged any wrong doing. Even after giving the Sumter County officer the license number he refused to do anything telling me that Florida license plates has 6 numbers/letters not 5. I know that vanity plates in Florida can have less than 6. I am not sure why he chose not to pursue this problem, or at least make a call telling them they are now being watched and should be more considerate of cyclist. Here is a picture of the SUV. Please let me know if you know this person. License # SJE IT
Thanks for caring,
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Cop told you plates are all six characters? Know-nothing condescending jerk.

CFrance 12-20-2017 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1493143)
Cop told you plates are all six characters? Know-nothing condescending jerk.
Or lazy and doesn't want to spend time pursuing it

Polar Bear 12-20-2017 08:50 PM
The cop on the phone may have been a jerk. But I'm not sure going after sonebody based on a single phone call when there was no accident is a good idea. Got a bone to pick with somebody? Call the police and give 'em his/her license plate number. That'll get 'em!

l2ridehd 12-21-2017 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1240251)
Ah, but the lines are part of the problem. Look at this picture of the Morse/Stillwater RAB. If you follow the broken lines, there is no reason why a driver in the outside lane cannot go 3/4 of the way around. There is also no reason someone can't enter in the outside lane, transition to the inside lane in the RAB, and exit in the outside lane. The lines are broken. It's much better to pay attention to the signs before the RAB that designate how you must proceed depending on which lane you are in entering the RAB.

A roundabout is nothing but a traffic light replacement. Treat it that way. If turning right enter on the right. If turning left enter on the left. If going straight through use either lane. So simple.

If you were coming south on Morse and hit the light at 466. Would you stay in the right lane to make a left hand turn? That is what your doing if you go 3/4 the way around a circle in the right hand lane.

Would you enter the traffic light intersection on a red light? Would you enter if another car was in the intersection? That is what your doing if you don't yield to both lanes for cars already in the circle.

It's a traffic light replacement, treat it that way and everything works.

CFrance 12-21-2017 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1493321)
A roundabout is nothing but a traffic light replacement. Treat it that way. If turning right enter on the right. If turning left enter on the left. If going straight through use either lane. So simple.

If you were coming south on Morse and hit the light at 466. Would you stay in the right lane to make a left hand turn? That is what your doing if you go 3/4 the way around a circle in the right hand lane.

Would you enter the traffic light intersection on a red light? Would you enter if another car was in the intersection? That is what your doing if you don't yield to both lanes for cars already in the circle.

It's a traffic light replacement, treat it that way and everything works.
That's how someone explained it to me six years ago. Your simple explanation should be posted at the roundabouts! Or at least, everyone should have to listen to this explanation when they pick up their IDs or guest passes. It's simple, makes sense, is easy to remember.:wave:

John_W 12-21-2017 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by bikeman
That is when this SUV came up from behind us in the left lane and crossed in front of our lane to turn right on El Camino Real just missing the lead rider by inches, and mean inches. Had he not turned his from wheel to the right just a little, he would have been hit. No telling what injuries might have occurred if the contact had happened. Fortunately, the last cyclist had a camera going and we were able to get the license number.
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kappy 12-25-2017 08:46 AM
CF. If you look at the roundabout brochure, on both the front page and the back page, it shows a vehicle making a left turn, (going 3/4 around), must start from the left hand lane, stay in the left hand lane and , when exiting, remain in that lane. This means that when you go into a gate after making a left hand turn, you must enter the visitors gate.

twoplanekid 12-25-2017 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1494981)
CF. If you look at the roundabout brochure, on both the front page and the back page, it shows a vehicle making a left turn, (going 3/4 around), must start from the left hand lane, stay in the left hand lane and , when exiting, remain in that lane. This means that when you go into a gate after making a left hand lane, you must enter the visitors gate.
Not necessary true for every roundabout - see my post #40 It all depends on the markings in the roundabout.

Polar Bear 12-25-2017 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1494981)
...when you go into a gate after making a left hand lane, you must enter the visitors gate.
Simply not true.

