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Old 07-20-2018, 12:30 PM
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If I'm in the right lane, and making a 3/4 turn, I'm in the wrong lane.
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If I'm in the left lane, and making a 1/4 turn, I'm in the wrong lane.
Yes, that would be a terrible thing to do, even though we have had it happen to us on several occasions.

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I'm supposed to keep up with the speed of traffic so if there's someone behind me, I worry they'll get mad if I slow down, mad if I'm in the wrong lane, mad if I get disoriented and pull over and stop.
When you become a senior citizen, you will stop worrying about other people being mad at you.

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I just can't deal with that kind of stress when I'm just trying to get across the darned street.
Then don't live in TV. We like our roundabouts.
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:26 PM
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As someone who's only visited TV so far and hasn't yet purchased a home, I have to say these traffic circles are incredibly confusing. I slow down significantly because they disorient me and I get nervous about being stuck in the wrong lane. If I'm in the right lane, and making a 3/4 turn, I'm in the wrong lane. If I'm in the left lane, and making a 1/4 turn, I'm in the wrong lane. But I'm supposed to keep up with the speed of traffic so if there's someone behind me, I worry they'll get mad if I slow down, mad if I'm in the wrong lane, mad if I get disoriented and pull over and stop because I just can't deal with that kind of stress when I'm just trying to get across the darned street.

Plus it's clear these traffic circles are dangerous, which is why there are so many threads here with so many posters saying they're dangerous. Why not ditch the circles and put in normal lanes with stop lights and turn lights, so there's absolutely no confusion whatsoever? You get in line, stop, wait til the light says you can go, then go. And everyone else stops to let you do so.
Please, don't ever, ever do that. You might get hurt. Somebody else might get hurt. Please don't stop in a roundabout. Better to keep going, even if you're in the wrong lane, till you can pull off onto an exit.


People coming round in a roundabout can't see you and might rear-end you if they come upon you stopped. Or it could cause a multiple accident. You would be found at fault for any of that.


Just think of the roundabout as a four lane intersection. If you're going straight, either lane. If you're going right, outside lane. If you're "turning left,"you would be in the left lane at an intersection. That's what cleared it up for me, a description by some clear-minded "teacher" on this forum seven years ago. To whom I am so grateful, although I can't remember his name.
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Old 07-20-2018, 02:23 PM
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as someone who's only visited tv so far and hasn't yet purchased a home, i have to say these traffic circles are incredibly confusing. I slow down significantly because they disorient me and i get nervous about being stuck in the wrong lane. If i'm in the right lane, and making a 3/4 turn, i'm in the wrong lane. If i'm in the left lane, and making a 1/4 turn, i'm in the wrong lane. But i'm supposed to keep up with the speed of traffic so if there's someone behind me, i worry they'll get mad if i slow down, mad if i'm in the wrong lane, mad if i get disoriented and pull over and stop because i just can't deal with that kind of stress when i'm just trying to get across the darned street.

Plus it's clear these traffic circles are dangerous, which is why there are so many threads here with so many posters saying they're dangerous. why not ditch the circles and put in normal lanes with stop lights and turn lights, so there's absolutely no confusion whatsoever? You get in line, stop, wait til the light says you can go, then go. And everyone else stops to let you do so.
no, no, no...………………….!
Oh wait, you said you were just a visitor.....did you read the signs at the entrance to the roundabout? I thought so.
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Old 07-20-2018, 02:36 PM
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Can't wait for National Backwards Day...........January 31, 2019.

Clockwise in the roundabouts.
You laugh, but Sweden, the country that makes Saabs, decided that they should change their left-hand driving to right-hand driving. Their method was: name a date and do it.


"Finally, everything was ready. At 4:50 a.m. on September 3, 1967, as crowds of people gathered to watch, all vehicles on the road were instructed to come to a halt. They were then directed to move carefully from the left side of the road to the right, and wait. At the stroke of 5:00, following a radio countdown, an announcement was made — “Sweden now has right-hand driving” — and traffic was allowed to resume. Time Magazine called the event “a brief but monumental traffic jam.”


Some people think the real reason for this was a car manufacturer was selling so many cars to the US.
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Old 07-20-2018, 04:12 PM
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In seven years I had only seen one time a car exit at the first exit from the left lane of a traffic circle. Yesterday I saw it twice right in front of me. First time I'm on Stillwater eastbound in the left lane getting ready to enter the roundabout at Morse to go north across the bridge. There is a car in front of me and one to the right of me, as I move ahead both cars in front of me exit at the first exit, unbelievable.

Later yesteray I'm on El Camino Real northbound and come to the roundabout at Buena Vista in front The Savannah Center. Again there are two cars, one in the left lane and one in the right lane just ahead of me in the right lane, since I plan to go north on BV. Again, both cars in front of me exit at the first exit northbound on BV, had I been going straight I would of T-boned the car in the left lane or if the car in front of me had been going straight, either one of us would of hit that car in the left lane.

