Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1240251)

Ah, but the lines are part of the problem. Look at this picture of the Morse/Stillwater RAB. If you follow the broken lines, there is no reason why a driver in the outside lane cannot go 3/4 of the way around. There is also no reason someone can't enter in the outside lane, transition to the inside lane in the RAB, and exit in the outside lane. The lines are broken. It's much better to pay attention to the signs before the RAB that designate how you must proceed depending on which lane you are in entering the RAB.

Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1493321)

A roundabout is nothing but a traffic light replacement. Treat it that way. If turning right enter on the right. If turning left enter on the left. If going straight through use either lane. So simple.

If you were coming south on Morse and hit the light at 466. Would you stay in the right lane to make a left hand turn? That is what your doing if you go 3/4 the way around a circle in the right hand lane.

Would you enter the traffic light intersection on a red light? Would you enter if another car was in the intersection? That is what your doing if you don't yield to both lanes for cars already in the circle.

It's a traffic light replacement, treat it that way and everything works.

Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1494981)

CF. If you look at the roundabout brochure, on both the front page and the back page, it shows a vehicle making a left turn, (going 3/4 around), must start from the left hand lane, stay in the left hand lane and , when exiting, remain in that lane. This means that when you go into a gate after making a left hand lane, you must enter the visitors gate.

Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1494981)

...when you go into a gate after making a left hand lane, you must enter the visitors gate.

Originally Posted by bikeman (Post 1195546)

This SUV tried to run over one of our cyclist the other day. Going north on Buena Vista by the Savannah center round about, our group after stopping to let other cars clear, started north again. That is when this SUV came up from behind us in the left lane and crossed in front of our lane to turn right on El Camino Real just missing the lead rider by inches, and mean inches. Had he not turned his from wheel to the right just a little, he would have been hit. No telling what injuries might have occurred if the contact had happened. Fortunately, the last cyclist had a camera going and we were able to get the license number. We called the Sumter County police, and officer Wills, to report the incident. We were not looking to ticket the driver, but to let him/her know that crossing two lanes at a high rate of speed is jeopardizing the safety, and maybe the life of these cyclist. The officer refused to help even after giving him the license number. I wonder if the same officer would have shown any interest if this SUV had collided with the bicycle? I guess someone has to be injured before this officer would help with the situation. If you know this person, please notify them that what they did was totally wrong, and could have cost someone their life just to make the turn 5 seconds earlier. They never stopped, or even acknowledged any wrong doing. Even after giving the Sumter County officer the license number he refused to do anything telling me that Florida license plates has 6 numbers/letters not 5. I know that vanity plates in Florida can have less than 6. I am not sure why he chose not to pursue this problem, or at least make a call telling them they are now being watched and should be more considerate of cyclist. Here is a picture of the SUV. Please let me know if you know this person. License # SJE IT
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Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1495031)

...We all know the round a bouts are dangerous...

Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1495016)

Simply not true.

And Merry Christmas. :)

Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1495332)

Never change lanes between the 2nd and 3rd exits. The broken white line dividing the inner and outer lanes does not mean you may change lanes while inside the roundabout. The broken white line is there so that vehicles entering the roundabout can enter in either lane, depending on where they are going.

A vehicle entering a roundabout that is going 3/4 around, must be able to enter in the left hand lane, thereby crossing the broken white line. This is the same as if they were at a traffic light and were going to make a left hand turn onto a 4 lane road. Once you enter the road in the left lane, you can change lanes to the right lane. Approximately 30-40% of all drivers make this error by directly entering the right lane. (This information comes from “Professional Driving With Richard” that used to be printed in The Villages Homeowners Association monthly newsletters).

I have sent emails to Mrs. Tutt suggesting that the signs as you enter any 2 lane gate should indicate that the “Visitors” gate should read, “Residents and Visitors”. That is one of the reasons that residents can enter the visitors gate with their gate card.

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1495651)

I bet that if the Developer had to do TV over, they would make all the traffic circles single lane and merge the two lanes to one just before the circle. Traffic flow would suffer but accidents would be avoided with those who can't seem to grasp the concept of "Yield" signage and "ALL traffic in the circle have the right of way".

The Visitor lane is for visitors only and there are reasons why the Gate Guard controls the Visitor gate...It has to do with resident right of way and MMP crossing.

Originally Posted by MorTech (Post 1495651)

I bet that if the Developer had to do TV over, they would make all the traffic circles single lane and merge the two lanes to one just before the circle...

Originally Posted by kappy (Post 1495332)

Never change lanes between the 2nd and 3rd exits. The broken white line dividing the inner and outer lanes does not mean you may change lanes while inside the roundabout. The broken white line is there so that vehicles entering the roundabout can enter in either lane, depending on where they are going.

A vehicle entering a roundabout that is going 3/4 around, must be able to enter in the left hand lane, thereby crossing the broken white line. This is the same as if they were at a traffic light and were going to make a left hand turn onto a 4 lane road. Once you enter the road in the left lane, you can change lanes to the right lane. Approximately 30-40% of all drivers make this error by directly entering the right lane. (This information comes from “Professional Driving With Richard” that used to be printed in The Villages Homeowners Association monthly newsletters).

I have sent emails to Mrs. Tutt suggesting that the signs as you enter any 2 lane gate should indicate that the “Visitors” gate should read, “Residents and Visitors”. That is one of the reasons that residents can enter the visitors gate with their gate card.

Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1495745)

...it is ok to enter through the visitor gate. I do it all the time when I am in the inner lane of the roundabout. Simply stay there and use the left exit lane to the gate. This is the proper and safe thing to do...