And Merry Christmas. :)

autumnspring 12-25-2017 10:43 AM
For what it is worth
 
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Originally Posted by bikeman (Post 1195546)
This SUV tried to run over one of our cyclist the other day. Going north on Buena Vista by the Savannah center round about, our group after stopping to let other cars clear, started north again. That is when this SUV came up from behind us in the left lane and crossed in front of our lane to turn right on El Camino Real just missing the lead rider by inches, and mean inches. Had he not turned his from wheel to the right just a little, he would have been hit. No telling what injuries might have occurred if the contact had happened. Fortunately, the last cyclist had a camera going and we were able to get the license number. We called the Sumter County police, and officer Wills, to report the incident. We were not looking to ticket the driver, but to let him/her know that crossing two lanes at a high rate of speed is jeopardizing the safety, and maybe the life of these cyclist. The officer refused to help even after giving him the license number. I wonder if the same officer would have shown any interest if this SUV had collided with the bicycle? I guess someone has to be injured before this officer would help with the situation. If you know this person, please notify them that what they did was totally wrong, and could have cost someone their life just to make the turn 5 seconds earlier. They never stopped, or even acknowledged any wrong doing. Even after giving the Sumter County officer the license number he refused to do anything telling me that Florida license plates has 6 numbers/letters not 5. I know that vanity plates in Florida can have less than 6. I am not sure why he chose not to pursue this problem, or at least make a call telling them they are now being watched and should be more considerate of cyclist. Here is a picture of the SUV. Please let me know if you know this person. License # SJE IT
Thanks for caring,
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I drive a car, a golf cart and ride a bike. As posted by others. We all know the round a bouts are dangerous.

In the original post the RULES have been posted. In my view, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, assuming that other drivers, YOU KNOW THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO RISK YOU LIFE AND THEIR'S, know the laws and are going to follow them is a stretch.

We all think others are wrong. NO THAT IS NOT MY CAR.
I was not there BUT, I've seen the bike clubs out ridding in a mass of 20 plus bikes some ridding side by side and stretched out for half a block or more.

WHO IS WRONG? That seems to be your view. In my view, from your post, you are well aware that if a car hits a bike the bike will get the worst of it. Fortunately no one was hit. You should think about the best way to AVOID such encounters. REALIZE few drives realize the SPEEDS you bike riders travel at. The fact that nany of you will follow the leader, on his wheel with no independent thought
and that a sudden stop will likely result in a pile up etc etc etc

Polar Bear 12-25-2017 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1495031)
...We all know the round a bouts are dangerous...
No more so than other intersections.

kappy 12-26-2017 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1495016)
Simply not true.

And Merry Christmas. :)
Never change lanes between the 2nd and 3rd exits. The broken white line dividing the inner and outer lanes does not mean you may change lanes while inside the roundabout. The broken white line is there so that vehicles entering the roundabout can enter in either lane, depending on where they are going.

A vehicle entering a roundabout that is going 3/4 around, must be able to enter in the left hand lane, thereby crossing the broken white line. This is the same as if they were at a traffic light and were going to make a left hand turn onto a 4 lane road. Once you enter the road in the left lane, you can change lanes to the right lane. Approximately 30-40% of all drivers make this error by directly entering the right lane. (This information comes from “Professional Driving With Richard” that used to be printed in The Villages Homeowners Association monthly newsletters).

I have sent emails to Mrs. Tutt suggesting that the signs as you enter any 2 lane gate should indicate that the “Visitors” gate should read, “Residents and Visitors”. That is one of the reasons that residents can enter the visitors gate with their gate card.

CFrance 12-26-2017 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1495332)
Never change lanes between the 2nd and 3rd exits. The broken white line dividing the inner and outer lanes does not mean you may change lanes while inside the roundabout. The broken white line is there so that vehicles entering the roundabout can enter in either lane, depending on where they are going.

A vehicle entering a roundabout that is going 3/4 around, must be able to enter in the left hand lane, thereby crossing the broken white line. This is the same as if they were at a traffic light and were going to make a left hand turn onto a 4 lane road. Once you enter the road in the left lane, you can change lanes to the right lane. Approximately 30-40% of all drivers make this error by directly entering the right lane. (This information comes from “Professional Driving With Richard” that used to be printed in The Villages Homeowners Association monthly newsletters).

I have sent emails to Mrs. Tutt suggesting that the signs as you enter any 2 lane gate should indicate that the “Visitors” gate should read, “Residents and Visitors”. That is one of the reasons that residents can enter the visitors gate with their gate card.
Weirdly, in the state of FL, when you make a left hand turn onto a four lane road, you can go into either lane. If you turn right, you must turn into the same lane and then change lanes if you want after the turn.