If this wasn't enough, at the Morse roundabout, the really busy one just before 441, I see something I will probably never see again. I'm entering from Paige Place using the right lane to go halfway to El Camino Real. Two cars are in front of me in the outside lane, and the first car comes to a complete stop in the traffic circle. After a couple of seconds the car begins to move and then a car that is to my left in the inside lane which has no one in front of them, speeds around and turns right at the El Camino exit about 5' in front of me. All this happens because this uniformed driver stops in the circle and throws eveything out of sync. The guy on the inside lane probably thought he was totally in the right, but should of seen there was a car stopped and to have used caution in his exit, which he didn't display.
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Old 07-20-2018, 04:33 PM
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no, no, no...………………….!
Oh wait, you said you were just a visitor.....did you read the signs at the entrance to the roundabout? I thought so.
I'm not presently visiting. I've BEEN a visitor. Several years ago, and a couple of years before that. Had a vacation rental each time. We're considering moving there, and have a lifestyle visit coming up in a couple of months. I've mentioned this a few times already.

I don't know what my being a visitor has to do with reading the signs. I don't know what you "thought."
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Old 07-20-2018, 04:44 PM
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I'm looking at the PDF file. At the very first graphic, that says "CAUTION" on the upper right of the graphic, and reminding you not to use the right-hand lane to make a left turn through the roundabout. That's all well and good. But let's call these things what they are, because the whole left and right designation is confusing. There's a north/south/east/west exit. There's an INNER lane, and there's an OUTER lane, and there are ENTRIES, and there are EXITS. So. Using that graphic. I'm coming from the south, heading north. I'm enter via the inner lane, just like it shows in the graphic.

The person coming in from the EASTERN lane, is heading west. He's coming in via the OUTER lane. I enter the circle shortly before he does; but I'm not yet in clear view of him, because I haven't rounded the circle toward the eastern exit yet. We both get to the spot that's right there on the graphic where the two cars collide. Each of us is going "across" the circle; one from south to north, one from east to west. We are each allowed to use our choice of inner or outer lane, according to this graphic. Who has the right of way and who gets stuck paying who's hospital bill?

That's really what I want to know.
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Old 07-20-2018, 05:27 PM
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I'm looking at the PDF file. At the very first graphic, that says "CAUTION" on the upper right of the graphic, and reminding you not to use the right-hand lane to make a left turn through the roundabout. That's all well and good. But let's call these things what they are, because the whole left and right designation is confusing. There's a north/south/east/west exit. There's an INNER lane, and there's an OUTER lane, and there are ENTRIES, and there are EXITS. So. Using that graphic. I'm coming from the south, heading north. I'm enter via the inner lane, just like it shows in the graphic.

The person coming in from the EASTERN lane, is heading west. He's coming in via the OUTER lane. I enter the circle shortly before he does; but I'm not yet in clear view of him, because I haven't rounded the circle toward the eastern exit yet. We both get to the spot that's right there on the graphic where the two cars collide. Each of us is going "across" the circle; one from south to north, one from east to west. We are each allowed to use our choice of inner or outer lane, according to this graphic. Who has the right of way and who gets stuck paying who's hospital bill?

That's really what I want to know.
I’ve never encountered a roundabout in TV where I could not see traffic coming toward me from my left or traffic approaching it to my right. In your scenario, the vehicle entering going east that entered after you and failed to yield to anyone in either lane is at fault. This is one of the more common errors I see. Some drivers think that it is OK to enter into the outside lane if the only vehicle in the roundabout is in the inner lane. I think this is a result of those that had experience with roundabouts in other states think they can apply the same rules here. Not necessarily true.
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Old 07-20-2018, 06:52 PM
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If I'm in the right lane, and making a 3/4 turn, I'm in the wrong lane.

It can be confusing as in this example. Is it better to take the blue path or red path to go east on 44A? Note that the left lane is marked as only turning left yet I want to continue straight.
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:29 PM
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If I'm in the right lane, and making a 3/4 turn, I'm in the wrong lane.

It can be confusing as in this example. Is it better to take the blue path or red path to go east on 44A? Note that the left lane is marked as only turning left yet I want to continue straight.
This is exactly why the "turn left" thing is pointless and meaningless. It's a circle. There is no left and right. When you get to the point where you want to exit, you will be turning RIGHT. You will never actually be taking a left, anywhere. It is a one-way circle, around to the right (counter-clockwise), and exiting to the right. The only "left" that happens, is when you enter the circle. The circle itself will always be on the left of the lane that enters the circle.

This is one of the main reasons why the whole thing is confusing. Words matter.
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