Roundabouts... Do what the signs say that you encounter before the roundabout

MorTech 12-27-2017 12:01 AM
I bet that if the Developer had to do TV over, they would make all the traffic circles single lane and merge the two lanes to one just before the circle. Traffic flow would suffer but accidents would be avoided with those who can't seem to grasp the concept of "Yield" signage and "ALL traffic in the circle have the right of way".

The Visitor lane is for visitors only and there are reasons why the Gate Guard controls the Visitor gate...It has to do with resident right of way and MMP crossing.

maureenod 12-27-2017 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1495651)
I bet that if the Developer had to do TV over, they would make all the traffic circles single lane and merge the two lanes to one just before the circle. Traffic flow would suffer but accidents would be avoided with those who can't seem to grasp the concept of "Yield" signage and "ALL traffic in the circle have the right of way".

The Visitor lane is for visitors only and there are reasons why the Gate Guard controls the Visitor gate...It has to do with resident right of way and MMP crossing.
EXACTLY, I was in Killarney last August, high tourist season with many small roundabouts. Two lanes merged gradually into one. Everything went smoothly.

A few I encountered were 2 lanes and " Yikes", what a free for all. And no one signals.

Polar Bear 12-27-2017 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1495651)
I bet that if the Developer had to do TV over, they would make all the traffic circles single lane and merge the two lanes to one just before the circle...
Never in a million years. Then the capacity of all roads in TV would be halved...or worse.

The existing roundabouts are fine. Of course they are different than what many people are used to and require a period of adjustment. But they are as safe as signalized or stop sign intersections with far more capacity.

Traffic volumes matter. It's what dictates road design. Single lane roundabouts would never work in TV. The developer and his transportation experts knew that.

Marathon Man 12-27-2017 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1495332)
Never change lanes between the 2nd and 3rd exits. The broken white line dividing the inner and outer lanes does not mean you may change lanes while inside the roundabout. The broken white line is there so that vehicles entering the roundabout can enter in either lane, depending on where they are going.

A vehicle entering a roundabout that is going 3/4 around, must be able to enter in the left hand lane, thereby crossing the broken white line. This is the same as if they were at a traffic light and were going to make a left hand turn onto a 4 lane road. Once you enter the road in the left lane, you can change lanes to the right lane. Approximately 30-40% of all drivers make this error by directly entering the right lane. (This information comes from “Professional Driving With Richard” that used to be printed in The Villages Homeowners Association monthly newsletters).

I have sent emails to Mrs. Tutt suggesting that the signs as you enter any 2 lane gate should indicate that the “Visitors” gate should read, “Residents and Visitors”. That is one of the reasons that residents can enter the visitors gate with their gate card.
Too many folks believe that since they are residents, that they should always go through the resident gate. They change lanes in the middle of the roundabout, crossing from the inner to the outer lane. This is an unsafe maneuver.

Friends - it is ok to enter through the visitor gate. I do it all the time when I am in the inner lane of the roundabout. Simply stay there and use the left exit lane to the gate. This is the proper and safe thing to do.

If you don't agree with me, please take a look at the brochure. It clearly shows the proper exit from the inner lane.

Thank you for your attention.

Polar Bear 12-27-2017 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1495745)
...it is ok to enter through the visitor gate. I do it all the time when I am in the inner lane of the roundabout. Simply stay there and use the left exit lane to the gate. This is the proper and safe thing to do...
Correctamundo. :)

Henryk 12-27-2017 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1495332)
... That is one of the reasons that residents can enter the visitors gate with their gate card.
I never noticed! Thanks!

refeik 01-21-2018 10:51 PM
The best over all thing drivers should do is signal when they are going to exit a round-a-bout. Also switching lanes as you exit is a no no ..

CFrance 01-21-2018 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by refeik (Post 1507760)
The best over all thing drivers should do is signal when they are going to exit a round-a-bout. Also switching lanes as you exit is a no no ..
But... but... If switching lanes is a no-no, they should take down the Residents & Visitors signs. There are no markings on the street saying you can't switch lanes to exit. Everybody turning left from inside lane should then go to the visitors lane? You're still driving over the outside lane to get to the visitors entrance.

Today we had some under 55-year-old jackwagon in a white mercedes convertible pass us on the right in the roundabout, swerve in front of us into our inside lane, then move back to the right to exit. He saw an opening in the visitors lane, swerved again (already had pulled into the residents exit) into the visitors exit just to get ahead of one darn car.

Wiotte 01-21-2018 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1507762)
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But... but... If switching lanes is a no-no, they should take down the Residents & Visitors signs. There are no markings on the street saying you can't switch lanes to exit. Everybody turning left from inside lane should then go to the visitors lane? You're still driving over the outside lane to get to the visitors entrance.

Today we had some under 55-year-old jackwagon in a white mercedes convertible pass us on the right in the roundabout, swerve in front of us into our inside lane, then move back to the right to exit. He saw an opening in the visitors lane, swerved again (already had pulled into the residents exit) into the visitors exit just to get ahead of one darn car.


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Nucky 01-22-2018 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1507762)
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But... but... If switching lanes is a no-no, they should take down the Residents & Visitors signs. There are no markings on the street saying you can't switch lanes to exit. Everybody turning left from inside lane should then go to the visitors lane? You're still driving over the outside lane to get to the visitors entrance.

Today we had some under 55-year-old jackwagon in a white mercedes convertible pass us on the right in the roundabout, swerve in front of us into our inside lane, then move back to the right to exit. He saw an opening in the visitors lane, swerved again (already had pulled into the residents exit) into the visitors exit just to get ahead of one darn car.
Jackwagon, well I do declare there little lady sounds like that driver was as sharp as a bowling ball. Foghorn Leghorn over & out! :jester:

Rebel Pirate 01-22-2018 06:22 AM
"Yielding" vs "Having" the right of way
 
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Originally Posted by Villager Dude (Post 1240747)
I was told some time ago that the vehicle in the inside lane ( Left) has the right away at all times in a round a bout.

Is this true ?
No vehicle ever HAS the right of way. Statutes are written so that one vehicle must YIELD the right of way to another but NEVER grants the right of way to ANY vehicle. It's an important distinction that will hopefully shape the way a driver thinks. Here's a quote from DMV.ORG:

"The law does not give anyone the right of way on the road. Instead, it states who is required to yield the right of way in certain instances. It is also the responsibility of the driver to do everything possible to be safe and avoid a collision."

Marathon Man 01-22-2018 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1507762)
pa
But... but... If switching lanes is a no-no, they should take down the Residents & Visitors signs. There are no markings on the street saying you can't switch lanes to exit. Everybody turning left from inside lane should then go to the visitors lane? You're still driving over the outside lane to get to the visitors entrance.

Today we had some under 55-year-old jackwagon in a white mercedes convertible pass us on the right in the roundabout, swerve in front of us into our inside lane, then move back to the right to exit. He saw an opening in the visitors lane, swerved again (already had pulled into the residents exit) into the visitors exit just to get ahead of one darn car.
Yes. Check the pamphlet. More accurately, you must exit the roundabout into the lane going to the visitors gate. Once out of the roundabout, then you can change lanes. The trouble is that drivers change from the inner to the outer while still in the roundabout, and then take the exit.

twoplanekid 01-22-2018 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1507844)
Yes. Check the pamphlet. More accurately, you must exit the roundabout into the lane going to the visitors gate. Once out of the roundabout, then you can change lanes. The trouble is that drivers change from the inner to the outer while still in the roundabout, and then take the exit.
I do it all the time at my exit as it is legal and marked to do so at Hillsborough!

CWGUY 01-22-2018 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1507894)
I do it all the time at my exit as it is legal and marked to do so at Hillsborough!
:22yikes: You didn't read the brochure..... did you?

twoplanekid 01-22-2018 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1507904)
:22yikes: You didn't read the brochure..... did you?
If markings allow the change of lanes, it is permitted! I discussed this at a Welcome Wednesday day last year to present my opinion that these markings are confusing. Nevertheless, it is legal at this exit to change lanes by following my red markings to arrive at the right gate. Note that the outside/right lane must continue through and not turn left into Hillsborough. Most people do not do it correctly.:(

Lindaketchup 01-22-2018 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1507906)
If markings allow the change of lanes, it is permitted! I discussed this at a Welcome Wednesday day last year to present my opinion that these markings are confusing. Nevertheless, it is legal at this exit to change lanes by following my red markings to arrive at the right gate. Note that the outside/right lane must continue through and not turn left into Hillsborough. Most people do not do it correctly.:(
Including you! Please read the Sumter County pamphlet linked on the very first post. In the section that instructs how to make a left hand turn, "3. When you have passed the last exit before the one you want, use your right-turn signal and continue to use it through your exit. Do not change lanes."

Just because the line is broken, DOES NOT mean that you can change lanes within the roudabout.

Edited to add:

I agree with some of the other posters, the gate that says "Visitors" should say "Visitors AND Residents" I think that is why so many people change lanes within the roundabout.

twoplanekid 01-22-2018 04:53 PM
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Including you! Please read the Sumter County pamphlet linked on the very first post. In the section that instructs how to make a left hand turn, "3. When you have passed the last exit before the one you want, use your right-turn signal and continue to use it through your exit. Do not change lanes."

Just because the line is broken, DOES NOT mean that you can change lanes within the roudabout.

Edited to add:

I agree with some of the other posters, the gate that says "Visitors" should say "Visitors AND Residents" I think that is why so many people change lanes within the roundabout.
Sorry, you are wrong. There is no broken line or any line so that you can merge into the outer/right lane while making the turn in this roundabout. How else can you be in the clearly marked right lane? Now, the right or outer lane does have a solid white mark to not allow a left turn from that lane. The rule about changing lanes is not hard and fast as it was explained to me at a Welcome Wednesday meeting. Does this lead to some confusion, I believe it does. Sumter County will not change the markings.

Please look at the markings in this roundabout!

Bogie Shooter 01-22-2018 04:57 PM
Oh God.....here we go again.
:cus::popcorn::popcorn:

dbussone 01-22-2018 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1507989)
Oh God.....here we go again.

:cus::popcorn::popcorn:


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John_W 01-22-2018 05:26 PM
You know how to navigate a 2 lane roundabout, the same way you navigate a 2 lane 4-way stop. Turning right you use the right lane. Going straight you use either the right or left lane. Making a left turn you use the left lane (inside lane). Going around the outside lane very slowly does not make you safe, it makes you a candidate for a T-Bone by the driver in the inside lane leaving at the second exit. You know, this stuff is all on the signs just before each roundabout. Look at the sign and you see two lines, they will show you what the right lane can do and what the left can do.

Just make believe the lanes are straight and not curved.

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Blackie 01-22-2018 06:01 PM
Roundabout brochure
 
Here is the link to the roundabout brochure.

http://www.districtgov.org/community...t-02-08-12.pdf

The third bullet point quite clearly states "Do not change lanes in a roundabout"

Navigating Roundabouts
• Move up to the entrance line and wait for a gap in traffic. DO NOT ENTER next to a vehicle in the round- about, as that vehicle may be exiting at the next exit.
• Within the roundabout, do not stop except to avoid a collision; you have the right-of-way over entering traffic. Keep moving in a counterclockwise direction.
• Do not change lanes in a roundabout.
• A striped channelization island is present in several
roundabouts, which reduces the circulatory roadway to one lane approaching a single-lane exit.

Lindaketchup 01-22-2018 07:18 PM
I choose to believe the Sumter County pamphlet, where in four seperate places it clearly states "Do not change lanes in a roundabout" and not some person at a Welcome Wednesday meeting who said that these are not hard and fast rules. Keep changing lanes if you choose, but hopefully you won't be involved in an accident. You can explain to the insurance adjuster that these are not "hard and fast" rules, especially when they assign blame.

twoplanekid 01-22-2018 08:20 PM
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I choose to believe the Sumter County pamphlet, where in four seperate places it clearly states "Do not change lanes in a roundabout" and not some person at a Welcome Wednesday meeting who said that these are not hard and fast rules. Keep changing lanes if you choose, but hopefully you won't be involved in an accident. You can explain to the insurance adjuster that these are not "hard and fast" rules, especially when they assign blame.

Ok, how does one enter the lane circled in red unless you break the rule "Do not changes lanes in a roundabout". The lane must be allowed to be used or it would not be marked as a traffic lane!

rustyp 01-23-2018 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1508055)
Ok, how does one enter the lane circled in red unless you break the rule "Do not changes lanes in a roundabout". The lane must be allowed to be used or it would not be marked as a traffic lane!
Even though I would not switch lanes myself in any roundabout I believe you may have just won this battle. According to the rules right turn or straight thru for the right lane you are correct. Given that there could never be anyone in that lane since the exit is at 270 degrees.

CFrance 01-23-2018 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1508055)
Ok, how does one enter the lane circled in red unless you break the rule "Do not changes lanes in a roundabout". The lane must be allowed to be used or it would not be marked as a traffic lane!
And... how does one exit the inside lane (when going 3/4 around) without changing lanes? You cannot stay in that lane and exit even the visitors side without crossing over the outside lane.

So the rule "Do not change lanes in a roundabout" does not apply to people exiting from the inside lane?


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